Israeli minister calls for full Saudi ties and official Riyadh visit

[Cell_DbZ]

95% of all the Syrian refugees are escaping the Al-Assad regime and allies which is why pro-Al-Assad Syrian refugees outside of Syria can be found on 1 or 2 hands. I am yet to met a single Syrian refugee in the West that is pro-Al-Assad regime.

People are running away from the civil war in general, however, there was an influx when ISIS rose. (2014-2015)
With scum I just ment all the evil in Syria, Assad, ISIS, Al-Nursa,...

 

[Saif al-Arab]

People are running away from the civil war in general, however, there was an influx when ISIS rose. (2014-2015)
With scum I just ment all the evil in Syria, Assad, ISIS, Al-Nursa,...

Would such groups exist if not for the brutality and short-sigthedness of the Al-Assad regime? The answer is no. As long as the Al-Assad regime exists such groups will have a legitimacy on the ground and among a certain minority of Syrians who view those groups as those that can protect them the best. The current indiscriminate Russian onslaught does not help either.

 

[simple Brain]

I don't care if it interests Israel or not. I am stating the official policy and view of KSA and the Arab world.

Your first sentence states the condition of your mind and the far fetched thoughts you can have about the Zionist agenda. Their is no official policy of KSA, you are forgetting that the Holly Land of Saudi Arabia does not belong to your sponsored god Fathers i-e house of Al-Saud, it is the sole property of every Muslim in this world. So if your Government makes any stupid decision against that Holly Land of ours than we will certainly intervene. I thought you are probably one of those few hundreds of Saudis who would try to understand the facts and will try to think about it for ones at least. But I am literally not shocked at all.

First of all I belong to a prominent family in KSA and people in KSA are not beheaded for speaking their mind.

You are countering your own statement in here, first of all why would a person from a prominent family will go against the decision of the House of Al-Saud? Secondly, if he does goes against it, which is highly unimaginable, than would he be punished for that? Come on man, think before you write in a rage of a self-esteem.

Let alone online. I am not sure which parallel universe you live in? Last of all a person like me that has never supported anything that can hurt KSA, our people or the Arab world for that matter.

Oh God, now you are exposing yourself more and more, here is the reply of your unimaginable irrelevant quotes. Your Government jailed a kid because he was having an online conversation with a US girl. No anti-Government slogans involved; such a severe punishment for what?

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...christina-crockett-saudi-arabia-videos-arrest

I can only imagine what will happen those who writes against the house of Al-Saud. oh wait, I do know what will happen to those; here is the link;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...for-attending-a-protest-aged-15-a6776696.html

There are thousands of cases which weren't went public, and I know at least 2 dozens of them myself. I had hundreds of Saudi Friends when I was studying overseas, I know a lot dude, so next time if you had to take a side of your Regime, think thousands of time before you write something in here.

You are writing nonsense here and speaking about the Al-Assad regime and Syria suddenly.

I have given you an example, had I knew that you have a mind of a size of a lizard, I would have distant myself from any examples. Last time I checked this forum was to express your opinions, since when has it been turned into a pro-Saudi Regime, oh wait, no it hasn't, it was a just one Saudi Regime supporter who made us to think that way.

Al-Assad's Syria has been ruled under a state of emergency and martial law for almost 40 years. Most Syrians, aside from the hardcore Alawite supporters and a few influential Damascan Sunni families (merchant families and the few with ties to the military) have always been against the Al-Assad regime. Syrians rose up long before 2011. Pre-2011 Syria was the Arab country that jailed the by far most political dissidents. As I said it was a country ruled by martial law. Is more needed to be mentioned here?

So that's why Saudi Regime was supporting Syrian Regime for decades? You shared us some pictures and here are few pictures now I would want you to see.

Read this; open your eyes!
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1929072,00.html

No, the Mullah's and the interests of Israel have collided everywhere in recent times expect for Southern Lebanon (Hezbollah).

What are you talking about? Do you even hear yourself? We have eyes and ears mate, we are watching the world very closely, just get out of the sincerity bullshit, face the reality.

KSA would only accept Israel if Israel would accept the conditions set forward by KSA and the Arab world.

Alright, we will wait for that day, your confidence in House of Al-Saud is admirable and highly appreciated.

West was never against Al-Assad. If they were he would be gone a long time ago. Just like Gaddafi.

What? Oh God, than why is there war going on in Syria? Why is it that the West has placed sanctions agianst Al-Assad, why is it that the West is supplying weapons against Al-Assad? Why does West wants to get rid of Al-Assad it explain in every world forum? Why?Why? Why? Why? Why?

No they have not. They still recognize Israel, host an Israeli embassy and made trade with Israel. KSA does neither.

I said Distant themselves, distant themselves, i never said they boycott Israel.

MBS extremely dumb? Ok and the US have no say in who becomes the king or crown prince in KSA. They never had that. Please be serious for once.

