Israeli Defense Minister Invokes Hiroshima and Nagasaki In Response to Iran Question

[Hiptullha]

The whole Iran-Israel tensions is so ridiculous that I wonder to start from where to talk about it.
Iranian government, once and for good, needs to free itself from this burden called ummah(which never a shiite, like the supreme leader of Iran, can be accepted as its leader). Ummah was a big hoax that makes the shiite world to bleed.

Iranian government should improve relations while Israel is telling the whole world to isolate Iran while at the same time working with the Gulf states to take down each and every Iranian ally in the region, one by one?

BTW, what is the final goal? Can Iranians destroy a nuclear country with brilliant people like Israel which is backed by the whole judeo-Christian world? Of course not!!! and even what if Israel was destroyed? The so called Palestinian would have definitely chose an ISIS style government which would act against shia Iran!!!

Perhaps the final goal is to end the Saudi-Israeli belligerence?
It's not very complicated. How else should a country react to Saudi Arabia arming Iraq with millions of dollars in weaponry and machinery during the Iran-Iraq war or Netanyahu appearing in Congress begging for the US to "stabilize" the region while providing hospital treatment for Syrian freedom fighters. Yeah, that's what Israel's been doing. I saw you ranting about Turkey's alleged support for ISIS. Still waiting for the cries of "Islamofascist!" and "Radical!" directed towards Netanyahu and Israel.

 

[rmi5]

Iranian government should improve relations while Israel is telling the whole world to isolate Iran while at the same time working with the Gulf states to take down each and every Iranian ally in the region, one by one?



Perhaps the final goal is to end the Saudi-Israeli belligerence?
It's not very complicated. How else should a country react to Saudi Arabia arming Iraq with millions of dollars in weaponry and machinery during the Iran-Iraq war or Netanyahu appearing in Congress begging for the US to "stabilize" the region while providing hospital treatment for Syrian freedom fighters. Yeah, that's what Israel's been doing. I saw you ranting about Turkey's alleged support for ISIS. Still waiting for the cries of "Islamofascist!" and "Radical!" directed towards Netanyahu and Israel.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Sometimes when I talk with some people like you, I literally feel that I am talking with a potato. No offense, that's my real feeling.

 

[Hiptullha]

Do you even know what you are talking about? Sometimes when I talk with some people like you, I literally feel that I am talking with a potato. No offense, that's my real feeling.

Ditto when talking to you.

 

[rmi5]

No Palestinians are not extremist Sunnis. They are Shafi'i and are one billion times different than the Suadis.

Most of the ISIS members are from Suadi, Tunisia, Chechen, Jordan, Morocco, France and Turkey.
Suadi terrorists in Syria are 2500 persons and Palestinians are only 70, that means Suadis terrorists are " 35 times " more than Palestinias !!! And a funny thing is that Turkey has " 15 times " more terrorists than the Palestine.

Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Statistics gathered by nation indicate up to:
3,000 from Tunisia,[540][541] 2,500 from Saudi Arabia,[540][541] 1,700 from Russia,[542] 1,500 from Jordan,[541] 1,500 from Morocco,[541] 1,200 from France,[541] 1,000 from Turkey,[543] 900 from Lebanon,[541] 650 from Germany,[544] 600 from Libya,[541] 600 from the United Kingdom,[540][541]500 from Uzbekistan,[541] 500 from Pakistan,[541]440 from Belgium,[541] 360 from Turkmenistan,[541] 360 from Egypt,[541] 350 from Serbia,[545] 330 from Bosnia,[541] 300 from China,[546] 300 from Kosovo,[547] 300 from Sweden,[548] 250 from Australia,[549] 250 from Kazakhstan,[541] 250 from the Netherlands,[541]200 from Austria,[550] 200 from Algeria,[541] 190 from Tajikistan,[541] 180 from the United States,[539] 150 from Norway,[551] 150 from Denmark,[541] 140 from Albania,[545] 130 from Canada,[552] 110 from Yemen,[541] 100 from Sudan,[541] 100 from Kyrgyzstan,[541] 100 from Spain,[553] 80 from Italy,[541] 70-80 from Palestinem,[554] 70 from Somalia,[541] 70 from Kuwait,[541] 70 from Finland,[541] 50 from Ukraine,[541] 40-50 from Israel,[554] 40 from Switzerland,[541] 30 from Ireland,[541] 18 from India,[555] and 10-12 from Portugal.


