Italy bans halal slaughter

[MultaniGuy]

Aoa

I wonder how the world would change once the pretentions of tolerance and inclusiveness are removed. Once the western nations, that have gained a lot of cultural aoft power over decades, start to lose the 'moral high ground'.

I wonder how things would affect the leaderships in non-western countries who currently see the west as a good retirement places, how would they adapt to a world where exile seems like a bad thing again?

Who'd have thought the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions would lead to the refugee crisis. Which would play a large part in this new wave of xenophobia and the rise of demagogues. The Brexit and Trump. This whole economic conflict with China. The erosion of western hegemony and control over the world.

Let's see what these things lead to further down the road... interesting and changing times...


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Bhai, all this nonsense of being secular, liberal, and inclusive is all nonsense.

Look at Trump's America, Look at Modi's India. They are hypocrites of the highest order.

 

[fitpOsitive]

The Italian populist League party, led by firebrand Matteo Salvini, has introduced legislation that would ban ritual halal slaughter, arguing that animals should be respected and protected from suffering.
The new laws will end loopholes currently in place in the country’s animal welfare legislation that allows Muslims exemptions for ritual halal slaughter, Il Giornale reports.

Should the new laws, which will also force producers to properly label all halal and ritually slaughtered products, pass and come into effect it would see Italy join a host of other European countries such as Poland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Lithuania, Belgium, and Switzerland which have also either restricted or banned religious slaughter.

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/10/04/italian-populist-league-introduce-ban-halal-slaughter/

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You cant imagine how good it feels. When Salvini became interior minister, he said: You can´t imagine what will be possible!"

And he does evrything the italian people want.

It feels so good to see our great nations dignity to be restored.

FORZA ITALIA!

And what good it will bring to Italian people?

 

[Avicenna]

How is it possibe to humanly kill an animal?
Killing with humanity?

I would agree with you. No matter what the methodology the end result is the animal is dead.

I love animals. I hate to see them harmed or killed. But I also love steak.

Something has to give. I don't wanna give up steaks. So Halal it must be.

 

[zip]

How do they measure the suffering of the animal? Are the Western methods of killing animals in slaughterhouses less painful?

If the Italians would be serious about animal suffering they wouldn't be eating any meat.

This has nothing to do with animal suffering.

If there is no option other than cutting your throat or cutting your head when you are not aware of it which death will you prefer ? That should answer your question..

 

[Tiberius]

And what good it will bring to Italian people?

Our country, our rules

 

[Avicenna]

Our country, our rules

Remember that in Saudi brah.

 

[Roybot]

Bhai, all this nonsense of being secular, liberal, and inclusive is all nonsense.

Look at Trump's America, Look at Modi's India. They are hypocrites of the highest order.

Why don't you look at Muslim countries?

 

[maximuswarrior]

If there is no option other than cutting your throat or cutting your head when you are not aware of it which death will you prefer ? That should answer your question..

How about I stun you electrically or take you out with a shotgun instead? Will you prefer that?

There is no humane way of slaughtering an animal.

At least when the knife is used the blood flows which is a source of illness.

Don't want an animal to suffer? Stop eating meat. Don't give us baloney lectures on suffering.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Why don't you look at Muslim countries?

We Pakistanis don't claim to be secular country. thats the difference.

But India and USA does.

 

[Tiberius]

Remember that in Saudi brah.

I always act according the laws of the country i reside.

 

[Roybot]

We Pakistanis don't claim to be secular country. thats the difference.

And that is something to be proud of? I hear this argument from Muslims all the time.

If some countries claim to be secular, it is according to their own choice and volition. If they decide to be less secular and less open it is again their choice and volition. Muslims who are not secular or liberal should be the last people to question these countries about their secular credentials.

 

[maximuswarrior]

I always act according the laws of the country i reside.

Just like you are behaving on this forum...

 

[Azadkashmir]

And that is something to be proud of? I hear this argument from Muslims all the time.

If some countries claim to be secular, it is according to their own choice and volition. If they decide to be less secular and less open it is again their choice and volition. Muslims who are not secular or liberal should be the last people to question these countries about their secular credentials.

there is no such as muslim country sorry but after colonisation they are following western ways including borrowing from banks on interest.

there is no such as muslim country sorry but after colonisation they are following western ways including borrowing from banks on interest.

 

[IbnAbdullah]

Aoa

Bhai, all this nonsense of being secular, liberal, and inclusive is all nonsense.

Look at Trump's America, Look at Modi's India. They are hypocrites of the highest order.

That it has always been. However, in the past they've managed to really convince a large segment of mot only their own but the populations of the rest of the world as well of these things.

With the recent events happening around the world, it would be harder and harder for them to maintain the cultural power they had amased.

I remember there was this one guy in my class and he'd always go on and on about how the partition was a mistake. Then the Gujrat riots happened. He never argued about that again.

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[MultaniGuy]

And that is something to be proud of? I hear this argument from Muslims all the time.

If some countries claim to be secular, it is according to their own choice and volition. If they decide to be less secular and less open it is again their choice and volition. Muslims who are not secular or liberal should be the last people to question these countries about their secular credentials.

No, you are wrong. You go according to your claim. We go according to our ideology. If you disagree with it, fine. That is your opinion.

We are saying that India should go according to it's claim. Why don't you allow beef slaughtering. why the hypocrisy?

there is no such as muslim country sorry but after colonisation they are following western ways including borrowing from banks on interest.

You are correct, in that sense that there is no true Islamic country per se in this day and age.