Fighter488
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Dec 5, 2009
- Messages
- 1,050
- Reaction score
- 0
What a nasty peice of an article by INSANE zionist.
We, Indian, CAN NOT afford a nuclear adventure at all. Iran is a freind country, Pakistan is nuclear adversary and Israel's security is none of INDIAN business.
There is no MUGHALASTAN struggle in India.
Really a brain-f*rt from Stephen Kramer
Fighter
While looking over the articles emailed to me by the tireless Tel Belman in his excellent daily digest (register at Israpundit ), I recently came across an illuminating article by Professor J.P. Golbert, who specializes in International Law. Citing Israels vaunted military technology, Golbert writes: Israel is not without alternatives or without recourse [to tepid American, and weak European, actions to interdict Irans nuclear weapons development]. Golbert proposes a beefed-up alliance with India as a natural and potent combination. (Israpundit Blog Archive Viewing Israel as an Asian country without US support)
Theres no doubt that Israels Western allies are wavering, at best, in their support for the only Western democracy in the Middle East. Americas State Department, and many in the Obama administration, view Israel as more of a hindrance than as the most stalwart ally in the region. The Europeans are even more problematic, hardly disguising their antipathy towards Israel and their fawning, servile attitude towards the Arabs. European support is nearly absent except for some of the smaller and weaker Eastern European and Balkan countries. (Missing from Golberts analysis is Russia, which nonetheless is always ready to stir up trouble among its rivals.)
The idea that Israel and India have faced similar problems and complement each other is not new. The two countries have very strong trade and military relationships: Israel is Indias second largest supplier of arms; the two countries share intelligence and expertise on Islamic terrorism; they each have a substantial Muslim minority; both are threatened by movements within their Muslim communities for autonomy in areas that are heavily populated by Muslims.
Most importantly, both countries face large Muslim enemies close at hand. Irans wish to eradicate Israel is well known and their proxies on Israels borders, Hizbullah and Hamas, are armed to the teeth with sophisticated missiles and low-tech but dangerous rockets. India faces Pakistan, a nuclear-armed nation like itself, whose intelligence services and military are riddled with Islamist allies and sympathizers. Neither Israel nor India can relax with such enemies across their borders and a possible (some say definite) Fifth Column within their borders.
Golbert proposes short term strategic cooperation with India: In the immediate future, Israel and India might do something of utmost importance together, that being the twin threats of Iranian nuclear weapons and Pakistani nuclear weapons. The former directly threatens Israel. The latter directly threatens India, particularly if Pakistan becomes a failed state, which it almost is already. If Israel and India help each other, it might be possible to eliminate both nuclear threats. To fly from India might not bring Israel closer to the Iranian nuclear plants but it would have the advantage of not having to cross airspace under American control. It is not clear to me whether it is necessary at all to use manned aircraft for the purpose when Israel has both ballistic missiles and cruise missiles that could do the job.
Nor is it necessary to destroy the nuclear facilities themselves. The nuclear facilities cannot function without infrastructure. They are useless without electricity and water and raw materials. Israel can certainly cripple Irans infrastructure, bomb the Majlis and the mullas and the Presidential Palace and even hunt down the scientists involved in the nuclear project. And the same is true of Pakistan.
Of course, the world would be outraged and might even apply serious sanctions against Israel and India. Both Israel and India could withstand those. It would require considerable economic reorientation and restructuring, but it is high time that took place anyway. Both countries would emerge stronger, more independent and more democratic for having done so.
Israel can expect to meet concerted opposition from the world to these measures. ... condemned, vilified and loathed. Israel can even expect that there might be sanctions imposed. On the other hand, submission and obsequiousness and goodwill gestures, confidence building measures, territorial concessions, unconditional unilateral withdrawal from southern Lebanon and Gaza and restraint have brought nothing but condemnation, vilification and loathing, deligitimization and calls for Israels destruction (meaning genocide) when it defended itself.
