Israel plans to settle 1 million new Jewish settlers in West Bank

[Dante80]

Nothing in support of Jews or Christians; just a neutral perspective of what's fair and what not.

You are again using though moralizations to describe what is essentially an execution of national interest. When I was writing that said execution had nothing to do with morality or legality I was not insinuating that it was a priori immoral or illegal. I was simply stating that it was based on the capability to be executed. Because if that was not the case, it wouldn't have been. Moralizations or calls to truth, legality, fairness, history, religion or rights are simply tools that state actors utilize - since time immemorial - to better execute their self-determined interests.

Let me put it this way, to understand the fallacy of assigning a historic right to self-entitled policy actions. Do you feel that the forceful displacement of the Palestinian people from the lands they have been inhabiting for many centuries is fair, and part of an objective or neutral narrative on the subject at hand?

Have in mind that I am using the word Palestinian in its definition as the ethnonational group comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries, including Jews and Samaritans, and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab.

Not in its modern national identity definition (which is indeed a construct born out of opposition to early 20th century Zionism).

This is how an argument becomes both circular and self-preserving in Real Politik.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Jews have a history crossing the limits , and God punished them for that every time , It won't be any different this time its still time for Jews to get their priorities straight before God intervene and they have to go through another exodus .

 

[urienreghed]

Jews have a history crossing the limits , and God punished them for that every time , It won't be any different this time its still time for Jews to get their priorities straight before God intervene and they have to go through another exodus .

God is speaking to you?
Anyway your comment is quite antisemitic : "Jews have a history crossing the limits" . Yeah sure they decided to be victims of pogroms . wtf.
Pls keep in the topic don't go to these unacceptable comments.

 

[YeBeWarned]

God is speaking to you?
Anyway your comment is quite antisemitic : "Jews have a history crossing the limits" . Yeah sure they decided to be victims of pogroms . wtf.
Pls keep in the topic don't go to these unacceptable comments.

He doesn't have to speak to me , I can learn about Jewish history myself , as for anti-Semitic everything or everyone who shows the ugly truth of Jewish oppression is anti-Semitic ?

 

[Aramagedon]

Quran is anti-semitic too because Palestinians have occupied Holland for 70 years.

You will find that the most people in enmity to the believers are the Jews and idolaters {5:82}

 

[urienreghed]

He doesn't have to speak to me , I can learn about Jewish history myself , as for anti-Semitic everything or everyone who shows the ugly truth of Jewish oppression is anti-Semitic ?

what kind of history is this . It is not History but just your self view on Jews History. They are famous to have been persecuted so saying what you said is quite surprising.
Jewish oppression ? You mean Israel oppression on some territories, then say it like this.
There are a lot of oppression in this world believe me. Many cultures disappeared , many tribes disappeared. many lands were not owned or even populated by some tribes living there. World changes.
What is important in all of this? Respect the territories of the modern world, respect the other culture , respect the local population. Here we know they don't respect local populations That is the point to focus on .
There are international rules that should be enough to criticize.

 

[YeBeWarned]

what kind of history is this . It is not History but just your self view on Jews History. They are famous to have been persecuted so saying what you said is quite surprising.
Jewish oppression ? You mean Israel oppression on some territories, then say it like this.
There are a lot of oppression in this world believe me. Many cultures disappeared , many tribes disappeared. many lands were not owned or even populated by some tribes living there. World changes.
What is important in all of this? Respect the territories of the modern world, respect the other culture , respect the local population. Here we know they don't respect local populations That is the point to focus on .
There are international rules that should be enough to criticize.

It's not my problem if you are unaware of Jewish history. I am not here to spoon feed you everything , Jews have been punished by the god for their own wrong doings . And most of the Jews living in israel from Europe , Palestinian are the native people who has all the rights to co-exist , and unlike the Israel Muslims in past has history to live side by side with Jews and Christians .

 

[urienreghed]

Quran is anti-semitic too because Palestinians have occupied Holland for 70 years.

You will find that the most people in enmity to the believers are the Jews and idolaters {5:82}

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Sure an element of History and the words of hadith for a moment more than 1000 years ago mean so much
you're serious? Even the problem is considered minor problem for the prophet in that time. if you read a bit History about it. anyway that's why i prefer read Molavi , i love, than quoting verses without understanding context. at least with Molavi i know that i have to be a good man . i will not find excuses for hatred based on problems of understanding.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The prophacy is coming true.

