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January 26, 2012

Israel Senses Bluffing in Iran’s Threats of Retaliation

By ETHAN BRONNER

JERUSALEM — Israeli intelligence estimates, backed by academic studies, have cast doubt on the widespread assumption that a military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities would set off a catastrophic set of events like a regional conflagration, widespread acts of terrorism and sky-high oil prices.

The estimates, which have been largely adopted by the country’s most senior officials, conclude that the threat of Iranian retaliation is partly bluff. They are playing an important role in Israel’s calculation of whether ultimately to strike Iran, or to try to persuade the United States to do so, even as Tehran faces tough new economic sanctions from the West.

“A war is no picnic,” Defense Minister Ehud Barak told Israel Radio in November. But if Israel feels itself forced into action, the retaliation would be bearable, he said. “There will not be 100,000 dead or 10,000 dead or 1,000 dead. The state of Israel will not be destroyed.”

The Iranian government, which says its nuclear program is for civilian purposes, has threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz — through which 90 percent of gulf oil passes — and if attacked, to retaliate with all its military might.

But Israeli assessments reject the threats as overblown. Mr. Barak and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have embraced those analyses as they focus on how to stop what they view as Iran’s determination to obtain nuclear weapons.

No issue in Israel is more fraught than the debate over the wisdom and feasibility of a strike on Iran. Some argue that even a successful military strike would do no more than delay any Iranian nuclear weapons program, and perhaps increase Iran’s determination to acquire the capability. Security officials are increasingly kept from journalists or barred from discussing Iran. Much of the public talk is as much message delivery as actual policy.

With the region in turmoil and the Europeans having agreed to harsh sanctions against Iran, strategic assessments can quickly lose their currency. “They’re like cartons of milk — check the sell-by date,” one senior official said.

But conversations with eight current and recent top Israeli security officials suggested several things: since Israel has been demanding the new sanctions, including an oil embargo and seizure of Iran’s Central Bank assets, it will give the sanctions some months to work; the sanctions are viewed here as probably insufficient; a military attack remains a very real option; and postattack situations are considered less perilous than one in which Iran has nuclear weapons.

“Take every scenario of confrontation and attack by Iran and its proxies and then ask yourself, ‘How would it look if they had a nuclear weapon?’ ” a senior official said. “In nearly every scenario, the situation looks worse.”

The core analysis is based on an examination of Iran’s interests and abilities, along with recent threats and conflicts. Before the United States-led war against Iraq in 1991, Saddam Hussein vowed that if attacked he would “burn half of Israel.” He fired about 40 Scud missiles at Israel, which did limited damage. Similar fears of retaliation were voiced before the Iraq war in 2003 and in 2006, during Israel’s war against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. In the latter, about 4,000 rockets were fired at Israel by Hezbollah, most of them causing limited harm.

“If you put all those retaliations together and add in the terrorism of recent years, we are probably facing some multiple of that,” a retired official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity, citing an internal study. “I’m not saying Iran will not react. But it will be nothing like London during World War II.”

A paper soon to be published by the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University, written by Amos Yadlin, former chief of military intelligence, and Yoel Guzansky, who headed the Iran desk at Israel’s National Security Council until 2009, argues that the Iranian threat to close the Strait of Hormuz is largely a bluff.

The paper contends that, despite the risks of Iranian provocation, Iran would not be able to close the waterway for any length of time and that it would not be in Iran’s own interest to do so.

“If others are closing the taps on you, why close your own?” Mr. Guzansky said. Sealing the strait could also lead to all-out confrontation with the United States, something the authors say they believe Iran wants to avoid.

A separate paper just published by the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies says that the fear of missile warfare against Israel is exaggerated since the missiles would be able to inflict only limited physical damage.

Most Israeli analysts, like most officials and analysts abroad, reject these arguments. They say that Iran has been preparing for an attack for some years and will react robustly, as will its allies, Hezbollah and Hamas. Moreover, they say, an attack will at best delay the Iranian program by a couple of years and lead Tehran to redouble its efforts to build such a weapon.

But Mr. Barak and Mr. Netanyahu believe that those concerns will pale if Iran does get a nuclear weapon. This was a point made in a public forum in Jerusalem this week by Maj. Gen. Amir Eshel, chief of the army’s planning division. Speaking of the former leaders of Libya and Iraq, he said, “Who would have dared deal with Qaddafi or Saddam Hussein if they had a nuclear capability? No way.”

General Eshel added that when a senior Indian officer was visiting recently, he was asked why the Indians had done so little in response to the 2008 attacks in Mumbai. “When the other side has a nuclear capability and is prepared to use it, you think twice,” the officer replied, referring to Pakistan.

Mr. Netanyahu has made no secret of his belief that the current Iranian leadership, which has called for Israel’s destruction and which finances and arms militant groups on Israel’s borders, is the contemporary equivalent of the Nazis who tried to eliminate the Jews.

Both Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Barak argue that sanctions on Iran’s banking and energy sectors, like the ones getting under way, are vital tools for pressuring the Iranian government internally and keeping it under world opprobrium. But they also suspect that such sanctions will not slow the country’s nuclear program and therefore consider a military option to be vital.