900+1200 is nothing compared to 300 - 400k dead Iraqis in war.

Just search on google " Zionist massacre palestinian children " and " Zionist massacre palestinian ", you will see the results that shows thousands of Palestinians have massacred by Zionists. This size of bloodshed against civilians have been vary rare during the entire history.

The Zionists are the most important reason of sanctions against my country and misery of Arabs for 70 years.

If you think Zionists are good people you must check these pages:

جشنی که در آن نیم‌میلیون ایرانی قتل‌عام شدند! + تصاویر

هدیه نتانیاهو به اوباما: سند قتل‌عام ده‌ها هزار ایرانی در 13 فروردین | پایگاه اطلاع رسانی رجا

وحشی گری یهودی های خود برتر بین در برابر سایر ملت ها ریشه ی تاریخی دارد. کوروش بزرگ اینارو کمک کرد تا جون خودشون و دین خودشون رو حفظ کنند اما اینا زمان داریوش چه کردند!

عرب ها گناهی ندارند که گیر این وحشی ها افتادند مام اگر جای عرب ها بودیم شاید باهامون همینجوری رفتار میکردن.

Bro also I prefer to be in league of 1.8 billion Muslims rather than being in league of 8 million buthurt savage Zionists who have occupied the first ghibla of Muslims and even won't survive without western aids.

That's what I call propaganda and what you need to clean from your mind.
1. Iraqis were forced by Saddam to go to fronts in Iran-Iraq war while palestinians were volunteer more than any other arab nation.
2. Saudi and Turkey are countries with tens of millions of population, so obviously they have more of those takfiris and nutjobs. It does not mean that they are more extremist than palibans.
3. Palestinians are not shafi'i. They are Hanafi, and more than 1/5 of them are wahabi(Hanbali). Look the map below:

4. Purim was between jews and amalekites who were semitic people from Kan'an. The whole population of the near east was not 0.5 million at that era!!! Basically, Xexres(not Darius) also helped jews in purim.
I just mentioned the above facts to show you how many lies are being told to you by ummah propagandists and why a real awakening in Iran is needed.

Ditto when talking to you.

outta boy. Then don't reply to me again

 

[homar]

@rmi5 Israel is illegally occupying Palestine. No amount of Hasbara will change those facts. It has subjected Palestinians to a slow genocide for decades. Even European countries are now abandoning Israel over its illegal actions and genocidal tendencies. And it is unclear how much longer the US can continue to pay for Israeli crimes by using their veto at the UN. Israel's supporters in the west are running thin on patience and the world will not be quick to forget the crimes of your barbaric pseudo-state.

Iranians may not see eye-to-eye with Arabs on many issues but Muslims are largely united on the issue of Palestine (even though their leaders may not be). You are wasting your time here. You can't dress up genocide no matter how you choose to spin it. The world sees through your lies and the lies of your countrymen. Your Nazi "state" will go the same way as those that you learned your trade from.

 

[Abii]

@2800 Read RMI's last post. Also ask Iraqis to explain to you the nature of Palestinians. They're probably the biggest wahabis in the Arab world. They make Saudis look like Norweigans. Forget IR's brainwashing for a second and open your eyes. The dirt stuck on an Israeli's shoe is worth more than a wahabi Palestinian that wants you, me and all of Iran up in flames. Supporting those scummy felestini wahabis is no different than supporting Daesh.

