Israel’s Bangladeshi ‘ambassador’ converting to Judaism

[Arthur]

It's not at all clear to me that a "transiting third country" is legally bound to forbid the passport holder from passing through, or to report the matter to Bangladeshi authorities, either.

No one is bound to legally. But also the passport don't hold any legal grounds in case of Israel.

Countries are discouraged by Bangladeshi Gov. to let someone use it's passport to enter Israel. Simply put as BD requests every nation under international law to let a Bangladeshi who got a visa or proper authorizations to enter their country, BD extends a legal guarantee under it's sovereign rights to that country under international laws. Simply put BD takes all the legal and other responsibilities of that person.

But Bangladesh doesn't extend that legal guarantee towards Israel. So the countries involved fell discouraged to let BD people use their ports to travel Israel. As BD might refuse any responsibility, saying we warned you about Isarel, then why you allowed him to pass? etc.

If you are an UK Diplomat would you want that kind of time wasting? Just usual diplomatic things, one sovereign country respecting other's wish.

Also many countries like UK has policy to discourage situations where a person might end up in legal trouble or may face legal persecution like this one. And very logically so. Cuz as their is no diplomatic relation between Israel and BD, if a BD citizen in Israel were to be deported cuz for any reason, it's 99% likely that he/she will be deported to the country he used, in this case UK, to enter Israel. And in this situation they(UK) might get compelled to grant him/her a refugee status (as he will face legal actions in BD UK law will prohibit such deportation). In this era of anti-immigration sentiments no one want's that kind of hassle.

The situation is so stupid and sad! I lived next to Pakistani/Bangladeshi diplomats! They turned to my parents - pro-Zionist Jewish Americans - for comfort and assistance when their own country and the State Dept. turned their backs to them. Israel was one of the first countries to recognize Bangladesh. But the favors were never returned, the support and pity never acknowledged, as the new state held onto Israel-hatred as a crutch of continuity as everything else crumbled to pieces.

No Bangladeshi/Bengali has any problem with Jews peoples for that matter. I do believe those diplomats didn't fell any kind of reservation to go to an American Jewish for help. We Bangladeshis are very accommodating, amicable and inclusive bunch. We love our leisure and peace, and don't like to get into unnecessary fights. And I am not saying it just for the sake of saying.

But as our the then foreign minister clearly stated, while we appreciate such kind gesture but we are unable to have formal relations with Israel until the Palestine issue is resolved. And that's the opinion of Bangladesh as a nation.

 

[khansaheeb]

Not referring to Islam specifically, but in general the "legitimate path" for goyim is to follow the 7 Noahide Laws:

1. Do not profane G‑d’s Oneness in any way.
   
2. Do not curse your Creator.
   
3. Do not murder.
   
4. Do not eat a limb of a living animal.
   
5. Do not steal.
   
6. Don't abuse sexuality. [paraphrase]
   
7. Establish courts of law and ensure justice in our world.

"Anyone who keeps these basic rules for that reason—regardless of race, nationality or culture—is considered a righteous person and granted eternal life upon leaving this world."
​

So, as I understand it, the "path" for goyim doesn't apply to a religion but to individuals and their societies. Most important, perhaps, is that you don't get to re-define or distort terms out of convenience. So an individual or society doesn't get to justify murder by skewing definitions, or claiming to be pursuing "justice" when falsifying facts or neglecting to uncover objective truths.

So no one in Israel has reached Goyim and they never will. Quite obvious why.

 

[Bilal9]

This is nothing surprising. Bangladeshis are naturally inclined to treachery. It's in their genetic make up. For a better deal he will betray Israel as well.

Bangladeshi-haters of PDF unite! Tag Kalagiri to join you.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Bangladeshi-haters of PDF unite! Tag Kalagiri to join you.

No hate brother. I've met enough Bangladeshis in US that are like same as Pakistani. But, some Bangladeshi members here are assholes. I wrote that for them. Not for my brothers.

 

[bluesky]

Hebrew tradition do not accept conversion from other religions. A person needs his/her mother to be a Jew to qualify acceptance as a Jew.

 

[Bilal9]

No hate brother. I've met enough Bangladeshis in US that are like same as Pakistani. But, some Bangladeshi members here are assholes. I wrote that for them. Not for my brothers.

I know.

Your feeling of brotherhood is reciprocated....

 

[Yaseen1]

he has chosen wrong path and left true path of Islam and he will burn in hell fire forever after death.his face is bearing clear signs of lanat as evident from his picture.he decided to become jew for temporary benefit but will fail in his life

 

[Ocean]

Hebrew tradition do not accept conversion from other religions. A person needs his/her mother to be a Jew to qualify acceptance as a Jew.

No not true. Yes most jews are born into jewish families but outsiders can join too but have to go through fulfillment of rigorous 700 commandments which could take over years to complete conversion process. Jews have kept this as they dont like allowing outsiders into their faith.

