Israel to ‘punish’ Turkey.

[CardSharp]

America, oh, you must mean the declining "superpower" of the beginning of the 21st century? Americans can not even handle Afghanistan and Iraq, what makes you think they can remedy the situation in Turkey and Israel? Fact of the matter is they can't, they are unable to. India will soon replace America, as I believe is just a natural course of action..

heh was just me trying to crack a joke.

 

[VKVM]

heh was just me trying to crack a joke.

I figured.

 

[SpArK]

The I LOVE YOU.... I HATE YOU.. between them is going on since weeks... like a drama ..

 

[A1Kaid]

Unless Israel wants to face extinction like the Dinosaurs it better not challenge Turkiye.

 

[T-Rex]

Israel to ‘punish’ Turkey.

Jerusalem fights back: Foreign Minister Lieberman formulates series of tough moves in response to Turkish steps; Israel to cooperate with Armenian lobby in US, may offer military aid to Kurdish rebels

Shimon Shiffer
Published: 09.09.11, 08:54 / Israel News

Jerusalem to punish Erdogan: Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has decided to adopt a series of harsh measures in response to Turkey’s latest anti-Israeli moves, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.

Senior Foreign Ministry officials convened Thursday to prepare for a meeting to be held Saturday with Lieberman on the matter. Saturday’s session will be dedicated to discussing Israel’s response to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s recent threats and his decision to downgrade Ankara’s diplomatic ties with Jerusalem.

Following Thursday’s meeting, officials assessed that Turkey is not interested in an Israeli apology at this time and prefers to exploit the dispute with Jerusalem in order to promote Ankara’s status in the Muslim world. Lieberman therefore decided there was no point in seeking creative formulas for apologizing, instead choosing to focus Israel’s efforts on punishing Turkey.


The Foreign Ministry has now decided to proceed with the formulation of a diplomatic and security “toolbox” to be used against the Turks. The first move would be to issue a travel warning urging all Israeli military veterans to refrain from traveling to Turkey. The advisory will be especially harsh as it will also urge Israelis to refrain from boarding connections in Turkey.


Another planned Israeli move is the facilitation of cooperation with Turkey’s historic rivals, the Armenians. During Lieberman’s visit to the United States this month, the foreign minister is expected to meet with leaders of the Armenian lobby and propose anti-Turkish cooperation in Congress.


The implication of this move could be Israeli assistance in promoting international recognition of the Armenian holocaust, a measure that would gravely harm Turkey. Israel may also back Armenia in its dispute vis-à-vis Turkey over control of Mount Ararat.


‘Turkey better show respect’

Lieberman is also planning to set meetings with the heads of Kurdish rebel group PKK in Europe in order to “cooperate with them and boost them in every possible area.” In these meetings, the Kurds may ask Israel for military aid in the form of training and arms supplies, a move that would constitute a major anti-Turkish position should it materialize.


However, the violent clashes between Turkey and the Kurds only constitute one reason prompting accusations that Ankara is violating human rights. Hence, another means in Lieberman’s “toolbox” vis-à-vis Erdogan is a diplomatic campaign where Israeli missions worldwide will be instructed to join the fight and report illegal Turkish moves against minorities.


The tough response formulated by Lieberman stems, among other things, from the foreign minister’s desire to make it clear to Erdogan that his anti-Israeli moves are not a “one-way street.”


Officials in Jerusalem also noted that Turkey’s global status at this time is not promising as it is, adding that Ankara is embroiled in tensions vis-à-vis NATO and Greece, while Erdogan’s relations with Syria and Iran are also not favorable.


“We’ll exact a price from Erdogan that will prove to him that messing with Israel doesn’t pay off,” Lieberman said. “Turkey better treat us with respect and common decency.”

Israel to ?punish? Turkey - Israel News, Ynetnews

Punishment for israel has just begun:

CAIRO — A demonstration that brought tens of thousands to this city’s central Tahrir Square turned violent on Friday, when thousands of people — led by a heavy contingent of soccer fans — tore down a protective wall around the Israeli Embassy, while others defaced the headquarters of the Egyptian Interior Ministry.
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Egyptian protesters dismantled a concrete wall which was in front of the Israeli embassy in Cairo.

About 200 people were injured in clashes with the police at the Israeli Embassy and 31 were injured near the Interior Ministry, the Ministry of Health said late Friday night. Protesters scaled the walls of the Israeli Embassy to tear down its flag, broke into offices and tossed binders of documents into the streets.

Mustafa el Sayed, 28, said he had been among about 20 protesters who broke into the embassy. He showed a reporter video from a cellphone, of protesters rummaging through papers and ransacking an office, and he said they had briefly beaten up an Israeli employee they found inside, before Egyptian soldiers stopped them. The soldiers removed the protesters from the building, he said, but let them go free.

By 11:30 p.m., about 50 trucks had arrived with Egyptian riot police officers, who filled the surrounding streets with tear gas. Witnesses said that protesters had set a kiosk on fire in front of a security building near the embassy, and that the police had fired rubber bullets to disperse the crowd from both buildings. But at 3 a.m. Saturday, thousands of protesters were still battling thousands of riot police officers. Demonstrators threw rocks and gasoline bombs at the officers, sometimes forcing them to retreat, and the police fired back with tear gas. To celebrate an advance, protesters set off the flares that they typically use to cheer at soccer matches.

