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Israeli intelligence agency providing money, equipment to ISIS in Afghanistan bordering Pakistan: Re

Did you really think you had a little chance of passing a UN vote against Israel!!???:lol:
how cute!!

Indian *** licker of Israelis, we never asked you of your stance. Why do you think that your stance is of importance to anyone here? Just like we don't give a shit about your rapistan nation, we don't care for the Israelis either. Cry If you are hurt, but we don't give a shit. LMAO
 
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Gentlemen please, so called ISIS is actually US private military, and there is no way that this army would go to Afghanistan without Pakistan not knowing. The reason US is threatening Pakistan is because US wants passage for its private military into A-Stan and Pakistan has refused. A few agents here and there will slip through the cracks but it is a manageable situation. So what I am saying is that we should not believe into such news without enough circumstantial evidence.

Now as far as Chaos theory is concerned, yes it is being used. But powers like Russia, China, Pakistan which have strong intelligence agencies already know this game pretty well. Such tactics are effective against small countries like Libya, Syria, etc. but countries like Pakistan are not walk in the park.
 
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Indian *** licker of Israelis, we never asked you of your stance. Why do you think that your stance is of importance to anyone here? Just like we don't give a shit about your rapistan nation, we don't care for the Israelis either. Cry If you are hurt, but we don't give a shit. LMAO

Wohh,,,, look who is talking about bootlicking :lol: do you've enough money to take care of your foreign reserves or you're still trying to get the 500million from china by licking :lol:

ya you don't care that's the reason you're running around UN :omghaha: try passing a vote... Chest thupming on media is not enough.. try getting it done kid........ A vote against Israel and US in UN !!:omghaha::omghaha:
 
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Wohh,,,, look who is talking about bootlicking :lol: do you've enough money to take care of your foreign reserves or you're still trying to get the 500million from china by licking :lol:

ya you don't care that's the reason you're running around UN :omghaha: try passing a vote... Chest thupming on media is not enough.. try getting it done kid........ A vote against Israel and US in UN !!:omghaha::omghaha:

We are not concerned about little upset Randians. Continue throwing a hissy fit. :lol:
 
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It is the result of passiveness, litharge and losing the plot by the deep state of Pakistan ever since the Musharraf time. In the name of enlighten moderation, we purged the hardliners within the deep state who were our asset in expanding our strategic depth within enemy nations and replace with those who were passive and pro American, westernised babus, brown sahabs, golf playing uncles, devoid of any threat perception. we have left our enemy nations to fill the void, and now they have reached our door steps.

They think by simply moaning and trying to defend ourselves will solve the problem? When this non sense will stop. Have we not learned anything? Start giving pain to the enemy nations by utilizing their internal vulnerabilities. We have to be relentless. This is the only way.
 
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No, again it doesn't...... i won't prove it to you but there's an agreement between ISI and Mossad not o cross into each other....
Perhaps there is an agreement between ISI and Mossad, but that still does not mean in the long term, that a denuclearized Pakistan would not be in Imposter Israel's benefit.

Or perhaps a nuclear armed Pakistan can accept Imposter Israel to become a ruling state, but that would mean attacking the cultural and religious fabric of Pakistan, so then actually the people tolerate Imposter Israel and accept it as legitimate...?
 
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It is the result of passiveness, litharge and losing the plot by the deep state of Pakistan ever since the Musharraf time. In the name of enlighten moderation, we purged the hardliners within the deep state who were our asset in expanding our strategic depth within enemy nations and replace with those who were passive and pro American, westernised babus, brown sahabs, golf playing uncles, devoid of any threat perception. we have left our enemy nations to fill the void, and now they have reached our door steps.

They think by simply moaning and trying to defend ourselves will solve the problem? When this non sense will stop. Have we not learned anything? Start giving pain to the enemy nations by utilizing their internal vulnerabilities. We have to be relentless. This is the only way.
Sweeping generalization and a shortsighted one at that.

Contrary to popular belief, Pakistan was extremely vulnerable back then. Military capability had degraded and sanctions had taken a toll on economy.

Also, snakes are never loyal. Sooner or later, they would come back to haunt us, and it happened. In-fact, so many snakes were in the region that even American soil was not safe from intrusion.

Proxy wars benefit no one in the long-term.

Do you want to live under TTP types?

Pervez Musharraf is an unsung hero of Pakistan.
 
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Sweeping generalization and a shortsighted one at that.

Contrary to popular belief, Pakistan was extremely vulnerable back then. Military capability had degraded and sanctions had taken a toll on economy.

Also, snakes are never loyal. Sooner or later, they would come back to haunt us, and it happened. In-fact, so many snakes were in the region that even American soil was not safe from intrusion.

Proxy wars benefit no one in the long-term.

Do you want to live under TTP types?

Pervez Musharraf is an unsung hero of Pakistan.


Generalisation? I am not talking about some bedtime stories here, these are some hard facts.

I personally know people in armed forces, brilliant soldiers and top dogs in their field, their carrier was deliberately messed up or simply asked to leave the armed forces due to their religious tendencies. They were our assets, you need to have such individuals among the policy makers, who can think out of box. Enlighten moderators will always be under the influence of American imperialism.

