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Israelis gathering to enjoy nighttime attacks on Gaza

I'd clap too, when my armed forces attack rocket lobbing terrorists and their homes. I'd have loved to see the video of Osama or Hakimatulla or Baitllah getting killed too, unfortunately with some familiy members. And on the anti Taliban operation thread pakistanis are posting pictures of pakistani aerial and artillery bombardment to the general cheering of posters too.

Hypocrites are bad, hypocritical terrorists, even worse, but the worst are whining hypocritical terrorists.

Well said my man. Well said.

This is the problem with Pakistani educated elite.

This the reason why TTP survived so long in Pakistan, while attacking our vital installations without any fear.

Why

Our $tupid elite have their heads buried in Islamist brother-hood-hood.
 
Hell even genetics says you dont belong to Israel...You land snatching gentiles! :

Genetic Roots of the Ashkenazi Jews
Most Ashkenazi Jews, traditionally believed to have descended from the ancient tribes of Israel, may in fact be maternally descended from prehistoric Europeans.

The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published today (October 8) in Nature Communications. While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe.

The new findings contradict previous assertions that Ashkenazi mitochondrial lineages originated in the Near East, or from mass conversions to Judaism in the Khazar kingdom, an empire in the north Caucasus region between Europe and Asia lasting from the 7th century to the 11th century whose leaders adopted Judaism. “We found that most of the maternal lineages don’t trace to the north Caucasus, which would be a proxy for the Khazarians, or to the Near East, but most of them emanate from Europe,” said coauthor Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in the U.K.

Richards and colleagues’ story “seems reasonable,” said Harry Ostrer, a human geneticist at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University in New York City who was not involved in the study. “It certainly fits with what we understand about Jewish history.”

The Ashkenazi Jews make up the majority of Jews today and most recently have ancestry in central or Eastern Europe. Previous work has demonstrated that just four mitochondrial types, pass down from four mothers, account for 40 percent of variation in Ashkenazi Jews’ mitochondrial DNA, and some researchers have published evidence of Near Eastern origins for these Ashkenazi mitochondrial types.

To further investigate the matrilineal lines of the Ashkenazi Jews, Richards and colleagues looked at mitochondrial genome sequences in living Jews and non-Jews from the Near East, Europe, and the Caucasus. Based on the results, the team concluded that, in contrast to the evidence for many Ashkenazi males, whose Y chromosomal DNA suggests a likely origin in the Near East, the female lineage of Ashkenazi Jews have substantial ancestry in Europe. Specifically, the researchers found that the four main Ashkenazi founder mitochondrial types were nested within European mitochondrial lineages, not Near Eastern ones, and an analysis of more minor haplogroups indicated that an additional 40 percent of mitochondrial variation found in Ashkenazi Jews’ mitochondrial DNA was likely of European origin. The remaining variants appeared to be from the Near East or are of uncertain origin, and there was no evidence for Ashkenazi Jewish origins in the Khazar kingdom, according to the authors.

Historical evidence indicates that Jewish communities began to spread into Europe during classical antiquity and migrated north during the first millennium CE, arriving in the Rhineland by the 12th century. Local European women could have begun to join the Jewish population around 2,000 years ago or earlier, Richards and colleagues suggest, and the Ashkenazis may have continued to recruit additional women as they headed north.

But some scientists question these conclusions. “While it is clear that Ashkenazi maternal ancestry includes both Levantine [Near Eastern] and European origins—the assignment of several of the major Ashkenazi lineages to pre-historic European origin in the current study is incorrect in our view,” physician-geneticists Doron Behar and Karl Skorecki of the Rambam Healthcare Campus in Israel, whose previous work indicated a Near Eastern origins to many Ashkenazi mitochondrial types, wrote in an e-mail to The Scientist. They argue that the mitochondrial DNA data used in the new study did not represent the full spectrum of mitochondrial diversity.

Eran Elhaik, a research associate studying genetics at the Johns Hopkins University School of Public Health, is split. He agreed with the study authors that the study rules out a Near Eastern origin for many mitochondrial lineages of the Ashkenazis but disagreed that it rules out a Khazarian contribution. “Jews and non-Jews residing in the regions of Khazaria are underrepresented, which biases the results toward Europe as we have seen in many other studies,” he said in an e-mail toThe Scientist. Elhaik recently concluded from autosomal DNA that European Jews did, in fact, have a Khazarian background.