As long as Israel still exists, more concessions will be demanded of her. In contrast, Israeli and Jewish prestige and acceptance were never higher than following the Six-Day War when the nations feared and respected Israel. The same is true of India. Who believes that territorial demands on India would cease if India were to relinquish Kashmir? Mughalistan is already an objective with a plan to separate the whole of northern India into a continuous Muslim state incorporating everything from Pakistan to the eastern border of India and even a part of the coast of Myanmar. (200 witnesses listed in 26/11 chargesheet Terrorism Watch 9/01/04/moghulistan/ )
What is Mughalistan? If you go to the factindiablog site, there is an exhaustive explanation of this term, which is off the radar screen of Western defense strategists and politicians. Mughalistan (or Mughalstan) is the name of an independent homeland proposed for the Muslims of India. This Mughal-Muslim state in the Indian subcontinent will include all of North India and Eastern India, and will be formed by merging Pakistan and Bangladesh through a large corridor of land running across the Indo- Gangetic plain, the heartland of India. This Mughalistan corridor will comprise Muslim-majority areas of Northern India and eastern India that will be partitioned for the second time in history [first time to India by the British in 1946]. Greater Mughalistan is of strategic significance as it will provide a contiguous, strategic corridor linking the Ummah [the whole Muslim community] into a pan-Islamic Caliphate.
Imagine the northern portion of India controlled by Muslims and contiguous with Pakistan on the west and Bangladesh on the east. (Bangladesh was originally called East Pakistan.) The Indian province of Kashmir is already a powder keg in the region. Mughalistan would include that entire area and could only be created by a massive war between Hindus and Muslims. With the population of the region numbering well over a billion, and China located just to the northeast, the opportunities for an incredible conflagration dwarf even the dire situation in the Middle East.
Golbert and many other pundits have stated that Pakistan is in grave danger of being taken over by the Taliban and Al Qaeda. With the possible advent of Mughalistan, Islamic militarism would cover a huge swath of Asia. Israel is itself threatened by Iran, its proxies, and possibly other Arab states - even ones that are currently at peace with Israel.
The partnership of India, the worlds second largest country (which will probably overtake China in population by mid-century), and Israel, (tiny but a technological superpower), is an undertaking that both countries are hopefully forging right now. With an effete Europe, a wavering America, and troublesome Russia with its own agenda, its in the vital interests of Israel and India to draw even closer.
(Stephen Kramers new book, Encountering Israel Geography, History, Culture, can be ordered worldwide at:
ComteQ Publishing Home)
Stephen Kramer resided and worked in the Atlantic City area until 1991, when he moved to Israel with his wife, Michal Langweiler, and two sons. He can be reached at Sjk1@jhu.edu.
Israel?s Asian Option | www.jewishtimes-sj.com | Jewish Times of South Jersey
We, Indian, CAN NOT afford a nuclear adventure at all. Iran is a freind country, Pakistan is nuclear adversary and Israel's security is none of INDIAN business.
There is no MUGHALASTAN struggle in India.
Really a brain-f*rt from Stephen Kramer
Fighter
Israels Asian Option
While looking over the articles emailed to me by the tireless Tel Belman in his excellent daily digest (register at Israpundit ), I recently came across an illuminating article by Professor J.P. Golbert, who specializes in International Law. Citing Israels vaunted military technology, Golbert writes: Israel is not without alternatives or without recourse [to tepid American, and weak European, actions to interdict Irans nuclear weapons development]. Golbert proposes a beefed-up alliance with India as a natural and potent combination. (Israpundit Blog Archive Viewing Israel as an Asian country without US support)
Theres no doubt that Israels Western allies are wavering, at best, in their support for the only Western democracy in the Middle East. Americas State Department, and many in the Obama administration, view Israel as more of a hindrance than as the most stalwart ally in the region. The Europeans are even more problematic, hardly disguising their antipathy towards Israel and their fawning, servile attitude towards the Arabs. European support is nearly absent except for some of the smaller and weaker Eastern European and Balkan countries. (Missing from Golberts analysis is Russia, which nonetheless is always ready to stir up trouble among its rivals.)
The idea that Israel and India have faced similar problems and complement each other is not new. The two countries have very strong trade and military relationships: Israel is Indias second largest supplier of arms; the two countries share intelligence and expertise on Islamic terrorism; they each have a substantial Muslim minority; both are threatened by movements within their Muslim communities for autonomy in areas that are heavily populated by Muslims.
Most importantly, both countries face large Muslim enemies close at hand. Irans wish to eradicate Israel is well known and their proxies on Israels borders, Hizbullah and Hamas, are armed to the teeth with sophisticated missiles and low-tech but dangerous rockets. India faces Pakistan, a nuclear-armed nation like itself, whose intelligence services and military are riddled with Islamist allies and sympathizers. Neither Israel nor India can relax with such enemies across their borders and a possible (some say definite) Fifth Column within their borders.