“With all the sanctions, which are unprecedented,” Mr. Barak said on the radio this week, “I don’t think we are very close to a situation in which the Iranian leaders will look each other in the eye and say: ‘There is no choice. We have to stop the nuclear program.’ ”

Mr. Netanyahu has told visitors that he believes the Tehran government to be deeply unpopular, indeed despised, and that a careful attack on its nuclear facilities might even be welcomed by Iranian citizens. They might see it, he has said, as the equivalent of removing the crown jewels from a hated monarch.

Most analysts here and abroad take a different view. They argue that while the Iranian government remains unpopular, the nuclear program has wide support in Iran, and one way to unite the people behind their rulers would be through an Israeli strike.

A former senior official who had top security clearance said he was worried that Mr. Barak and Mr. Netanyahu wanted to attack Iran — a step requiring agreement from other top ministers — and that such a step would be catastrophic both militarily and diplomatically.

“The Iranians have 400 missiles they can shoot at Israel,” he said. “And imagine Israel’s isolation after it attacked. For what? A delay of a year and a half? We are successfully delaying them with other methods.” That was a reference to the sabotage of the Iranian program through the sale of faulty parts and the introduction of computer worms and malfunctions as well as the killing of nuclear scientists.

The official said that the defense establishment was not enthusiastic about an attack. It hoped that sanctions and diplomacy would work and that if military action were needed it would come from the United States.

But this approach poses a difficulty. America’s weapons and equipment are far more powerful than Israel’s. So as Iran enriches uranium underground, Washington can wait longer to decide to attack and still be effective. Israel worries that in the coming year Iran will enter what officials call a zone of immunity, meaning its facilities will move beyond reach.

On Tuesday, Mr. Netanyahu spoke on International Holocaust Remembrance Day and reminded his listeners why he might feel the need for Israel to launch an attack. He said: “I want to mention the main lesson of the Holocaust when it comes to our fate. We can only rely on ourselves.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/w...as-bluff.html?_r=1&ref=world&pagewanted=print
 
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plz get over ur iran phobia! there is more to life...:cheers:
 
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Iran is a paper tiger which is no match for a developed country like Israel and its advance military and technological capabilities. I hope Iran will have the sense to back away from any development of WMD before it will lead the ME into a full-scale conflict which is expected to damaging Iran in many aspects.
 
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Iran should learn from example of Iraq. They had no weapons and yet they were bombed. Iran should produce whatever it can to protect itself. Its the right that every country has.
 
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Iran is a paper tiger which is no match for a developed country like Israel and its advance military and technological capabilities. I hope Iran will have the sense to back away from any development of WMD before it will lead the ME into a full-scale conflict which is expected to damaging Iran in many aspects.

israel capabilities :

F 16 : made in USA
F 15 : made in USA
F 35 (comeing soon) : made in USA
iron dome : financed by US & 99/9999....% made in USA
.....!:lol:
 
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Israel had a hard time supressing Hezbollah forces in 2006, and considering that Hezbollah are military students of IRGC it would be impossible for Israel to go against Iran.

It is like you have trouble beating a karate student, yet you want take on the Karate master
sounds very retarded. (this was a simple example for the brain dead zionist members)
 
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Iran should learn from example of Iraq. They had no weapons and yet they were bombed. Iran should produce whatever it can to protect itself. Its the right that every country has.

we made it ! :triniti:
 
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Iran is a paper tiger which is no match for a developed country like Israel and its advance military and technological capabilities. I hope Iran will have the sense to back away from any development of WMD before it will lead the ME into a full-scale conflict which is expected to damaging Iran in many aspects.

ooooh!!! LOL : Lots Of Laugh !!! :lol:
 
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No one fucks with the Persians, Israel needs to realize the world backed sadam when they invaded Iran and they lost.

Israel needs to stay our of Iran, b/c if you carry on this way, even the next Iranian regime will be hostile towards you.

NEXT !!! in your Fantasies ؟ :whistle:
 
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Iran is a paper tiger which is no match for a developed country like Israel and its advance military and technological capabilities. I hope Iran will have the sense to back away from any development of WMD before it will lead the ME into a full-scale conflict which is expected to damaging Iran in many aspects.

Iran is a paper tiger!!!....how many times r u gonna repeat that?:hitwall: and israel is a super power with guts to tackle its problems alllllll alone without US help ...yea right
 
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Iran is a paper tiger which is no match for a developed country like Israel and its advance military and technological capabilities. I hope Iran will have the sense to back away from any development of WMD before it will lead the ME into a full-scale conflict which is expected to damaging Iran in many aspects.

Dude enough with this bullcrap, as if Israel military status was attained independently and through hard work. All major Israeli weapons systems are made/given by the USA. Your nuclear status was a French gift. You live off aid money you hoodwink from honest US taxpayers to pay for your international terrorism and assassination campaigns. Just the other day there were reports of Israel desperate for a US loan extension on top of all the other military/economic aid, your country is pathetic and lives off handouts.
 
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