David Goldstein, a geneticist and director of the Center for Human Genome Variation at the Duke University School of Medicine, said that the questions of whether there was a Khazar contribution to the Ashkenazi Jews’ lineage, or exactly what percentage of mitochondrial variants emanate from Europe, cannot be answered with certainty using present genetic and geographical data. Even if a set of variants are present in a specific region today, that doesn’t mean that the region always had that set of variants. Some variants could have been lost due to drift, or perhaps migration altered the balance of variants present in the population.

“These analyses really do not have any formal statistical inference about evolutionary history in them,” Goldstein wrote in an e-mail to The Scientist. “They are based on direct interpretations of where one finds different [mitochondrial DNA] types today. And so the analyses are largely impressionistic.”

Nevertheless, Goldstein noted that the new study “does offer better resolution of the [mitochondrial DNA] than earlier ones, and so the suggested interpretation could well be right.”

M.D. Costa et al., “A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages,” Nature Communications, doi:10.1038/ncomms3543, 2013.

http://www.the-scientist.com/?artic...21/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/

Hahahahaha...Israeli Scientists find was questioned and he was on fire :P

Historians had that theory going around now genetics points it out and people question it..But it is rather interesting Ashkenazi Jews make majority of the Jewish population and they are not even the real heir to Israel! :rofl:



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Ashkenazi Jews Are NOT Descendents of The Biblical Israelites! « Socio-Economics History Blog
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Ashkenazi Jews Are NOT Descendents of The Biblical Israelites!

Modern Ashkenazi Khazars (90+% of modern Jewry) are NOT the Jews of the Bible! Proof: Ashkenazis are not the Jews of the Bible! Ashkenaz is not from the tribe of Shem ie. not semitic! They cannot be the descendents of Jacob/Israel who are from Shem!


Genesis 10:1-3 (New King James Version)Nations Descended from Noah
1 Now this is the genealogy of the sons of Noah: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And sons were born to them after the flood.
2 The sons of Japhethwere Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, and Tiras.
3 The sons of Gomer were Ashkenaz, Riphath,[a] and Togarmah.



    • 1980 Jewish Almanac“Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.”
      (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)
      -The Jewish Encyclopedia:
      “Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.”
      -The American Peoples Encyclopedia
      … for 1954 at 15-292 records the following in reference to the Khazars: “In the year 740 A.D. the Khazars were officially converted to Judaism. A century later they were crushed by the incoming Slavic-speaking people and were scattered over central Europe where they were known as Jews.
      -
    • Proof that God’s covenant is with the biological descendents of Jacob/Israel and not Ashkenazis who are not semitic people!
      -
      Jeremiah 33:23-26 (New King James Version)
      23 Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying, 24 “Have you not considered what these people have spoken, saying, ‘The two families which the LORD has chosen, He has also cast them off’? Thus they have despised My people, as if they should no more be a nation before them.
      25 “Thus says the LORD: ‘If My covenant is not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth, 26 then I will cast away the descendants of Jacob and David My servant, so that I will not take any of his descendants to be rulers over the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. For I will cause their captives to return, and will have mercy on them.’”
      -
    • Proof that at the endtimes, the biological descendents of the 12 tribes of Israel and not Ashkenazis (non semitic people) are the people of the Bible!
      -
      Genesis 49:1-28 (New King James Version)
      Jacob’s Last Words to His Sons
      1 And Jacob called his sons and said, “Gather together, that I may tell you what shall befall you in the last days:2 “ Gather together and hear, you sons of Jacob,
      And listen to Israel your father.
      3 “ Reuben, you are my firstborn, …..
      4 Unstable as water, you shall not excel, …
      5 “ Simeon and Levi are brothers; ….
      6 Let not my soul enter their council; …..
      7 Cursed be their anger, for it is fierce; …..
      8 “ Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise; …..
      9 Judah is a lion’s whelp; …..
      10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, …..
      11 Binding his donkey to the vine, ….
      12 His eyes are darker than wine, ….
      13 “ Zebulun shall dwell by the haven of the sea; …..
      14 “ Issachar is a strong donkey, ….
      15 He saw that rest was good, ….
      16 “Dan shall judge his people …..
      17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, ….
      18 I have waited for your salvation, O LORD! ….
      19 “Gad, a troop shall tramp upon him, ….
      20 “Bread from Asher shall be rich, ….
      21 “ Naphtali is a deer let loose; ….
      22 “ Joseph is a fruitful bough, ….
      23 The archers have bitterly grieved him, …
      24 But his bow remained in strength, …
      25 By the God of your father who will help you, …
      26 The blessings of your father ….
      27 “ Benjamin is a ravenous wolf; …
      28 All these are the twelve tribes of Israel, and this is what their father spoke to them. And he blessed them; he blessed each one according to his own blessing.
      -
    • Proof: in the future, God will divide Palestine up for the biological descendents of the 12 tribes of Israel and not Ashkenazi Khazars!
      -
      Ezekiel 48
      Division of the Land
      1 “Now these are the names of the tribes: From the northern border along the road to Hethlon at the entrance of Hamath, to Hazar Enan, the border of Damascus northward, in the direction of Hamath, there shall be one section for Dan from its east to its west side; 2 by the border of Dan, from the east side to the west, one section for Asher; 3 by the border of Asher, from the east side to the west, one section for Naphtali; 4 by the border of Naphtali, from the east side to the west, one section for Manasseh; 5 by the border of Manasseh, from the east side to the west, onesection for Ephraim; 6 by the border of Ephraim, from the east side to the west, one section for Reuben; 7 by the border of Reuben, from the east side to the west, one section for Judah; 8 by the border of Judah, from the east side to the west, shall be the district which you shall set apart, twenty-five thousand cubits in width, and in length the same as one of the other portions, from the east side to the west, with the sanctuary in the center.