Pakistan will always remian vulnerable specially in this day and age when world moving towards hardliners and right wingers, we can't remain passive and follow this trend. Liberal/left wing hold on Pakistan is a dangerous liability to the state and holding Pakistan back.

Pakistan had seen much worse situation when it was sandwiched between red army and Indian on both flanks. But we had a right wing setup back then who believed in offensive defense and we came on top, protected our interests and put the lid on terrorism on our citizens through proactive strategy. Musharraf response to the challenge was meek surrender of strategic depth and boy did we pay dearly for that treacherous mistake.

You are living in the world when if you don't impose your own proxy war among enemy nations then be prepared to be on receiving end. Post 9/11 Pakistan is the glaring example.

As for Musharraf, every ill in today's Pakistan is caused by him. I am not even going to start on NRO. Just look at today's statement by this moron. Blaming "rouge elements" within establishment for BB assassination giving it a religious colour. So whoes language he is speaking? This is certainly not the language of state of Pakistan. Specially at the time when every Pakistani know that it was Zardari and his Uzair Baluch gang who killed her with full "forigen " blessings.

One thing you to have to remember, no one will be loyal to Pakistan just purely due to evil heart or just because of liability, when one got assets/family connections in western civilization. They will always be used against Pakistan own interests and narratives. And it becomes a deadly combo when these individuals are liberals in thinking and lacks threat perception. Musharraf, NRO, Nawaz, Zardari, you look at them all and their likes with this background and picture becomes clear.

Deep state needs to understand this, every leader in Pakistan, going forward, be it within establishment or civil, should have zero interest outside Pakistan, including financial and family as well. These are liability which hostile forces use against Pakistan through these so called leaders, including Musharraf, and embarrass us from time to time.
 
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The problem is our islamic right wing has been corrupted and is being used against our own common people. We do not who is loyal or disloyal within that right wing islamic hardliner group.

The best approach is a measured mifdle path. Miyana ravi as taught by Prophet Muhammad(SAW) Himself.

By taking one extreme religious side. Or one extreme liberal side one would only be increasing problems 100x
Generalisation? I am not talking about some bedtime stories here, these are some hard facts.

I personally know people in armed forces, brilliant soldiers and top dogs in their field, their carrier was deliberately messed up or simply asked to leave the armed forces due to their religious tendencies. They were our assets, you need to have such individuals among the policy makers, who can think out of box. Enlighten moderators will always be under the influence of American imperialism.

Pakistan will always remian vulnerable specially in this day and age when world moving towards hardliners and right wingers, we can't remain passive and follow this trend. Liberal/left wing hold on Pakistan is a dangerous liability to the state and holding Pakistan back.

Pakistan had seen much worse situation when it was sandwiched between red army and Indian on both flanks. But we had a right wing setup back then who believed in offensive defense and we came on top, protected our interests and put the lid on terrorism on our citizens through proactive strategy. Musharraf response to the challenge was meek surrender of strategic depth and boy did we pay dearly for that treacherous mistake.

You are living in the world when if you don't impose your own proxy war among enemy nations then be prepared to be on receiving end. Post 9/11 Pakistan is the glaring example.

As for Musharraf, every ill in today's Pakistan is caused by him. I am not even going to start on NRO. Just look at today's statement by this moron. Blaming "rouge elements" within establishment for BB assassination giving it a religious colour. So whoes language he is speaking? This is certainly not the language of state of Pakistan. Specially at the time when every Pakistani know that it was Zardari and his Uzair Baluch gang who killed her with full "forigen " blessings.

One thing you to have to remember, no one will be loyal to Pakistan just purely due to evil heart or just because of liability, when one got assets/family connections in western civilization. They will always be used against Pakistan own interests and narratives. And it becomes a deadly combo when these individuals are liberals in thinking and lacks threat perception. Musharraf, NRO, Nawaz, Zardari, you look at them all and their likes with this background and picture becomes clear.

Deep state needs to understand this, every leader in Pakistan, going forward, be it within establishment or civil, should have zero interest outside Pakistan, including financial and family as well. These are liability which hostile forces use against Pakistan through these so called leaders, including Musharraf, and embarrass us from time to time.
 
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The problem is our islamic right wing has been corrupted and is being used against our own common people. We do not who is loyal or disloyal within that right wing islamic hardliner group.

The best approach is a measured mifdle path. Miyana ravi as taught by Prophet Muhammad(SAW) Himself.

By taking one extreme religious side. Or one extreme liberal side one would only be increasing problems 100x
Looking back through the retrospective scope Pakistan should not have allowed those religious personalities who were against the creation of Pakistan to even enter into Pakistan in the first place. She should not have let in those institutions which were against her.
 
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They are mostly the same groups stirring up trouble today as well.
Looking back through the retrospective scope Pakistan should not have allowed those religious personalities who were against the creation of Pakistan to even enter into Pakistan in the first place. She should not have let in those institutions which were against her.
 
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