 

[rmi5]

@rmi5 Israel is illegally occupying Palestine. No amount of Hasbara will change those facts. It has subjected Palestinians to a slow genocide for decades. Even European countries are now abandoning Israel over its illegal actions and genocidal tendencies. And it is unclear how much longer the US can continue to pay for Israeli crimes by using their veto at the UN. Israel's supporters in the west are running thin on patience and the world will not be quick to forget the crimes of your barbaric pseudo-state.

Iranians may not see eye-to-eye with Arabs on many issues but Muslims are largely united on the issue of Palestine (even though their leaders may not be). You are wasting your time here. You can't dress up genocide no matter how you choose to spin it. The world sees through your lies and the lies of your countrymen. Your Nazi "state" will go the same way as those that you learned your trade from.

Honestly, I don't care about talking and educating Pakistanis regarding different issues. You are a big nation of illiterates who have no relevance in modern world, and are fed with ummah propaganda. Please just give me some numbers about how many shiites are killed and how they are treated in Pakistan, and compare it with average Palestinian who has ten times better access to health care, income, ... comparing Shiite Pakistanis with Palestinians, are not shitte Pakistanis the ones who are under a genocide? don't be a hypocrite. What about Ottoman caliphate which did genocide against 3.2 million of Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, ... But, you ummah hypocrites would shut up and go on denial mode in these cases. How is it that when Arabs invade Jews for many times, and get killed in return, a genocide is committed against arabs? Double Standards + Hypocrisy won't help you.
Anyway, no offense, but I don't care about your nonsenses and I don't wanna waste more time on them, since I don't have time, nor motivation to start educating hundreds of millions of uneducated muslims who believe any BS that their mufti and mullah says in their mosques. It's burden is on the shoulder of your own intellectuals to enlighten you. Iranians on the other hand, are one of groups of people whom I care about them, and that's why I directed my quotes to them.

 

[ResurgentIran]

The truth is that supporting Palestinian cause is getting us nowhere. Is it getting us any favors in Arab world? No. In fact, the Arabs are 10 times more hostile to Iran now, than they ever were when Iran was ruled by the Shah (who was extremely cozy with Israel).

Palestinians are one of the the biggest backstabbers that I have come across, as a people.
Second of all, Palestine/Israel is a petite country of 5-6 million people. Why attach such importance to it?
Iran is 80 million country. To me 80 million country Iran is INFINITELY more important than some occupied Arabs that sold their own land to Jews.
There is no benefit in supporting "palestine"

When Shah was close ally with Israel, the arab states objected but they never really made loud noise or fuss about it.
Now that Iran is supporting proxies against israel, the arab states are fuming at Iran and even allowing Israeli jets to enter their airspace to bomb Iran.
You see the illiterate retards we are surrounded with?

It is high time for Iran to "arrive". Be more mature in foreign policy. And any idiot that talks about "muslim brotherhood" should be castrated, because that person is literally too dumb to be allowed to reproduce.

 

[azzo]

The truth is that supporting Palestinian cause is getting us nowhere. Is it getting us any favors in Arab world? No. In fact, the Arabs are 10 times more hostile to Iran now, than they ever were when Iran was ruled by the Shah (who was extremely cozy with Israel).

Palestinians are one of the the biggest backstabbers that I have come across, as a people.
Second of all, Palestine/Israel is a petite country of 5-6 million people. Why attach such importance to it?
Iran is 80 million country. To me 80 million country Iran is INFINITELY more important than some occupied Arabs that sold their own land to Jews.
There is no benefit in supporting "palestine"

When Shah was close ally with Israel, the arab states objected but they never really made loud noise or fuss about it.
Now that Iran is supporting proxies against israel, the arab states are fuming at Iran and even allowing Israeli jets to enter their airspace to bomb Iran.
You see the illiterate retards we are surrounded with?

It is high time for Iran to "arrive". Be more mature in foreign policy. And any idiot that talks about "muslim brotherhood" should be castrated, because that person is literally too dumb to be allowed to reproduce.

The moment you start making any sane political decisions, the moment your propaganda dependant Mullah regime will collapse and a new secular state will rise in its place.

