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It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell

Chinese have lot of disputes all around them like in the East sea, Taiwan, SCS, Arunachal pradesh etc...etc...

Chinese will not sit idle but try to gain influence in S.Asia undermining India.

India do have some cards in its hand to counter the moves of Chinese, one of them is Japanese. Japan is more than willing to partner India to negate Chinese influence and India and Japan are complementary and ideal partners on the economic front.

In Srilanka India and Japan are working together, for Japan is the number one investor in Srilanka only recently overtaken by China. But India and Japan are working together off late in executing power projects, Srilankan auto mobile sector etc...etc..

Regarding Bangladesh India is working to solve the issues related to water deals and Border incidents. India and Japan are executing a connectivity project which will connect ASEAN with India. I think Bangladesh will also be roped in.

Regarding Bangladeshi public anger against India, India will work on that.

Bhutan has some territory disputes with China and they are fully dependent on India. India is executing power projects in Bhutan and also Indian army is present there.

Nepal has been drifting because of Chinese influence , there are some options with India regarding this

1) Have a defense co operation and security pact with Nepal and Bhutan.

2) Make those two countries as a part of Indian Union on some conditions ... like England and Scotland.

In the mean time India has to speed up the economic and military reforms.
The problem for India is its own behavior in its own region. That's why the countries bordering India like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal have better relations with China then with India. Its called balancing. India is pretty isolated in its own region. And Japan is pretty isolated too in East Asia. Its not just China they have problems with but also South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan and Russia. All of them with the exception of North Korea are the result of territorial disputes. Its the weakness of both India and Japan that they have to reach out so far from their own regions to find support.

2) Make those two countries as a part of Indian Union on some conditions ... like England and Scotland.

This is the sort of naked India imperialistic ambitions that is what's driving India's neighbours to China.
 
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The problem for India is its own behavior in its own region. That's why the countries bordering India like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal have better relations with China then with India. Its called balancing. India is pretty isolated in its own region. And Japan is pretty isolated too in East Asia. Its not just China they have problems with but also South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan and Russia. All of them with the exception of North Korea are the result of territorial disputes. Its the weakness of both India and Japan that they have to reach out so far from their own regions to find support.

The same quote applies to China as well countries around china from South Korea to Vietnam are looking towards USA.

In South Asia except Pakistan no country sees India as a threat and these countries do want to develop one reason to look towards China.

Japan is a small country with huge currency reserves and has latest technology. India has huge human resources and strategically located vis.a-vis China overlooking Chinese trade routes in IOR. Both these nations sandwich China.

So these two nations are ideal partners to protect themselves.

This is the sort of naked India imperialistic ambitions that is what's driving India's neighbours to China.

We are not Chinese to annex Tibet and vie for others territories. India has its own way and that way is acceptable to most of them.
 
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The same quote applies to China as well countries around china from South Korea to Vietnam are looking towards USA.

In South Asia except Pakistan no country sees India as a threat and these countries do want to develop one reason to look towards China.

Japan is a small country with huge currency reserves and has latest technology. India has huge human resources and strategically located vis.a-vis China overlooking Chinese trade routes in IOR. Both these nations sandwich China.

So these two nations are ideal partners to protect themselves.

Its true that smaller nations in Asia are balancing against their larger neighbours that goes for China as well as India. So far Indian and Japanese economic cooperation have been very limited. India lacking a firm education system has very little human resources for the size of its population. That limits how much India and Japan is able to cooperate at an economic if not strategic level to contain China.

We are not Chinese to annex Tibet and vie for others territories. India has its own way and that way is acceptable to most of them.
Did you forgot Sikkim ?
 
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Its true that smaller nations in Asia are balancing against their larger neighbours that goes for China as well as India. So far Indian and Japanese economic cooperation have been very limited. India lacking a firm education system has very little human resources for the size of its population. That limits how much India and Japan is able to cooperate at an economic if not strategic level to contain China.

Please check out the stats Dude !!
we are the largest pool of doctors, Engineers, MBA's etc...etc.....

Did you forgot Sikkim ?

Yes Sikkim offered to Join India .... that is how democracies work .... based on people's opinion.
 
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Indians do have a habit of overestimating their power. Even now some Indians here try to think their military is a match for China.

They should accept their weakness compared to China and then Asia will be a more prosperous place.
 
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An other slap on the face of indians.
 
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Please check out the stats Dude !!
we are the largest pool of doctors, Engineers, MBA's etc...etc.....

I highly doubt it. Do you have any sources for that claim ?

Yes Sikkim offered to Join India .... that is how democracies work .... based on people's opinion.
After the Indian army marched into Sikkim and the referendum was rigged. India was never able to answer rigging allegations.
 
