Israeli serviceman shoots 5yo Palestinian in the face

[Selous]

Please come to India and face one of the many millions of hindus, sikhs and christians who were targeted for genocide in West Pakistan, Bangladesh and kashmir, driven out of their homes if they were not killed first. The bullets, swords and bombs they faced from the muslim majority were not made of rubber.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here...where is the Muslim majority in India ? Which non-Muslims were targeted and driven out of their homes ?

Or maybe come to Afghanistan and face the kind, devout muslims who shot the children of a South African aid group head (considering you are "south african", maybe you would have heard of this?). The bullets they used were not made of rubber either.

The only difference is, israel is strong enough to defend itself. Good for them.

The Talibs in Afghanistan will shoot any non-Muslim foreigner if they can...I don't condone this but I don't blame them seeing what destruction white foreigners have brought to that land.

but noone is allowed to show that You are at fault?

Please do show me how I am at fault for condemning Israel for crimes against humanity ?

 

[Kyoto]

Meanwhile dozens of children are killed every day in Middle East and hundreds more die every day because of lack of medical treatment.

And that justifies this attack then.

 

[VCheng]

We had a 8 page thread on this injury. He is treated in Israeli hospital and will be fine.

Meanwhile dozens of children are killed every day in Middle East and hundreds more die every day because of lack of medical treatment.

At least this time the title of the thread has not been falsified.

All injuries caused to innocent bystanders such as to this child are regrettable, and should be investigated to reduce the chances of similar events in the future. The rioters who caused the conflagration to begin with should be apportioned their fair share of the blame too, but then again, hyperemotionalism is not a conducive environment to be fair, and certainly not on PDF.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I have no idea what you are trying to say here...where is the Muslim majority in India ? Which non-Muslims were targeted and driven out of their homes ?


The Talibs in Afghanistan will shoot any non-Muslim foreigner if they can...I don't condone this but I don't blame them seeing what destruction white foreigners have brought to that land.


Please do show me how I am at fault for condemning Israel for crimes against humanity ?

You are at fault, when you claim that S.A. Police does not misbehave,
as @500 showed.
You are again at fault when you claim that a rubber bullet hitting the face of a kid
is a crime against humanity.
That is disrespectful to real victims of such crimes.

Collateral damage happens all the time during police activities.
Investigations should be done, and someone must judge whether firing that
rubber bullet was reasonable or not.

No need for any mob mentality, which seems to afflict some PDF posters.

 

[Selous]

You are at fault, when you claim that S.A. Police does not misbehave,

I never actually said that SA police don't misbehave...I said that they don't shoot kids...or anyone. Then 500 brought up Marikana. Too long a story to explain here.

You are again at fault when you claim that a rubber bullet hitting the face of a kid
is a crime against humanity.
That is disrespectful to real victims of such crimes.

Bullshit. If Israel targeting kids is not a crime against humanity then I don't know what is. Israel is a crime against humanity...denying that is worse than denying the holocaust.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I never actually said that SA police don't misbehave...I said that they don't shoot kids...or anyone. Then 500 brought up Marikana. Too long a story to explain here.

Bullshit. If Israel targeting kids is not a crime against humanity then I don't know what is. Israel is a crime against humanity...denying that is worse than denying the holocaust.

ICC - What are crimes against humanity?

I don't see collateral damage from riot control mentioned in the list.
So far noone has showed that the kid was hit intentionally.

Only real investigations can determine if any crime was committed.
Personally I do not see why anyone would select a five year old kid as a target that needs to be suppressed,

 

[Selous]

ICC - What are crimes against humanity?

I don't see collateral damage from riot control mentioned in the list.
So far noone has showed that the kid was hit intentionally.

Only real investigations can determine if any crime was committed.
Personally I do not see why anyone would select a five year old kid as a target that needs to be suppressed,

Ziyad Hamuri from the Jerusalem Centre for Social and Human Rights told RT there were surveillance cameras in the area, which would show that there were no clashes near the school bus where the boy was shot at.

Hate does not answer to logic...why did the Hutus kill Tutsi kids in Rwanda in 1994 ? This is not the first time that kids have been targeted by the Israelis. Look it up.

 

[500]

I said that they don't shoot kids...or anyone.

How 780 people were killed by SA police then in 2011/12?

Here SA police fires at non violent crowd without even aiming:

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Hate does not answer to logic...why did the Hutus kill Tutsi kids in Rwanda in 1994 ? This is not the first time that kids have been targeted by the Israelis. Look it up.

You have not proven that the kid has been targetted = Harmed with the intention to harm this specific kid.
That is mob mentality.

Prove your statements with sources, or keep them to yourself.