That's why you're supporting the Palestinians, it was never about their cause.

And Arabs liked the Shah regime because he didn't start his rule with a vow to topple every monarch in the middle east and to export the so called Islamic revolution to the world.

And yes, Sunni Arabs will never like the combination of Persian+Shia. Persians under the Shah were secular so we had no problems with them.

Shia Arabs lived among us for a long time, just because they were Arabs, we never had any religious affinity with them. Same with Arab Christians or Druze.

 

[Madali]

The truth is that supporting Palestinian cause is getting us nowhere. Is it getting us any favors in Arab world? No. In fact, the Arabs are 10 times more hostile to Iran now, than they ever were when Iran was ruled by the Shah (who was extremely cozy with Israel).

Palestinians are one of the the biggest backstabbers that I have come across, as a people.
Second of all, Palestine/Israel is a petite country of 5-6 million people. Why attach such importance to it?
Iran is 80 million country. To me 80 million country Iran is INFINITELY more important than some occupied Arabs that sold their own land to Jews.
There is no benefit in supporting "palestine"

When Shah was close ally with Israel, the arab states objected but they never really made loud noise or fuss about it.
Now that Iran is supporting proxies against israel, the arab states are fuming at Iran and even allowing Israeli jets to enter their airspace to bomb Iran.
You see the illiterate retards we are surrounded with?

It is high time for Iran to "arrive". Be more mature in foreign policy. And any idiot that talks about "muslim brotherhood" should be castrated, because that person is literally too dumb to be allowed to reproduce.

There is no political benefit in supporting Palestine, true. The Arabs don't care about Palestinians (Christmas is celebrated with more fervor than Al Quds day in a lot of Arab countries). The Palestinians themselves don't care about us. Even groups like Hamas who we have stood by for so many years were ready to break all contacts when Qatar promised them a few things, and then when they were discarded, they came pleading back to us. And even in this forum, huge Hamas supporters hate Iran.

So you are right in that sense.

But.

It is still the right thing to do to support the cause. We shouldn't be like the west and look at every political situation in a "what's in it for me?" light. We should support Palestine, not how much it will benefit us, but if it is the right thing to do. And it is.

Palestine is occupied by an invading force that was generally not natives (no Iranian leader sees this in a Jewish-Muslim light, they see it as a group of foreigners coming and settling in a middle eastern land). President Ahmadinejad said that why should Palestine pay for the crimes of the Holocaust? Why not give them a European land to settle in? And he was blasted for saying this by everyone.

We should always support the right causes, even if the victims later on spit on our faces. If a person is drowning, it is our morale duty to try to help him, not think, "what kind of person is he? will he help me later on?"

Iran never recognized Israel as a legitimate government. You know what other countries we haven't recognized? Apartheid South Africa, USSR, Saddam's Iraq, Afghanistan under Taliban. And all of these are gone now.

With SA, after the revolution, Iran stopped all trade with the apartheid government. The Shah had a very strong relationship with SA and apparently 90% of SA's oil came from Iran. After the revolution, all this stopped, and you can imagine the loss of money.

But it was the right thing to do and something I can be proud of. Why should Iran care about black non-muslims in an African country, which has nothing to do with us? Religiously, culturally, linguistically, or ethnically? Because it's the Right Thing to Do. And it doesn't matter if the South Africans don't remember now or if certain African muslim posters from this forum hate us.

Each step of the way, we were proven right. When Saddam was the hero of the Arab world, and no one cried for Iran, we saw who was on the right side of history in the end. We were also right with USSR's useless communist system. We were also right with being against Taliban in Afghanistan (who was recognized by Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Pakistan). We have been right on South Africa's apartheid struggle.

So, we should also continue with supporting the right choices, even if get no benefit.

 

[Aramagedon]

The moment you start making any sane political decisions, the moment your propaganda dependant Mullah regime will collapse and a new secular state will rise in its place.

That's why you're supporting the Palestinians, it was never about their cause.