      …. The sanctuary of the LORD shall be in the center. 11 It shall be for the priests of the sons of Zadok, who are sanctified, who have kept My charge, who did not go astray when the children of Israel went astray,…

      13 “Opposite the border of the priests, the Levites shall have an area twenty-five thousand cubits in length and ten thousand in width; its entire length shall be twenty-five thousand and its width ten thousand.
      ….
      23 “As for the rest of the tribes, from the east side to the west, Benjamin shall have one section; 24 by the border of Benjamin, from the east side to the west, Simeon shall have one section; 25 by the border of Simeon, from the east side to the west, Issachar shall have one section; 26 by the border of Issachar, from the east side to the west, Zebulun shall have one section; 27 by the border of Zebulun, from the east side to the west,Gad shall have one section; 28 by the border of Gad, on the south side, toward the South,[a] the border shall be from Tamar to the waters of Meribah by Kadesh, along the brook to the Great Sea. 29 This is the land which you shall divide by lot as an inheritance among the tribes of Israel, and these are their portions,” says the Lord GOD.
      -
    • Proof, after the rapture of the church, the burden of preaching the Gospel will be given to the biological descendents of Israel and not Ashkenazi non semitic Khazars!
      -Revelation 7:4-8 (New King James Version)
      4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed:
      5 of the tribe of Judah twelve thousand were sealed;[a]
      of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand were sealed;
      6 of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand were sealed;
      7 of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand were sealed;
      8 of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand were sealed;
      of the tribe of Benjamin twelve thousand were sealed.
      -
    • Proof: modern Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament Bible. It is really the Babylonian Talmud and the Kabbalah. It is Anti-Christ (Ie. Satanic), racist and supremacist! See: Truth About the Talmud .



I guess research is wrong only you are right :tsk:

What research?
 
Well said my man. Well said.

This is the problem with Pakistani educated elite.

This the reason why TTP survived so long in Pakistan, while attacking our vital installations without any fear.

Why

Our $tupid elite have their heads buried in Islamist brother-hood-hood.
You guys should take this irrelevant crap elsewhere. This topic is not about Pakistan and Taliban/TTP and here we are not discussing the mentality of elite Pakistani class but elite isreali class

Its not a brotherhood issue but simple humanity issues and if you guys cannot dare to speak against oppression and war crimes then its better to not bring irrelevant discussion especially Indians should stay away from this debate if they dont have balls to say a wrong thing as wrong
 
Jews are from tribe Judah, there are 12 tribes of Israel, Ahkenaz are one of the 12 tribes, there are Ethiopian Israelites, Jews is kinda ambiguous adjective, Israel for a reason called Israel and not Judea, West Bank is Judea and Smaria, the last kingdom of Judah.

Eastern European Jews founded Israel. And they hold power to this day. Everyone, from Weizmann in the 40's to Netanyahu of today and all prominent names in between (Meir, Rabin, Barak, Olmert, Peres, Ben Gurion) are Ashkenazi.
 
