Israeli Women Soldiers Break the Silence

[moody]

I mean to say that Pakistan wants to be seen as a voice in an issue it has no direct profit or loss.

Just another hate-Israel bait to show solidarity with Muslim world, keeping aside all strategic and practical considerations.

I mean Pakistan would not be concerned over human rights violation in PRC, Myanmar, Srilanka, etc so much as it cares and cries over Israel.

 

[garibnawaz]

Palestine is a cause that pakistan supports just to feel "More" Arab.

I mean to say that Pakistan wants to be seen as a voice in an issue it has no direct profit or loss.

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GB

 

[moody]

Forum rules

No one liners or semi-one liners!

The rules have been put into place to make the forum act like a forum and not like a chat-session where you can just talk "blah" We are a serious forum and have been made to be a serious forum. If you post, put all yours thoughts and opinion in one post, if you ever make a mistake or would like to add more feel free to edit the post and do what you like to do. Sometimes one-liners will be allowed depending on the situation, making random comments like this

GB

With due rspect, I would suggest you to wait untill I complete my argument before passing judgements.

 

[TaimiKhan]

I mean to say that Pakistan wants to be seen as a voice in an issue it has no direct profit or loss.

Just another hate-Israel bait to show solidarity with Muslim world, keeping aside all strategic and practical considerations.

I mean Pakistan would not be concerned over human rights violation in PRC, Myanmar, Srilanka, etc so much as it cares and cries over Israel.

Isn't that being done by every other country in the world ?? So wht is new if Pakistan does the same.

The super powers on one hand act as a champion of democracy, while on the other hand it supports dictators, topples democratic govts, speaks about human rights issues in Asia, Africa but doesn't sees the human right violations by Israel or some other friendly country.

Doesn't India do the same ?? Who doesn't ??

And by the way Pakistan doesn't wants to be the voice in the issue, as other Muslim countries are there in the Gulf who are more then enough to raise the voice if they wish to.

But being Muslims and having our one of the most sacred Islamic religious site under Israeli occupation, who once tried to bring it down and have plans to bring it down in future, and the gross human right violations by Israelis in the name of protecting their own, plus the kicking out of Palestinians from their own homes and waging of war by killing innocent, is a very good cause for the stand Pakistan takes or other Muslim country takes.

And don't bring in the usual Muslim do this to each other and that, in this discussion to this. We know our mistakes and so does other peoples too.

 

[TaimiKhan]

And guys, don't make into a usual Pakistan Vs Israel or India discussion.

Try to talk about the topic in hand, the first post, which had nothing related to Pakistan or Muslim world, so no need to drag them into this.

Keep the discussion about the subject.

Thx

 

[garibnawaz]

And guys, don't make into a usual Pakistan Vs Israel or India discussion.

Try to talk about the topic in hand, the first post, which had nothing related to Pakistan or Muslim world, so no need to drag them into this.

Keep the discussion about the subject.

Thx

Now before you accuse me again, look who brought Pakistan into the discussion.

I just replied him with a fact that I knew.

So no bashing, No derailing, no illigal from my side.

GB

 

[ejaz007]

Do you know who was the incharge of Black September? During the conflict thousands of Palestinians were killed.

The In charge was then Brigadier Muhammed Zia-Ul-Haq who later became a General of Pakistan Army and Preseident of Pakistan.

Estimates of the number of the people killed in the ten days of Black September range from three thousand to more than five thousand, although exact numbers are unknown. The Palestinian death toll in 11 days of fighting was estimated by Jordan at 3,400, while Palestinian sources often cite the number 10,000 mainly civilians killed. Arafat at some point claimed that 20,000 had been killed.

GB

Your history is a bit weak.

Palestinians tried to create problems for the government of Jordan that might have resulted in the government being overthrown. King requested Pakistan's help and the same was provided. In the process if Palestinians got killed that is unfortunate.

They should not have threatened the Jordanian government in the first place.