Oh God, what kinda a human you are? Would US really wants to have an intelligent and a thinker as a Crown Prince in KSA? If that's the case why did US got rid King Faisal, only worthy Individual of Saudi Arabian Thrown? Why?

By the way this message is not for you, this is for those who are reading our debate, and guys let me remind you one thing that the Israel Lobby in US did all the efforts they could to get Muhammad Bin Salman into kingship.

 

[Cell_DbZ]

Would such groups exist if not for the brutality and short-sigthedness of the Al-Assad regime? The answer is no. As long as the Al-Assad regime exists such groups will have a legitimacy on the ground and among a certain minority of Syrians who view those groups as those that can protect them the best. The current indiscriminate Russian onslaught does not help either.

I understand you reasoning and a agree with that. But you can also ask if ISIS would exist if Hussein would not be disposed. ISIS grew in Iraq first. Terrorism goes way further than that, it is the ideology that picks up weapons to kill innocent people, not Usa, Russia,...

Out of respect, I will no longer respond, because we are deviating from the topic and I do not want to drag you along. I have been called a 'trolling shill' before, just because I accidentaly started to have a debate, which deviated from the original topic.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Your first sentence states the condition of your mind and the far fetched thoughts you can have about the Zionist agenda. Their is no official policy of KSA, you are forgetting that the Holly Land of Saudi Arabia does not belong to your sponsored god Fathers i-e house of Al-Saud, it is the sole property of every Muslim in this world. So if your Government makes any stupid decision against that Holly Land of ours than we will certainly intervene. I thought you are probably one of those few hundreds of Saudis who would try to understand the facts and will try to think about it for ones at least. But I am literally not shocked at all.


You are countering your own statement in here, first of all why would a person from a prominent family will go against the decision of the House of Al-Saud? Secondly, if he does goes against it, which is highly unimaginable, than would he be punished for that? Come on man, think before you write in a rage of a self-esteem.



Oh God, now you are exposing yourself more and more, here is the reply of your unimaginable irrelevant quotes. Your Government jailed a kid because he was having an online conversation with a US girl. No anti-Government slogans involved; such a severe punishment for what?

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...christina-crockett-saudi-arabia-videos-arrest

I can only imagine what will happen those who writes against the house of Al-Saud. oh wait, I do know what will happen to those; here is the link;

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...for-attending-a-protest-aged-15-a6776696.html

There are thousands of cases which weren't went public, and I know at least 2 dozens of them myself. I had hundreds of Saudi Friends when I was studying overseas, I know a lot dude, so next time if you had to take a side of your Regime, think thousands of time before you write something in here.



I have given you an example, had I knew that you have a mind of a size of a lizard, I would have distant myself from any examples. Last time I checked this forum was to express your opinions, since when has it been turned into a pro-Saudi Regime, oh wait, no it hasn't, it was a just one Saudi Regime supporter who made us to think that way.



So that's why Saudi Regime was supporting Syrian Regime for decades? You shared us some pictures and here are few pictures now I would want you to see.

Read this; open your eyes!
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1929072,00.html



What are you talking about? Do you even hear yourself? We have eyes and ears mate, we are watching the world very closely, just get out of the sincerity bullshit, face the reality.



Alright, we will wait for that day, your confidence in House of Al-Saud is admirable and highly appreciated.



What? Oh God, than why is there war going on in Syria? Why is it that the West has placed sanctions agianst Al-Assad, why is it that the West is supplying weapons against Al-Assad? Why does West wants to get rid of Al-Assad it explain in every world forum? Why?Why? Why? Why? Why?



I said Distant themselves, distant themselves, i never said they boycott Israel.



Oh God, what kinda a human you are? Would US really wants to have an intelligent and a thinker as a Crown Prince in KSA? If that's the case why did US got rid King Faisal, only worthy Individual of Saudi Arabian Thrown? Why?

By the way this message is not for you, this is for those who are reading our debate, and guys let me remind you one thing that the Israel Lobby in US did all the efforts they could to get Muhammad Bin Salman into kingship.

I am sorry to break this news for you but KSA is the property of Saudi Arabians and afterwards Arabs as a whole. People who have ancestral, historical, linguistic, cultural etc. relations to this ancient land. A Finnish convert to Islam is not going to tell me that he matters as much in regards to the internal affairs of KSA just because he happens to have converted to Islam which happens to be a religion that originated in what is today modern-day KSA. That's not how it is going to work.

Not at all. There are plenty of critics within the House of Saud and among ordinary people who are never bothered. In fact you see criticism from 1000's of people on a daily basis. For you to face anything you need to cross certain lines and not just once but numerous times. Anyway I am not sure why I am explaining such things to you as you apparently believed that anyone that criticizes anything is beheaded. Using such logic there would be no Saudi Arabians left.

Troll articles from the useless The Independent.

No support. Just meetings. Similar to KSA-Iran meetings. Does not mean anything.