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You guys should take this relevant crap elsewhere. This topic not about Pakistan and Taliban/TTP and here we are not discussing the mentality of elite Pakistani class

Its neither a brotherhood issue but simple humanity issues and if you guys cannot dare to speak against oppression and war crimes then its better to not bring irrelevant discussion especially ..Indians stay away from this debate if they dont have balls to say a wrong thing as wrong

bhai aap to naaraz ho ga-ay.

militancy is the issue here.

and militancy is bad wherever it is.

Hope you understand now. Because most of the Pakistanis have now tasted militancy first hand.

Perhaps you are safe in the West. But we are not immune to Islamist terror.
 
bhai aap to naaraz ho ga-ay.

militancy is the issue here.

and militancy is bad wherever it is.

Hope you understand now. Because most of the Pakistanis have now tasted militancy first hand.

Perhaps you are safe in the West. But we are not immune to Islamist terror.
where? I am just saying that don't divert the topic...we are not in Pakistan affairs or pakistan war section so why you guys bringing Pakistan affairs in middle east section/topic
 
where? I am just saying that don't divert the topic...we are not in Pakistan affairs or pakistan war section so why you guys bringing Pakistan affairs in middle east section/topic

Even your nick has Pakistan in it.

This is PDF and P is for Pakistan and not P for Palestine.

May be we should change this site to


Palestinian Defense Forum (PDF).

happy now?
 
Well said my man. Well said.

This is the problem with Pakistani educated elite.

This the reason why TTP survived so long in Pakistan, while attacking our vital installations without any fear.

Why

Our $tupid elite have their heads buried in Islamist brother-hood-hood.
You seriously are a dumb-*** lunatic idiot on this forum...every time we start talk on israeli aggression you put your filthy words here about Pakistan to distract..seems your real intention is to get that Israeli bi*ch or atleast to impress her..!

Even your nick has Pakistan in it.

This is PDF and P is for Pakistan and not P for Palestine.

May be we should change this site to

Palestinian Defense Forum (PDF).

happy now?
yeah we should change it too...you got a problem?
 
we all do it and wish to seen it i our heart . if not then why we are fighting here day night ? for us its impossible to seen and for them its possible . its just nothing for me .
 
Even your nick has Pakistan in it.

This is PDF and P is for Pakistan and not P for Palestine.

May be we should change this site to

Palestinian Defense Forum (PDF).

happy now?

Yaar you are think tank full of thinking which you should use. This forum has got many political sections. If you are interested to discuss militancy issue in Pakistan then this is not the right section of the forum because its there to discuss middle east affairs..Discuss the topic and whether you agree with war crimes of Israeli and whether they are justified and what about those who take fun and pleasure from suffering of others.. Is it sane behaviour?
 
Yaar you are think tank full of thinking which you should use. This forum has got many political sections. If you are interested to discuss militancy issue in Pakistan then this is not the right section of the forum because its there to discuss middle east affairs..Discuss the topic and whether you agree with war crimes of Israeli and whether they are justified and what about those who take fun and pleasure from suffering of others.. Is it sane behaviour?

please look at number of threads being opened for Gaza.

So what does PDF mean then?

It was supposed to be for Pakistani defense.

apparently not!
 
Don't blame Israel for this. Blame the numerous wealthy Arab states that surround Israel but are too cowardly to do anything about it. Iran and Saudi Arabia would rather destroy Muslims nations like Syria and Iraq then turn their attention towards the suffering of the Palestinian people.

Saudi Arabia is too busy plotting against Iran, and vice versa. Look at Egypt, it even closed its borders, they don't seem to care too much about the 'ummah', why should we take responsibility for this 'Ummah' when its guardians, the arabs themselves are happy butchering each other?
 
Pathetic arabs, still don't know how to fight. arabs couldn't even fight their way out of a paper bag. I hope Israel teaches them a lesson.
 
Don't blame Israel for this. Blame the numerous wealthy Arab states that surround Israel but are too cowardly to do anything about it. Iran and Saudi Arabia would rather destroy Muslims nations like Syria and Iraq then turn their attention towards the suffering of the Palestinian people.

Saudi Arabia is too busy plotting against Iran, and vice versa. Look at Egypt, it even closed its borders, they don't seem to care too much about the 'ummah', why should we take responsibility for this 'Ummah' when its guardians, the arabs themselves are happy butchering each other?
Iran is not an Arab country. And is almost as far as yours from Palestine...
 

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