Has Palestinian kids been killed by Israelis? - Of course.
Has Israeli kids been killed by Palestinians? - Of course.
Are more Palestinian than Israeli kids killed? - Well known fact.
Who performs the most despicable killings of kids (like slithing throats of infants)? - The Palestinians.

 

[Slav Defence]

Gentlemen ,
A crime is a crime whether it is committed in India,Pakistan, Israel,SA or US.
Instead of sugarcoating it with logic and words-face it and condemn it
Regards

 

[VCheng]

Gentlemen ,
A crime is a crime whether it is committed in India,Pakistan, Israel,SA or US.
Instead of sugarcoating it with logic and words-face it and condemn it
Regards

But Sir, has the crime been proven yet? Did the soldier target the kid specifically or was it just incidental to the situation going on at that moment?

 

[Selous]

You have not proven that the kid has been targetted = Harmed with the intention to harm this specific kid.
That is mob mentality.

Prove your statements with sources, or keep them to yourself.

Has Palestinian kids been killed by Israelis? - Of course.
Has Israeli kids been killed by Palestinians? - Of course.
Are more Palestinian than Israeli kids killed? - Well known fact.
Who performs the most despicable killings of kids (like slithing throats of infants)? - The Palestinians.

I'll prove my statements with sources when you do...when did Palestinians slit infants throats ? (provide credible non-Israeli and non-Amerikan sources). I can show you sources of Israelis killing unborn infants by cutting them out of their mothers.
As far as the whole "harmed with intention" bit is concerned I am just going to ask you if you have ever shot a gun in your life...specifically a shotgun (shoots rubber bullets) ? The first rule of shooting is that only fire when you are sure where your shot is going to hit. When you look down the barrel of a rifle you can see your target and that is when you squeeze the trigger. This is pretty fucking deliberate action and it requires intention. Unlike in the video @500 kindly posted there was no mob in this case but rather a kid getting off a bus. If that was not intentional or a mistake then that means that either the quality of soldiers that the IDF produces is shite or the firearms that Israel produces is shite...they keep going off in the vicinity of Arab kids. And we all know how the Israelis love to boast that they have the best soldiers in the world and the best guns

 

[Solomon2]

I'll prove my statements with sources when you do...when did Palestinians slit infants throats ? (provide credible non-Israeli and non-Amerikan sources).

Itamar attack. Wikipedia:

The victims were the father Ehud (Udi) Fogel, the mother Ruth Fogel, and three of their six children—Yoav, 11, Elad, 4, and Hadas, the youngest, a three-month-old infant. According to David Ha'ivri,[4] and as reported by multiple sources[5] the infant was decapitated.[6] ...settlers saw fireworks and celebrations in nearby Palestinian communities.[76] In the Gaza Strip, the killings sparked celebrations in the city of Rafah, where Palestinians handed out candy and sweets on the streets.​

(Footnote 6 refers to this story in the Daily Telegraph, written by a British MP.)

 

[500]

Unlike in the video @500 kindly posted there was no mob in this case but rather a kid getting off a bus.

Why u follow only the RT version? Not very creditable source to say the least. Here is Haaretz report:

Isawiyah residents said Obeid was standing outside his home while Israeli police officers clashed with children and teenagers throwing stones at vehicles on nearby Ma'aleh Adumim Road.

And by the way, why do u think that firing at nonviolent crowd is normal?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I'll prove my statements with sources when you do...when did Palestinians slit infants throats ? (provide credible non-Israeli and non-Amerikan sources). I can show you sources of Israelis killing unborn infants by cutting them out of their mothers.
As far as the whole "harmed with intention" bit is concerned I am just going to ask you if you have ever shot a gun in your life...specifically a shotgun (shoots rubber bullets) ? The first rule of shooting is that only fire when you are sure where your shot is going to hit. When you look down the barrel of a rifle you can see your target and that is when you squeeze the trigger. This is pretty fucking deliberate action and it requires intention. Unlike in the video @500 kindly posted there was no mob in this case but rather a kid getting off a bus. If that was not intentional or a mistake then that means that either the quality of soldiers that the IDF produces is shite or the firearms that Israel produces is shite...they keep going off in the vicinity of Arab kids. And we all know how the Israelis love to boast that they have the best soldiers in the world and the best guns

The attack is well known, and Solomon has provided one source, here is another.
Israelis and Palestinians in shock after Fogel family massacre | World news | theguardian.com
By googling for you will find more.

Now show me a non-Arab source proving your points.

Been to the Army, so I know how to fire a gun.
I suggest you try to find statistics on how many bullets were used per person hit during, lets say WW2.
That will blow your theory. We are talking tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands.
All these bullets hit something else.

Gentlemen ,
A crime is a crime whether it is committed in India,Pakistan, Israel,SA or US.
Instead of sugarcoating it with logic and words-face it and condemn it
Regards

And the proof a crime has been committed is ... ?