It is said 1/4 OpenAI researchers are ethnic Chinese

[kankan326]

How Americans feel? Happy or worried?

 

[epebble]

How Americans feel? Happy or worried?

Not at all worried. As long as they are good Americans, ethnicity does not matter. Both Microsoft and Google (and dozens of other tech companies) have Asian American CEOs. BTW, TSMC is run by ethnic Chinese. American companies are totally satisfied working with them. In fact, they are even building a factory in Arizona.

 

[kankan326]

Not at all worried. As long as they are good Americans, ethnicity does not matter. Both Microsoft and Google (and dozens of other tech companies) have Asian American CEOs. BTW, TSMC is run by ethnic Chinese. American companies are totally satisfied working with them. In fact, they are even building a factory in Arizona.

But I heard US will ban Chinese students learning STEM in US.

 

[epebble]

But I heard US will ban Chinese students learning STEM in US.

Not true. The ban is only for PRC students connected with PRC military. Other ethnic Chinese have no problem.

 

[kankan326]

Not true. The ban is only for PRC students connected with PRC military. Other ethnic Chinese have no problem.

Don't be so sure. This dude will do more work for the ban. What I'm saying is, China has full potential to surpass US as long as it has enough money to invest in AI

 

[epebble]

Don't be so sure. This dude will do more work for the ban. What I'm saying is, China has full potential to surpass US as long as it has enough money to invest in AI

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In our country, that 'dude' is just one man. Any such ban has to pass Congress, agreed by Biden and should not be rejected by courts. Our government is complicated. One dude can't do whatever he feels like. We had a dude called Trump. He wanted to do a lot of crazy stuff. Courts said no. He just sulked. He didn't send any judges for reeducation camps in Alaska.

 

[kankan326]

In our country, that 'dude' is just one man. Any such ban has to pass Congress, agreed by Biden and should not be rejected by courts. Our government is complicated. One dude can't do whatever he feels like. We had a dude called Trump. He wanted to do a lot of crazy stuff. Courts said no. He just sulked. He didn't send any judges for reeducation camps in Alaska.

Your country has done many stupid things already.

 

[epebble]

Your country has done many stupid things already.

That I will totally agree. But Most countries do a lot of stupid things.

 

[Song Hong]

Below are results from 640 openAI linkedin profile. Only 13 from China. About 16 other Chinese sounding names from MIT, Stanford. Assuming 200 are technical, just 15% of OpenAI technical guys are ethnic Chinese.

 

[kankan326]

Below are results from 640 openAI linkedin profile. Only 13 from China. About 16 other Chinese sounding names from MIT, Stanford. Assuming 200 are technical, just 15% of OpenAI technical guys are ethnic Chinese.

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Research team is small. Dozens of people

 

[Song Hong]

Research team is small. Dozens of people

I bet you never join big tech technical team. It is not just R&D. You got

1. Algo (matlab, pytorch...etc)
2. system
3. software front and back end
4. software c/c++
5. tech support

For big system such as ChatGPT3, they could have at least 50 algo (most important guy)

 

[kankan326]

I bet you never join big tech technical team. It is not just R&D. You got

1. Algo (matlab, pytorch...etc)
2. system
3. software front and back end
4. software c/c++
5. tech support

For big system such as ChatGPT3, they could have at least 50 algo (most important guy)

I mean the core researchers. You are right. I never worked in big tech company.

 

[Cheepek]

Man, the Chinese are so pathetic lol

 

[Song Hong]

Man, the Chinese are so pathetic lol

The GPT models are published online. The secret is revealed.

And why OpenAI does it so well. It is because Microsoft funded their R&D with their cloud infra -- likely billions of dollars.

I guess China is capable of this. So long GoC make up her mind and ask Huawei or Alicloud to fund a GPT startup, soon China will have chatGPT.

 

[kankan326]

the chinks were bragging up and down that they were world leaders in AI. OpenAI put them to shame. Now the same chinks are trying to stay afloat by claiming OpenAI just because a FEW chinese work there

I don't think OpenAI put us to shame. Chinese high tech companies don't have deep pocket compared to US companies. Less money means less investment. The output is reasonable. Another reason is US chip sanction did have negative effect on China' AI development because of lack of high performance chips. We are still waiting for breakthrough in lithography