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I highly doubt it. Do you have any sources for that claim ?

please go through the below link

Statistics on Indian Higher Education 2012-2013 |DrEducation: International Higher Education Blog


After the Indian army marched into Sikkim and the referendum was rigged. India was never able to answer rigging allegations.

There will be always an opposition and opposite voices in democratic way. Only thing that will be highlighted is whether majority voted in favor or not.
 
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It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell - The Times of India

It wasn't China, but Nehru who declared 1962 war: Australian journalist Neville Maxwell

Two weeks ago, the Australian journalist Neville Maxwell finally made part of the Henderson Brooks report public, by putting it up on his blog. The report was an internal Indian Army enquiry into its rout in the 1962 war with China — Maxwell was the New Delhi correspondent for The Times, London, at the time — but in the 51 years since the report was written up by Lt Gen Henderson Brooks and Brig PS Bhagat, successive Indian governments have refused to make it public. Only two copies of the report were thought to be in existence, although there was never any doubt that Maxwell had had access to the report for his 1970 book India's China War quoted extensively from it. In his first interview to the Indian media since he made the report public, the now 88-year-old Maxwell tells Parakram Rautela that he had been trying to make the report public for years but that nobody would publish it. He adds that he was only able to get hold of Volume I of the report, minus 45 pages, and that he never laid eyes on Volume II. And of course he still blames Nehru for the war, not the Chinese. Excerpts:

Q: You suggest India's official account of the cause of the 1962 border war is false. What, in your view, is the truth?

NM: By September 1962 the Indian "forward policy" of trying to force the Chinese out of territory India claimed had built up great tension in the Western (Ladakh) sector of the border, with the Chinese army just blocking it. Then the Nehru government applied the forward policy to the McMahon Line eastern sector and when the Chinese blocked that too India in effect declared war with Nehru's announcement on October 11 that the Army had been ordered to "free our territory", which meant to attack the Chinese and drive them back. As General Niranjan Prasad, commander of 4 Division, wrote later: "We at the front knew that since Nehru had said he was going to attack, the Chinese were certainly not going to wait to be attacked" — and of course they didn't. That's how the war began. The Chinese attack was both reactive, in that General Kaul had begun the Indian assault on October 10, and pre-emptive because after that failure the Indian drive had been suspended to build up strength for a resumed attack.

Q: What in your opinion were the policies, on both sides, that brought about the basic quarrel over the border?

NM: As far as the McMahon Line was concerned India inherited the dispute with China, which the British had created in the mid-1930s by seizing the Tibetan territory they re-named NEFA. The PRC government was prepared to accept that border alignment but insisted that it be re-negotiated, that is put through the usual diplomatic process, to wipe out its imperialist origins. Nehru refused, using London's false claim that the Simla Conference had already legitimised the McMahon Line to back up that refusal — that was his Himalayan blunder. Then in 1954 he compounded that mistake by laying cartographic claim to a swathe of territory in the north-west, the Aksai Chin, a claim which was beyond anything the British had ever claimed and on an area which Chinese governments had treated as their own for at least a hundred years. To make matters worse, he ruled that there should be no negotiation over that claim either! So Indian policy had created a border dispute and also ruled out the only way it could peacefully be settled, through diplomatic negotiation.

Q: Whatever the truth about the origins of the war, it's the effect on India-China relations and the deadlock since then that is important now... And there was the worry that bringing up all the bitterness of that bloody conflict may only make matters worse?

NM: Certainly not, the opposite is true I think. If the Henderson Brooks Report is read closely in India (and it's not easy reading!) people will see that political favouritism put the Army under incompetent leadership which blindly followed the Nehru government's provocative policy. It shows that all the way, from formulation to implementation of the Forward Policy, that policy was resisted by the pucca soldiers because they saw it must end in a conflict India could only lose, but the orders came from the top and in the end had to be obeyed... the authors of the report ruefully quote the poem, "theirs not to reason why... but to do or die".

Q: What made you publish the report now, and why were you selective about what you published?

NM: There's a significant gap in what I published, about 45 pages, otherwise I published all I have, which is Volume One of the Report's two volumes. The gap is there only because the time I had to copy it was limited, and when I saw I wouldn't have time to copy it all I chose to leave out a chunk in the middle rather than the end of it. As for the timing, I'd been trying to make it public for years but thought if I did it myself there'd just be attacks on me rather than concentration on the Report's contents, and to some extent that what's happening now. So a couple of years ago I made the text available to several major Indian papers on condition they didn't disclose their source, but none of them would publish it, so by this time I had to conclude that if I didn't do it myself it might never see the light of day. Now it's done without any harm whatever to national security let's hope the Indian government, this one or the next, will quickly publish both volumes of the Henderson Brooks Report without any gaps or editing.