 

[bluesky]

he has chosen wrong path and left true path of Islam and he will burn in hell fire forever after death

No one has come back after death to really attest who will or will not burn in the hell. It is only a matter of putting faith in his own religion. Every one with a certain faith thinks that his faith is superior to others and is therefore the true faith.

 

[Yaseen1]

No one has come back after death to really attest who will or will not burn in the hell. It is only a matter of putting faith in his own religion. Every one with a certain faith thinks that his faith is superior to others and is therefore the true faith.

the signs after and during death are often indicative of person fate after death.similarly true Muslim is always happy and satisfied when his death comes.Only Islam give true concept of GOD ALMIGHTY and Holy Quran is authentic book of all the books in the world.If anyone use true judgement he will always find Islam as true religion

 

[bluesky]

the signs after and during death are often indicative of person fate after death.similarly true Muslim is always happy and satisfied when his death comes.Only Islam give true concept of GOD ALMIGHTY and Holy Quran is authentic book of all the books in the world.If anyone use true judgement he will always find Islam as true religion

Well, you have every right to think that way. Followers of other religions also think almost similarly. Every one has the right to freedom of faith and expression of opinion, but no one has the right to snatch away this freedom from others. Denying others' right create cultism and make people fanatic. We better avoid creating fanaticism. Some fanatic bombing in Kabul killed at least 95 people in Kabul only yesterday.

I will no more give opinion about religion. You live with your opinion and I live with my way of thinking.

 

[Centaur]

No hate brother. I've met enough Bangladeshis in US that are like same as Pakistani. But, some Bangladeshi members here are assholes. I wrote that for them. Not for my brothers.

Thank you ! Glad to know that!

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Not referring to Islam specifically, but in general the "legitimate path" for goyim is to follow the 7 Noahide Laws:

1. Do not profane G‑d’s Oneness in any way.
   
2. Do not curse your Creator.
   
3. Do not murder.
   
4. Do not eat a limb of a living animal.
   
5. Do not steal.
   
6. Don't abuse sexuality. [paraphrase]
   
7. Establish courts of law and ensure justice in our world.

"Anyone who keeps these basic rules for that reason—regardless of race, nationality or culture—is considered a righteous person and granted eternal life upon leaving this world."
​

So, as I understand it, the "path" for goyim doesn't apply to a religion but to individuals and their societies. Most important, perhaps, is that you don't get to re-define or distort terms out of convenience. So an individual or society doesn't get to justify murder by skewing definitions, or claiming to be pursuing "justice" when falsifying facts or neglecting to uncover objective truths.

Zionists thugs dont follow command number 3,5,7
They kill innocent people

they steal

and they dont follow any law

watch this Video this Rabbis has beautiful explained why Zionists are not jews

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Not referring to Islam specifically, but in general the "legitimate path" for goyim is to follow the 7 Noahide Laws:

1. Do not profane G‑d’s Oneness in any way.
   
2. Do not curse your Creator.
   
3. Do not murder.
   
4. Do not eat a limb of a living animal.
   
5. Do not steal.
   
6. Don't abuse sexuality. [paraphrase]
   
7. Establish courts of law and ensure justice in our world.

"Anyone who keeps these basic rules for that reason—regardless of race, nationality or culture—is considered a righteous person and granted eternal life upon leaving this world."
​

So, as I understand it, the "path" for goyim doesn't apply to a religion but to individuals and their societies. Most important, perhaps, is that you don't get to re-define or distort terms out of convenience. So an individual or society doesn't get to justify murder by skewing definitions, or claiming to be pursuing "justice" when falsifying facts or neglecting to uncover objective truths.

Zionists thugs dont follow command number 3,5,7
They kill innocent people

they steal

and they dont follow any law

watch this Video this Rabbis has beautiful explained why Zionists are not jews

 

[Solomon2]

No one is bound to legally. But also the passport don't hold any legal grounds in case of Israel.

Eh, not quite. Bangladesh essentially interprets the phrasing on the passport as forbidding its own citizens to enter Israel, not just warning them that by doing so they are abandoning the protections of the Bangladeshi gov't.

Countries are discouraged by Bangladeshi Gov. to let someone use it's passport to enter Israel...As BD might refuse any responsibility, saying we warned you about Isarel, then why you allowed him to pass? etc.

Can you cite an example of a third country actually doing this?

No Bangladeshi/Bengali has any problem with Jews peoples for that matter. I do believe those diplomats didn't fell any kind of reservation to go to an American Jewish for help. We Bangladeshis are very accommodating, amicable and inclusive bunch. We love our leisure and peace, and don't like to get into unnecessary fights. And I am not saying it just for the sake of saying.

I know.

But as our the then foreign minister clearly stated, while we appreciate such kind gesture but we are unable to have formal relations with Israel until the Palestine issue is resolved. And that's the opinion of Bangladesh as a nation.

Ah, the "but". Yet that stance isn't neutral between Israel and its opposing parties, but a partisan one. Furthermore it's a bow to majoritarianism and away from democracy, as freedom of debate is stifled. At that point you enter into an upward spiral of competitively increasing militancy which ends in conflict, either internal or external - maybe both.