Golbert proposes short term strategic cooperation with India: In the immediate future, Israel and India might do something of utmost importance together, that being the twin threats of Iranian nuclear weapons and Pakistani nuclear weapons. The former directly threatens Israel. The latter directly threatens India, particularly if Pakistan becomes a failed state, which it almost is already. If Israel and India help each other, it might be possible to eliminate both nuclear threats. To fly from India might not bring Israel closer to the Iranian nuclear plants but it would have the advantage of not having to cross airspace under American control. It is not clear to me whether it is necessary at all to use manned aircraft for the purpose when Israel has both ballistic missiles and cruise missiles that could do the job.
Nor is it necessary to destroy the nuclear facilities themselves. The nuclear facilities cannot function without infrastructure. They are useless without electricity and water and raw materials. Israel can certainly cripple Irans infrastructure, bomb the Majlis and the mullas and the Presidential Palace and even hunt down the scientists involved in the nuclear project. And the same is true of Pakistan.
Of course, the world would be outraged and might even apply serious sanctions against Israel and India. Both Israel and India could withstand those. It would require considerable economic reorientation and restructuring, but it is high time that took place anyway. Both countries would emerge stronger, more independent and more democratic for having done so.
Israel can expect to meet concerted opposition from the world to these measures. ... condemned, vilified and loathed. Israel can even expect that there might be sanctions imposed. On the other hand, submission and obsequiousness and goodwill gestures, confidence building measures, territorial concessions, unconditional unilateral withdrawal from southern Lebanon and Gaza and restraint have brought nothing but condemnation, vilification and loathing, deligitimization and calls for Israels destruction (meaning genocide) when it defended itself.
As long as Israel still exists, more concessions will be demanded of her. In contrast, Israeli and Jewish prestige and acceptance were never higher than following the Six-Day War when the nations feared and respected Israel. The same is true of India. Who believes that territorial demands on India would cease if India were to relinquish Kashmir? Mughalistan is already an objective with a plan to separate the whole of northern India into a continuous Muslim state incorporating everything from Pakistan to the eastern border of India and even a part of the coast of Myanmar. (200 witnesses listed in 26/11 chargesheet Terrorism Watch 9/01/04/moghulistan/ )
What is Mughalistan? If you go to the factindiablog site, there is an exhaustive explanation of this term, which is off the radar screen of Western defense strategists and politicians. Mughalistan (or Mughalstan) is the name of an independent homeland proposed for the Muslims of India. This Mughal-Muslim state in the Indian subcontinent will include all of North India and Eastern India, and will be formed by merging Pakistan and Bangladesh through a large corridor of land running across the Indo- Gangetic plain, the heartland of India. This Mughalistan corridor will comprise Muslim-majority areas of Northern India and eastern India that will be partitioned for the second time in history [first time to India by the British in 1946]. Greater Mughalistan is of strategic significance as it will provide a contiguous, strategic corridor linking the Ummah [the whole Muslim community] into a pan-Islamic Caliphate.
Imagine the northern portion of India controlled by Muslims and contiguous with Pakistan on the west and Bangladesh on the east. (Bangladesh was originally called East Pakistan.) The Indian province of Kashmir is already a powder keg in the region. Mughalistan would include that entire area and could only be created by a massive war between Hindus and Muslims. With the population of the region numbering well over a billion, and China located just to the northeast, the opportunities for an incredible conflagration dwarf even the dire situation in the Middle East.
Golbert and many other pundits have stated that Pakistan is in grave danger of being taken over by the Taliban and Al Qaeda. With the possible advent of Mughalistan, Islamic militarism would cover a huge swath of Asia. Israel is itself threatened by Iran, its proxies, and possibly other Arab states - even ones that are currently at peace with Israel.
The partnership of India, the worlds second largest country (which will probably overtake China in population by mid-century), and Israel, (tiny but a technological superpower), is an undertaking that both countries are hopefully forging right now. With an effete Europe, a wavering America, and troublesome Russia with its own agenda, its in the vital interests of Israel and India to draw even closer.
(Stephen Kramers new book, Encountering Israel Geography, History, Culture, can be ordered worldwide at:
ComteQ Publishing Home)
Stephen Kramer resided and worked in the Atlantic City area until 1991, when he moved to Israel with his wife, Michal Langweiler, and two sons. He can be reached at Sjk1@jhu.edu.
Israel?s Asian Option | www.jewishtimes-sj.com | Jewish Times of South Jersey
Congress.