Q: All right, but don't you see you may have made matters worse by arousing all this heated discussion just before a general election?

NM: Honestly, the elections never crossed my mind as bearing on my decision, I don't follow Indian politics closely nowadays. And as for making matters worse, absolutely not, I see the opposite as being true. The tragic irony in all this is that settlement would be easy and the way to settlement has always been open! All that is required is that the Indian government, any Indian government, reverses the Nehru refusal to negotiate. And it's possible that under the guise of just "talking", a secret process of negotiation has in fact been going on and there are signs that it may have reached agreement on basics. If so the Indian public is more likely to welcome that outcome because the myth of "Chinese aggression" has been exposed again, as the Henderson Brooks report does. I say "again" because all this, the historical and diplomatic background and what the Henderson Brooks report tells about the debacle, was exposed long ago in my 1970 book India's China War, and a revised edition of that has just come out in Delhi.
:lol: NEHRU TROLLED BADLY .....
 
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@Aeronaut, @Developereo, as we've said all along... it was India who started this war.

Though no doubt this internal Army report will remain "classified", because it directly contradicts the Indian narrative of a "poor defenceless Nehru who was back stabbed by the evil Chinese".

In truth, and as the facts show, it was the Chinese side who offered more than our fair share of concessions. Some might even have called Zhou Enlai's offers of a territorial swap to be treasonous, but these overly-generous offers were nevertheless rejected by Nehru, who refused to do any sort of compromise.

In fact, we even took good care of the Indian prisoners we captured, we fed them plenty of food and even polished their rifles, despite China at that time not having enough food for our own people, being in the middle of the worst famine in our history (the Great leap forward).

We were the ones calling for an end to the war, eventually having to declare a unilateral ceasefire, and we voluntarily moved back to our previous positions despite an overwhelming victory in the field.

I am one of the biggest critics of the early years of the PRC governance, but in this issue we had no choice but to respond to the war that Nehru imposed on us.
If what you've said is true, you earned my respect. Idiot nehru. :hitwall:
 
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One day Indians would have to wake up an accept historic facts that their govt has hidden from them. Indian citizen has been lied to that they are a 'living embodiment of Gandhi' and have never commited aggression.

As the time goes by and Indian textbook lies break down one by one, Indians would have to face the 'real' history of their aggression towards its neighbors.

* The myth of 'Tribal invasion' it fabricated to invade the Muslim land of Kashir.

* The 1948 'Police action' in the state of Hyderabad resuling in the butchery of tens of thousands of Muslims followed by 'unification' with India.

* Lal Bahadur Shashtri's annexation of Kashmir in 1964 which was a declaration of war finally leading to war in 1965.

* Oxford scholar Sharmila Bose debunked Indian lies about the war of 1971. India had been training the insurgents and creating chaos for over a decade before the war took place. India presents itself as a 'saviour' of Bangladesh now. The fact is that it invaded its neighbor during a domestic conflict.

* Indians would also need to admit that they burned Sri Lanks for 20 years, hoping to see it collapse and 'join mother India'.

* The truth about the Indian aggression against China has also come out in a big way.

Once a concerned Indian citizen is ready to face the truth it would understand the reason why India's neighbors 'love' it so much.

You forgot the forced annexation of Sikkim (25 years after SIKKIM-NepaliTimes).
 
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There is no manipulation of history in India, regarding 1962 those reports are already made public and nothing new in the latest revelation.

Except some character assassination of Nehru ..... may be election motivated stuff.

You think there is "nothing new" in this report?

And you knew India started the war with the Forward Policy all along?

So why is it that Indians constantly say that "China attacked India for no reason"? Do they just parrot the same line that the ruling Nehru-Gandhi dynasty taught them, even though they know it is false?
 
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You think there is "nothing new" in this report?

And you knew India started the war with the Forward Policy all along?

So why is it that Indians constantly say that "China attacked India for no reason"? Do they just parrot the same line that the ruling Nehru-Gandhi dynasty taught them, even though they know it is false?

The border lines are not clearly drawn and even now the border is not marked clearly, chinese patrol some areas claiming those regions as theirs and Indians will also do the same.

The truth is India tried to set up some posts at Indo - Tibet border which are strategically positioned and the borders can be well defended from there. Chinese raised some concerns and this lead to debacle.

The report is not completely accurate nor it is completely fair to accuse Nehru.
 
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