Egyptian airport officials said early Saturday that the Israeli ambassador was waiting for a military plane to leave the country, The Associated Press reported.

United States officials said Defense Minister Ehud Barak of Israel had called Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who in turn asked the Egyptian military to try to restore order at the embassy.

In addition, a fire broke out in the basement of the Interior Ministry, but it appeared to have been started from the inside and not by the protesters surrounding the building. The fire was in a room believed to store criminal records.

The scale of the protests and the damage inflicted represented a departure from the previously peaceful character of the demonstrations staged periodically in Tahrir Square since the revolution in January and February.

Organizers of Friday’s demonstrations had said they would call for a list of familiar liberal goals, like retribution against former President Hosni Mubarak and an end to military trials of civilians. But thousands of people marched off from the square to express their anger over disparate recent events, including a recent dispute along the border with Israel and a brawl between soccer fans and the police at a match on Tuesday.

Thousands of hard-core soccer fans — known here as ultras — were for the first time a conspicuous presence in the protests and a dominant force in the violence. They led the attacks on the Interior Ministry and the security building near the Israeli Embassy, and they kept up the fight outside the embassy long after others had gone home. At the Interior Ministry, political activists tried to form human barriers to protect the building, urging protesters to retreat to the square and chanting, “Peacefully, peacefully.”

“Those who love Egypt should not destroy it!” they chanted.

The embassy, which has been the site of several previous demonstrations after the Israeli armed forces accidentally killed at least three Egyptian officers while chasing Palestinian militants near the border last month, was an early target on Friday. In response to almost daily protests since the shootings, the Egyptian authorities had built a concrete wall surrounding the embassy, and by early afternoon thousands of protesters, some equipped with hammers, were marching toward the building to try to tear down the wall

 

[KS]

That's true. Israel has the most to lose in this situation.

Turkey on the other hand, has a lot to gain, from cutting ties with Israel. E.g. increased influence in the Muslim world.

Turkey is in a much better position here, Israel should realize that.

What has it got to loose ?

Turkey pretty much has of zero value to Israel in terms of economy or military exports. Rather it is Israel that exports many critical hardware to Israel.

Israel is now the most isolated nation on earth , this is a desperate move. Israel has much more to lose in ****** around with turks.

You kidding right ?

Still with the unstinting support of US, many nations in Europe you call Israel the most isolated nation on earth.

 

[bularab]

I don't know if Israel ever sold something to Turkey. It is rather the Americans, who sell hardware to the country.

 

[T-Rex]

What has it got to loose ?

Turkey pretty much has of zero value to Israel in terms of economy or military exports. Rather it is Israel that exports many critical hardware to Israel.

Why did israel have such close cultural and defence ties with a country which has 'zero value' to it? Your statement is a classic example of 'sour grapes'! It seems india might send its navy to defend israel from Turkey. Birds of a feather flock together!

 

[KS]

I don't know if Israel ever sold something to Turkey. It is rather the Americans, who sell hardware to the country.

Lets start with the Heron UAVs which is extensively used by Turkey to hunt down Kurdish rebels.

Why did israel have such close cultural and defence ties with a country which has 'zero value' to it? Your statement is a classic example of 'sour grapes'! It seems india might send its navy to defend israel from Turkey. Birds of a feather flock together!

No one makes enemies just for the heck of it. Turkey and Israel had friendly relations till now due to the absence of any conflicting factors. Now they are rivals due to the emergence of one. Doesn't mean Israel has got to loose anyting now nor it was dependent on Turkey in the past.

Infact for various military hardware it was the reverse. Turkey depending upon Israel.

 

[The Truth]

It is time that the bully of the Middle East gets a thrashing and put back in its place. If it does not learn to live peacefully with its neighbours and does not like them then they can alwasy relocate to say---- perhaps Europe or perhaps the USA?

 

[T-Rex]

No one makes enemies just for the heck of it. Turkey and Israel had friendly relations till now due to the absence of any conflicting factors........

You don't need to have defence ties with a country to have 'friendly relation'; you don't sign defence treaties with others 'just for the heck of it'.

 

[KS]

You don't need to have defence ties with a country to have 'friendly relation'; you don't sign defence treaties with others 'just for the heck of it'.

Fine even then what has Israel got to lose here ? And that too more than Turkey loses from its enmity with Israel?

 

[T-Rex]

Fine.......

As I said, to the israelis grapes are indeed very sour at this moment!

 

[Thomas]

It is time that the bully of the Middle East gets a thrashing and put back in its place. If it does not learn to live peacefully with its neighbours and does not like them then they can alwasy relocate to say---- perhaps Europe or perhaps the USA?

pretty funny statement considering it's the neighbors that have been trying to destroy Israel for the last 60+ years. I think it's the other way around Israels neighbors need to learn to live in peace.

 

[TrMhMt]

pretty funny statement considering it's the neighbors that have been trying to destroy Israel for the last 60+ years. I think it's the other way around Israels neighbors need to learn to live in peace.

Live in peace while israeli troops are slaughtering and keep invading their lands ?? You americans want everyone acts like american indians..