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Israel used F-35 in Syrian Strikes.

1) If bird accident was some conspiracy that Israel wanted to hide, then why would it report about the accident at all? Jet returned back to service long time ago.
2) How could 1 engine F-35 survive the monster S-200 hit over Lebanon and safely return home? Google S-200 for gods sake.
3) This accident happened before F-35 became even operational. No one would send F-35 to enemy territory before it turns operational.
4) Why do u think its OK for Russian 2 engine jet to crash over a bird hit, while Israeli 1 engine jet can't even suffer some minor damage? Do u think Israeli jets are immune to birds?


Yes u are right.
Consider s200 usually use proximity switch and shrapnel to destroy its target so you can't say because its monstrous it must have destroyed,if not enough shrapnel hit the airplane or they don't hit some critical area you can expect it survive.
Now there is no need for such debates a single photo would have cleared the issue it was s200 or a bird or anything else .
(Honestly I have doubt that aging S200 even be able to detect older generation of airplanes with reduced rcs like f117 that have much higher rcs as f35)

And about russian airplane maybe the bird hit canopy and made pilot loose control over the airplane as you probably knew well complete loss of a single engine is not supposed to make an airplane crash even in takeoff and landing time
 
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1) If bird accident was some conspiracy that Israel wanted to hide, then why would it report about the accident at all? Jet returned back to service long time ago.

i dont know ask those media sites, as to where they got that news and even revealed it on that very same day......im just saying what im reading.
You see. You can't answer the major question. If Israel wanted to hide that S-200 story it would not simply report anything. Jet suffered only minor damage so there is no any need in cover up story.

2) How could 1 engine F-35 survive the monster S-200 hit over Lebanon and safely return home? Google S-200 for gods sake.

man, i know it has 250kg warhead. Obviously it would have totally destroyed that plane...But SAMs dont really need to hit an aircraft directly...it just have to detonate close to its engine exhaust or its wings to punch a few holes into its body, that would be enough for the jet, enough to damage it i mean not maybe destroy it...example is of that f16, it crashed with its body intact.
Even with proximity fuze S-200 would turn F-35 into a sieve with thousands of shrapnel.

3) This accident happened before F-35 became even operational. No one would send F-35 to enemy territory before it turns operational.

it happened on october 2017, first few f35ves were flying in that squadron of f16s whom they were replcing in that same unit. There r pictures on internet n on this forum too before October 16.
F-35 was declared operational in December 2017 (according to a plan). No one sends non qualified jet into an enemy territory.

4) Why do u think its OK for Russian 2 engine jet to crash over a bird hit, while Israeli 1 engine jet can't even suffer some minor damage? Do u think Israeli jets are immune to birds?

Yeah i agree but difference is that this particular aircraft has been certified as bird proof. And that link i shared does have a pdf file from LM engineers and technicians's presentation that they have along with diagrams...its a 20 page file...too big to upload here or i would have myself.

This is the whole point man, thats why i said it looks fishy.
Well it proved to be a bird proof. While 2 engine Su-30 crashed killing both crew members, the single engine F-35 landed without problems. Of course coating suffered a damage, its a composite plane not steel tank after all.
 
Now there is no need for such debates a single photo would have cleared the issue it was s200 or a bird or anything else .
Air forces dont like to release such pics. If you check bird strike on google u will see that virtually all pics are civilian aircraft (i see only one trainer jet and canopy hit of a F-16):

https://www.google.com/search?safe=...1j0i5i30k1.0.deaUQvKwL7U#imgrc=7AaOmgFh0zKxzM:

Surely no one will release pics of top secret stealth with secret coating.

The funnies part of this story that even Assadists who love bragging never claimed they hit F-35. This story was made up by Assad fan boys on internet.
 
Air forces dont like to release such pics. If you check bird strike on google u will see that virtually all pics are civilian aircraft (i see only one trainer jet and canopy hit of a F-16):

https://www.google.com/search?safe=...1j0i5i30k1.0.deaUQvKwL7U#imgrc=7AaOmgFh0zKxzM:

Surely no one will release pics of top secret stealth with secret coating.

The funnies part of this story that even Assadists who love bragging never claimed they hit F-35. This story was made up by Assad fan boys on internet.
Well agree to that air forces don't like show photos of their mishap. But honestly I don't see the point ,nobody get more than what they get from internet about the plane . the coating can't be analyzed by a photo from several meter away . the airplane itself is an export airplane that only God knew how many countries have access to it. And more importantly if I recall correctly USA several years ago arrested a guy who have stolen technical data about f35 and wanted to sell it its probable that the data already leaked as the servers which held data about f35 several time were target of cyber attack. So a single picture would not have been much.
 
Well agree to that air forces don't like show photos of their mishap. But honestly I don't see the point ,nobody get more than what they get from internet about the plane . the coating can't be analyzed by a photo from several meter away . the airplane itself is an export airplane that only God knew how many countries have access to it. And more importantly if I recall correctly USA several years ago arrested a guy who have stolen technical data about f35 and wanted to sell it its probable that the data already leaked as the servers which held data about f35 several time were target of cyber attack. So a single picture would not have been much.
No one will make pics of secret plane to disprove theories made by kids in internet. If it was official claim of Assad then there could be some chance, still low though.
 
No one will make pics of secret plane to disprove theories made by kids in internet. If it was official claim of Assad then there could be some chance, still low though.
Come on how you can consider f35 a secret airplane if its
 

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