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It was a staged, phony coup to make Erdogan Sultan of Turkey

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After the fateful Friday night of the coup-makers, Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdogan is in charge of the affairs of his country again. When the ill-planned and poorly executed coup d'état was underway, the president was fortunate to be able to communicate with his people through FaceTime, an iPhone-specific smartphone application, from Mediterranean Sea coastal resort where he was spending his holidays. He urged his followers to resist the coup and rally in his favor on the roads to stop the coup. The people responded enthusiastically and furiously with the result that the coup-makers had to surrender or flee.

Why the attempted coup failed in the first instance and was it the people alone who resisted the armed coup through their unwavering faith in democracy as the best political system their country needed? That the coup was “unprofessional” in both planning and operation was on full display. Such “phony” coups are meant to fail in the end.

There are certain reasons being given for the failure of the coup-makers, one of them being unwavering support the people displayed for the president and the system he is presiding over. The other reason that is being given is the stability and prosperity brought by Erdogan and the quality of service delivered to people that endeared him in the eyes of his people. While there are no questions about the economic turnaround brought in by Erdogan, his popularity was progressively eroding due to national security and foreign policy misadventures and also the repressive policies to gag all voices pointing out his failures and allegations of corruption leveled against his family and friends and in particular, his son Bilal Erdogan.

Istanbul is his home-base from where Erdogan draws his political strength but it was the same city which erupted in massive protests against him in June 2013 over his plans to alter the face of city’s legendary Taksim Square. People blamed him for his iron-fisted repressive policies and doubted his credentials as a democrat. He was accused of ruling Turkey as a tyrant who wanted to push Turkey back to Caliphate era with unlimited powers in the hands of one person.

Erdogan always blamed Fethulla Gulen, an ally-turned-opponent for troubles against his government. Gulen is a preacher having significant influence in Turkey. He is currently living in the US off multiple businesses including a network of schools and think tanks. He is a considerable following in Turkey’s key institutions like military and judiciary. First thing that Erdogan did after resuming and tightening his control on Saturday morning was to arrest 3000 military men and more than 2700 members of judiciary suspected of having links with Gulen.

Erdogan has been in the process of wresting back the powers from Turkey’s military that have always wielded influence over the affairs of the state and had assumed the role of guardians of the system established by Ataturk, the Father of the Nation post-Caliphate. Erdogan established his authority by initially punishing senior generals accused of coup-making in the past. This failed coup, which is being blamed on the armed forces, will provide Erdogan the needed opportunity to tighten his control over the military.

Erdogan has had plans to rewrite country’s constitution but has not been able to do that so far. According to Foreign Policy, if the Turkish president views his survival as a mandate to assert greater control over the country, he’ll likely start with his long-running plan to rewrite the constitution to create an executive presidency that will give him greater power at the expense of the legislature and the prime minister.

It is now written on the wall that Erdogan will swiftly move to further tighten his iron grip over the country, further gag the media and dissenting voices and clear the way for absolute power in his hands. The failed coup will strengthen the hands of president Erdogan to realize his dreams of becoming the all-powerful Sultan of Turkey.

Does all this prove the assumption that it was a phony coup?

https://passivevoices.wordpress.com...-sole-beneficiary-of-a-failed-coup-in-turkey/
 
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I don't tend to believe conspiracy theories like this but the coup was so shambolic it's hard to believe they seriously thought they could take over.
 
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Yeah definitely true, now we just wait for the 'phony' actors to get 'real' prison sentences. The coup guys love Erdogan so much they going to go prison/gallows for him.
Disappointment has hurt their puny brains so much that they have started concocting bizarre theories to find some solace:lol:. If those rebels had succeeded then they would have been all "Turkish people want secularism" Turkish people hated Erdogan", but now since their hopes have been dashed they are all "It was all fake" :cheesy:
 
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I don't tend to believe conspiracy theories like this but the coup was so shambolic it's hard to believe they seriously thought they could take over.

I don't think it was as shambolic as it's been made out but they failed a few key objectives and misjudged some factors which escalated to being a shambles.

- they failed to capture/kill Erdogan which was the key
- they failed to take out the internet
- they misjudged the response of the rest of the army (capturing the Chief of Staff was not enough to lead a mutiny)
- they misjudged the response from the Turkish people who failed to follow curfew
- they failed to respond with lethal force to quell the crowds (the nail in the coffin)

I thought it was extremely reckless of Erdogan to call for the people to take to the streets but luckily the conspirators didn't have the courage to shoot their own people. Which is a positive.
 
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I don't think it was as shambolic as it's been made out but they failed a few key objectives and misjudged some factors which escalated to being a shambles.

- they failed to capture/kill Erdogan which was the key
- they failed to take out the internet
- they misjudged the response of the rest of the army (capturing the Chief of Staff was not enough to lead a mutiny)
- they misjudged the response from the Turkish people who failed to follow curfew
- they failed to respond with lethal force to quell the crowds (the nail in the coffin)

I thought it was extremely reckless of Erdogan to call for the people to take to the streets but luckily the conspirators didn't have the courage to shoot their own people. Which is a positive.

Sun Tzu - Only start a battle if you know you can win.

The coup plotters started the battle when they were at a DISADVANTAGE which is incredibly reckless.

It seems they were forced to do it out of desperation, since Erdogan already made it clear he was going to (in a matter of weeks) crack down on the Gulen supporters in the military.

Erdogan wins big time here. He forced them to move when they knew they couldn't win, so of course the coup plotters lost.
 
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So what about all those killed? Are they part of the act as well? :undecided:

There was no conspiracy, the coup plotters were forced to move when they were at a disadvantage because Erdogan made it clear that there was going to be an *imminent* crack down on them.

The coup plotters did it out of desperation when they were at a disadvantaged position, so of course they lost. No conspiracy.... just a desperate and failed move from the coup plotters.
 
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And the US army's chief of staff, saying in the first hours of the coup, It is Erdogan who has brought up this against himself.!!!
Also, some zionist American/Usraeli journalist saying that if he has to resort to contacting the people through FaceTime, it means it is over for him!!!
 
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And the US army's chief of staff, saying in the first hours of the coup, It is Erdogan who has brought up this against himself.!!!

??? I don't see any quotes from Gen Milley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_of_Staff_of_the_United_States_Army


Michael Maloof had an interview on RT where he said something like that...but he is not a government employee nor was he ever chief of staff.

In fact he had his security clearance revoked in 2003

When RT sticks somebody in front of the camera don't assume they give the correct credentials.
 
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Most involved in coup are low rank officer. I doubt they are stupid enough to carry out such feat.
 
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??? I don't see any quotes from Gen Milley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_of_Staff_of_the_United_States_Army


Michael Maloof had an interview on RT where he said something like that...but he is not a government employee nor was he ever chief of staff.

In fact he had his security clearance revoked in 2003
There were too many comments, by too many people , but if you search you'll find it..not sure if its the army's chief of staff or another very high ranking US military chief..
 
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