And Arabs liked the Shah regime because he didn't start his rule with a vow to topple every monarch in the middle east and to export the so called Islamic revolution to the world.

And yes, Sunni Arabs will never like the combination of Persian+Shia. Persians under the Shah were secular so we had no problems with them.

Shia Arabs lived among us for a long time, just because they were Arabs, we never had any religious affinity with them. Same with Arab Christians or Druze.

Take your takfiri rants and mentality somewhere else.


+60% of suiciders in Iraq are saudi (850K - 1.2M of Iraqis get killed by suiciders since 2003)

60% of ISIS suicide bombings carried out by Saudis in Iraq


Saudi king supporting terror :

Saudi King allocated new sum of 250 billion dollars to sabotage in Iraq



Saudi Arabia’s King has ordered the country’s Secretary of National Security Council, Bnadar Bin Soltan and Foreign Minister, Saud al-Faisal to do all necessary moves to sabotage in Iraq.

Some Iraqi media quoted Saudi sources as saying that Saudi King Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz in a meeting with senior security officials said that Saudi Arabia donated 40 billion dollars to Saddam during Iran-Iraq war to block the Iraqi dictator’s fall.
The report added that the Saudi King has allocated new sum of 250 billion dollars to sabotage in Iraqi political affairs because the kingdom considers the current Iraqi approach as a big danger for itself.

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Most of your medias on arab satellites are supporting ISIS, they tell 70% of Iraqis are Rafidhi and ISIS victory is a God must!

 

[scythian500]

The moment you start making any sane political decisions, the moment your propaganda dependant Mullah regime will collapse and a new secular state will rise in its place.

That's why you're supporting the Palestinians, it was never about their cause.

And Arabs liked the Shah regime because he didn't start his rule with a vow to topple every monarch in the middle east and to export the so called Islamic revolution to the world.

And yes, Sunni Arabs will never like the combination of Persian+Shia. Persians under the Shah were secular so we had no problems with them.

Shia Arabs lived among us for a long time, just because they were Arabs, we never had any religious affinity with them. Same with Arab Christians or Druze.

Everything in your backward society is secterian and not based on Arab ethnicity... Hizbullah is not Arab? Bashar is not Arab? Morsi is not Arab? What about Shia IRaqia or Houthis? It is and never been an ethnic thing although basing your whole policy on ethincity is also something stone age style...

You must fix the main source of corruption and its main queen worm... Don't you have any shame that still in 21th century your country belongs to one family of kings who think they own Arabia and people are their Ra,aya!! Don't you feel ashamed that non of Arabian citizens has any votes to at least simple decisions? Don't you have any Ghira to claim billions of dollars going to 12000 princess every year? Don't you have shame that your women are not human enough to drive or go outside home without a Mahram gardien? Don't you have shame that you support liver-earter, beheaders savages? Sunnis are as Muslim as Shia to my eyes... I respect my Sunni brothers in Iran as others... But Do you really have any idea what supporting Salafism and DAESH will bring to Muslim world and the world as a whole and to you before everyone?

Beware of your shia Arabs living with you for centuries... You know what they can do to KSA as they are the ones that own the most of the oil...
Don't tell me about Persian BS... Iran is a modern multi-ethnic nation that its leaders is Azeri, Its defense minister was Arab and Its oil minister a Kurd... Persians are just a part of this glory land that left the tribal system of society centuries ago and found the secret of power... unity... Your problem with Iran is not for now or yesterday or with Persians... you had this HAGHD from days that Prophet Muhammad referred you to Persians as educated and enlighten people who will go to space and lead the Islam someday... Your HAghd comes from superiority that Iranians have shown in their post-Islamic 1400 years of brightness (except few centuries that Arabs ruled it).... It is not even a Shia thing... You hate Iranians as they embarrassed you for centuries and still are doing.... Your problem won't be fixed...I promise you that...Leaders are born to lead and Slaves are due to slave...
Stop it and go fix your backward system first... Iran is Switzerland comparing to your system