A legitimate and legal government requested for help and the same was provided. It was not a violation of any law.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Now before you accuse me again, look who brought Pakistan into the discussion.

I just replied him with a fact that I knew.

So no bashing, No derailing, no illigal from my side.

GB

Are you OK Buddy ????

where in hell does my post shows that I took your name or pointing towards you.

Its a general remark for everyone as the discussion was going the other way around.

Just chill, don't take everything onto yourself.

If i had to say something to you, will take your name or do a PM.

So cool down and enjoy your time.

 

[garibnawaz]

Are you OK Buddy ????

No. I am about to get married hence there is no way I will or going to be OK.

where in hell does my post shows that I took your name or pointing towards you.

Its a general remark for everyone as the discussion was going the other way around.

Just chill, don't take everything onto yourself.

If i had to say something to you, will take your name or do a PM.

So cool down and enjoy your time.

I never said you directly accused me.

It was a precautionary measure taken by me with my previous experience in another thread for which I have already PM you.

Sincerely,

GB

 

[garibnawaz]

Your history is a bit weak.

Palestinians tried to create problems for the government of Jordan that might have resulted in the government being overthrown. King requested Pakistan's help and the same was provided. In the process if Palestinians got killed that is unfortunate.

They should not have threatened the Jordanian government in the first place.

A legitimate and legal government requested for help and the same was provided. It was not a violation of any law.

My history is not weak.

I know the above facts.

My point was that a nation like Pakistan should have worked as a mediator and sorted out the problem without blood bath.

There were other Arab nations who were more concerned about Palestanian actions in Jordan. There was no need for Pakistan to act militarily as it was not creating any issue for Pakistan directly as Jordan is no neighbor to Pakistan.

If you justify those acts then the below quoted statement has no value.

Unfortunatly we have something called concious , and humanity so when someone write about human rights abuse , we tend to take attention towards these issues, as we are not really afraid of the Israeli Angle.

Peace.

GB

 

[TaimiKhan]

No. I am about to get married hence there is no way I will or going to be OK.

Ohhhhhhh , well then God help you, as in reality you aren't gonna be fine or Ok, for a long long time , may be once you are dead, then you will, what we say, " sukh kaa saans looo gae "

Anyway, best of luck for your marriage and have a lovely, wonderful married life

 

[ejaz007]

My history is not weak.

I know the above facts.

My point was that a nation like Pakistan should have worked as a mediator and sorted out the problem without blood bath.

There were other Arab nations who were more concerned about Palestanian actions in Jordan. There was no need for Pakistan to act militarily as it was not creating any issue for Pakistan directly as Jordan is no neighbor to Pakistan.

If you justify those acts then the below quoted statement has no value.

Peace.

GB

Why should we mediate. Their was a legal and legitimate government and was being threatened. They requested our help and we helped them. If we had gone with the mediation part then perhaps the problem would s till exist.

 

[garibnawaz]

Why should we mediate. Their was a legal and legitimate government and was being threatened.

Iran 1979 - No Action
Maldives -1988 Action by India no Action by Pakistan.

They requested our help and we helped them. If we had gone with the mediation part then perhaps the problem would s till exist.

As I said if that is the justification then the below quoted lines hold no value unless you agree with Obama that wars have to be fought for peace.

Unfortunatly we have something called concious , and humanity so when someone write about human rights abuse , we tend to take attention towards these issues, as we are not really afraid of the Israeli Angle.

GB

 

[Canaan]

heh breaking the silence? well that was about freakin' time!
This is not a news flash, and has been documented since forever. The question is what will the so called civilized world do about it? absolutely nothing, no surprise here. Although evidence is there to trial half the military society in "Izraeeelll" for war crimes, absolutely nothing will happen.
And the occupation continues....

 

[Xeeshan]

It is amusing to see so many comments against Israel by Pakistanis here based on one single notion of religion

And who are you supposed to be? Y are you hasitent to call a spade a spade? Does it have something to do with you nationality and religion?

Bottom line: One word says it all, PETHATIC.