It Will Remain 200-million Population in China 100 Years Later.

[qamar1990]

It would be a strain on the already depleting number non-renewable resources, as consumption increases. Solution is to reduce population strain, and or finding an alternative source of energy. The only viable option is colonization of the heavens.

if 90 percent of the population lives in cities then we can manage quite easily…
your have to take into account how much stuff is being wasted by the first world….

 

[Aepsilons]

nope…. urbanization is the best solution…

There are plenty of negative effects of urbanization, my friend.

 

[qamar1990]

There are plenty of negative effects of urbanization, my friend.

for example????

 

[SvenSvensonov]

The sci-fi lover in me can't help but see the next foray of humanity is in space.

For one, the colonization of Mars is the first step in this galactic colonization program:

Mission - Mars One

I remain optimistic about the future prospects for human travel to Mars, and would like to be one to go there, but the prospects are still worryingly difficult at the moment. It's a future project. I only hope I am still around to see this future fulfilled.

All Dressed Up For Mars and Nowhere to Go — Matter — Medium - an interesting article on the work that still needs to be done, and the difficulty facing Mars travelers.

 

[Aepsilons]

for example????

1) Increased population leads to more waste, garbage and byproducts.
2) Natural habitats destroyed for housing purposes
3) Poor waste management causes the spread of disease and pollution
4) Food demand increases and more land needs to be cleared for food production
5) High density of people can lead to conflicts and the quick spread of health problems

 

[qamar1990]

There are plenty of negative effects of urbanization, my friend.

right now around 54 percent of the people live in urban areas… if it increases to 90 percent and the population caps at around 8.5 billion or even 9 we will be doing just fine…

 

[Aepsilons]

right now around 54 percent of the people live in urban areas… if it increases to 90 percent and the population caps at around 8.5 billion or even 9 we will be doing just fine…

If 90 percent of people move into urban areas, who and how do you expect to feed this group? Producers , agricultural wings are needed to support this number, else there will be a population crisis , and relative extinction crisis afterwards. Have you read into Malthus 's Theory of human population growth as assymetrical and the resources wherein we consume being linear ? I recommend you read into his works in ecology.

 

[qamar1990]

1) Increased population leads to more waste, garbage and byproducts.

yes but we could recycle…. make it mandatory…
just so you we are discussing urbanizing the population now….

2) Natural habitats destroyed for housing purposes

with urbanization it will be more people living in smaller areas…. bigger buildings ect…

3) Poor waste management causes the spread of disease and pollution

thats all because of incompetence of city planners… all of it can be managed properly without an issue

4) Food demand increases and more land needs to be cleared for food production

hence urbanization… it will clear up millions of acres of land…

5) High density of people can lead to conflicts and the quick spread of health problems

true but once again with proper planning all can be avoided…[/quote]

 

[qamar1990]

If 90 percent of people move into urban areas, who and how do you expect to feed this group? Producers , agricultural wings are needed to support this number, else there will be a population crisis , and relative extinction crisis afterwards. Have you read into Malthus 's Theory of human population growth as assymetrical and the resources wherein we consume being linear ? I recommend you read into his works in ecology.

10 percent will be more then enough and with the machinery available these days it takes less and less people every year to do the farm work… I'm from a farming family that grows all kinds of crops during wheat harvest season in my child hood the whole town used to help each other now we just rent a machine that does everything for us… just one person operates it.

 

[Hashshāshīn]

Earth is too small to afford a population of 7 billion. For a sustainable future, population has to be around 2-3 billion in the next century or so.

Get rid of yourself, then.

 

[janon]

Correct, and who's to say that we would not have colonized distant plants in say 200 years.

Given, people in the 19th century would have never thought it possible the discoveries we've acquired in just the past 40 years.

There is no way that is happening. In 200 years, I would be very surprised if we could colonize Antartica, and make it liveable. And compared to any other planet, Antartica is a paradise for humans, and should be a lot easier to colonize.

 

[Aepsilons]

There is no way that is happening. In 200 years, I would be very surprised if we could colonize Antartica, and make it liveable. And compared to any other planet, Antartica is a paradise for humans, and should be a lot easier to colonize.

Can you expand on how you think we can colonize Africa and Antarctica ?

 

[janon]

Can you expand on how you think we can colonize Africa and Antarctica ?

Africa? There are already humans living there, in fact humanity first evolved somewhere near Tanzania.

Only the artic regions, especially Antartica, has not been colonized. Suppose we were to start a permanent settlement there, for large number of people. That place has no flora or fauna, so food would have to be produced elsewhere. Plants cannot grow there, animals cannot live there. What about fuel to produce energy? I suppose we could start a nuclear plant for electricity. If we are in another planet, assuming that we cannot have Uranium mines there, that would also have to come from earth. That makes it prohibitively expensive.

Now remember than Antartica has air and oxygen - other planets don't. Is there any way to make oxygen for all humans? I don't think so, especially on a foreign planet. What about the temperature? Antartica is too cold for humans to live - distant planets are thousands of times colder. The inner planets are thousands of times hotter than the hottest spot on earth.

We have overpopulated all other continents, but not Antartica, and there is a very good reason for that. We evolved only to survive in a certain small range of temperatures, and millions of other external conditions. If life evolved on Mars, they would have been adapted to that environment. But it didn't - life only evolved on earth, at least within this galaxy.

That is why when anybody suggests colonization of other planets, I remind them to think about ways to colonize Antartica first. Then you will realize why it is impossible.

 

[applesauce]

everything depends on energy.

if we had cheap, infinite energy, technically earth can sustain many, many ten of billions

 

[WAR-rior]

It would be a strain on the already depleting number non-renewable resources, as consumption increases. Solution is to reduce population strain, and or finding an alternative source of energy. The only viable option is colonization of the heavens.

Too early to do that. Earth still has umpteen space available to accommodate 10 billion people. Its just we need to find appropriate sources of energy. Biodegradable options have to be eradicated.

I suggest Biomass, Wind and Solar. Coz these will never face shortage of raw materials and hence the energy.