They shall be gathered and then slaughtered. They are gathering

Allah says in Quran:

• “They plan, and Allah plans. Surely, Allah is the Best of planners.” – [Quran, 8:30]

You may consider the fact that your plan is subject to the same rule.

The prophesy could be part of the plan...

It could just be part of the fog of war to ensure that his chosen people is concentrated in the promised land, without opposition by those fooled by his disinformation.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

You are again using though moralizations to describe what is essentially an execution of national interest. When I was writing that said execution had nothing to do with morality or legality I was not insinuating that it was a priori immoral or illegal. I was simply stating that it was based on the capability to be executed. Because if that was not the case, it wouldn't have been. Moralizations or calls to truth, legality, fairness, history, religion or rights are simply tools that state actors utilize - since time immemorial - to better execute their self-determined interests.

Let me put it this way, to understand the fallacy of assigning a historic right to self-entitled policy actions. Do you feel that the forceful displacement of the Palestinian people from the lands they have been inhabiting for many centuries is fair, and part of an objective or neutral narrative on the subject at hand?

Have in mind that I am using the word Palestinian in its definition as the ethnonational group comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine over the centuries, including Jews and Samaritans, and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arab.

Not in its modern national identity definition (which is indeed a construct born out of opposition to early 20th century Zionism).

This is how an argument becomes both circular and self-preserving in Real Politik.

So what do You call the descendants of those Arabs that immigrated into the British Mandate of Palestine?
Yassir Arafat was born in Egypt. He was not a Palestinian according to Your definition, right?

 

[Oublious]

Stupid gulfies, so how is this game going to work against Iran? I bet they have agreed to give more lands to Jews...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Israel plan to settle 1m new Jewish settlers in West Bank

February 4, 2019

Israeli Tourism Minister Yariv Levin has revealed that the goal of the upcoming Israeli government is to settle an additional one million Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank, Quds Pressreported yesterday.

The Arabic site said Israeli news website 0404 revealed that Levin made his remarks during a meeting with the Chairman of Samaria Regional Council Yossi Dagan in the occupied West Bank.

“We agreed on reinforcing settlement, accelerating building and creating a situation where settlement does not grow, but develop very fast in order not to meet the needs of the settlers, but to meet the developing settlement,” Levin said.

He added:

“Our goal is to settle one million more settlers in Judea and Samaria [the occupied West Bank] and this must be achieved in a very short time.”

“Our power on the ground is the basis here. The challenge which faces the upcoming government is the acceleration of settlement and growing settlements. We are here in our land of Israel and this is an inalienable fact.”

Meanwhile, Dagan said: “We are very worried about the slow growth rate in the settlements.”

He added: “At the time where there is a national government, our common mission must be increasing and organising the youth [settlement] communities in order to undermine the creation of an Arab state on the ground.”

According to a statement made by the Israeli Housing Minister Uri Ariel in May 2014, the number of the Israeli Jewish settlers was 750,000. He said that 400,000 lived in the occupied West Bank and up to 350,000 in occupied East Jerusalem.

Settlements are illegal under international law.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...o-settle-1m-new-jewish-settlers-in-west-bank/

Well good for them. Also, why you are you telling us?.....it's not the problem of Pakistan and Pakistanis. The Jews and Arabs can do what they like.

 

[Ceylal]

Quran is anti-semitic too because Palestinians have occupied Holland for 70 years.

You will find that the most people in enmity to the believers are the Jews and idolaters {5:82}

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The same is said in the Bible..But the Christian Zealot are behind Israel more than the Jews themselves.. But there is always a doubt from where those chapters originated from where they Devine or human add on?

 

[Dante80]

So what do You call the descendants of those Arabs that immigrated into the British Mandate of Palestine?
Yassir Arafat was born in Egypt. He was not a Palestinian according to Your definition, right?

Not my definition really[1], and that is somewhat beside the point. The reason that I brought it up in the first place was because I didn't want Tshering to skimp around the question by possibly using a "Palestinians don't exist, they are a modern construct" get out of jail card.

Of course Arafat was Palestinian.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Not my definition really[1], and that is somewhat beside the point. The reason that I brought it up in the first place was because I didn't want Tshering to skimp around the question by possibly using a "Palestinians don't exist, they are a modern construct" get out of jail card.

Of course Arafat was Palestinian.

Which means that ”Palestinians” have not been living there for centuries.
Some Arabs might have.