That is the reality. Iraq and Afghanistan was a confirmation. Another is Syria.

If West wanted to remove Al-Assad they would have done that several years BEFORE Russia even became relevant. Stop kidding yourself.

Yes, by recognizing Israel, hosting their embassy, continuing trade with them and having military ties. "Distancing" is useless when this happens.

Keep telling yourself this. I honestly don't care. Every foreigner has something to say about KSA. Billions of opinions. Don't care. What is the key here is the prosperity of KSA and the Arab nation.

I understand you reasoning and a agree with that. But you can also ask if ISIS would exist if Hussein would not be disposed. ISIS grew in Iraq first. Terrorism goes way further than that, it is the ideology that picks up weapons to kill innocent people, not Usa, Russia,...

Out of respect, I will no longer respond, because we are deviating from the topic and I do not want to drag you along. I have been called a 'trolling shill' before, just because I accidentaly started to have a debate, which deviated from the original topic.

That's another discussion. Well the US and Russia are quite competent when it comes to killing innocent people whether deliberately or by accident. Then we blame victims or relatives for wanting revenge.

Al-Assad is the godfather of all those terrorist groups, former sponsor of them in Iraq and elsewhere and the main reason for their existence. Not because he is called Bashar al-Assad but because of the action of his regime and oppression that dates back 4 decades. No ifs here.

 

[19887]

i spent my life in my country Pakistan.. after completing my education & after getting some experience in my field i slatted in Europe... btw thanks to accept that you people dont wanna live peacefully together... by the way this is not a nature of Good human but yes you can say that every bad human only think for his own interest (selfish), and that's not how humanity works...

Humanity works this way because of the instinct of survival and not because of selfishness

 

[simple Brain]

I am sorry to break this news for you but KSA is the property of Saudi Arabians and afterwards Arabs as a whole.

I never said KSA or Saudi Arabia as a whole, I said, the Holly Land in Saudi Arabia, see that's where you make mistakes, you get angry after reading my comments and you don't have a time to think positively.

and afterwards Arabs as a whole.

Here you explain your Budoin mentality that you consider us Ajams and despite we being a Muslims means nothing to you Saudis, good to know, shall keep that in mind.

Not at all. There are plenty of critics within the House of Saud and among ordinary people who are never bothered. In fact you see criticism from 1000's of people on a daily basis. For you to face anything you need to cross certain lines and not just once but numerous times. Anyway I am not sure why I am explaining such things to you as you apparently believed that anyone that criticizes anything is beheaded. Using such logic there would be no Saudi Arabians left.

What are you talking about? Listen mate, think before you write something, you are making a fool out of yourself, why would you lose your credibility that next time no one cares for what you write?

Troll articles from the useless The Independent.

So you are denying that King Abdullah never visited Syria back in 2009, and on one occasion went to Lebanon accompanying Bashar ul Asad? Is that news that bothered you or the source?

No support. Just meetings. Similar to KSA-Iran meetings. Does not mean anything.

So two biggest rivals meet each other means nothing to you, but two friendly Nations i-e Turkey and Israel means a lot to you (my comment regarding Israel-Turkey relations is based on past perspective as described in your posted pictures). This is why I have told you that you will lose your credibility because you just being a stubborn Saudi.

That is the reality. Iraq and Afghanistan was a confirmation. Another is Syria.

What is this now? can't you quote and than answer of the comments?

If West wanted to remove Al-Assad they would have done that several years BEFORE Russia even became relevant. Stop kidding yourself.

Oh for f*** sake mate, read it once again you are even annoying yourself.

Yes, by recognizing Israel, hosting their embassy, continuing trade with them and having military ties. "Distancing" is useless when this happens.

Read this; and let me remind you not every incident or event in Governments make the headline, similarly when officials of Saudi Government visited Israel on many occasions never made a headline.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...renewed-conflicts-allies-170419064152452.html

Keep telling yourself this. I honestly don't care. Every foreigner has something to say about KSA. Billions of opinions. Don't care.

Ya I agree why would you care? Don't expect anything from you anyway.

What is the key here is the prosperity of KSA and the Arab nation.

Oh really? So Qatar, Yemen and Syria doesn't come into your Category of so called Arab Nations. Good on ya mate, keep going I hope you are a charm of your ancestors.

 

[airmarshal]

The only country that is a threat to Israel is Iran. Iran backed Hezbullah has routed Israel in a war in 2006 and before that too from Lebanon.

All these bunch of cowards led by the biggest hypocrite called House of Saud, put together, cant fight or even threaten Israel.

 

[Solomon2]

oooh for God sake... if jewish backstabed Muslims 1400 years ago by breaking the peace deal. does it mean they will backstab us again?...

Exactly. If antisemites have to go back 1400 years to find such an example then is that really so much an argument AGAINST better relations with Israel as it is one FOR better relations with the Jewish State?