Featured Israel-Palestinian Conflict Resurgence 2021: Al-Aqsa attacks, riots, rockets, military clashes and Jerusalem conflict

[Aspen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1393598677990653964

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

But according to IDF Iron dome was only able to shoot 1000 rockets out of the total 2500 something fired at Israel which means around 1500 remaining must have hit something. So assuming 50% of these rockets fell on empty lands, that still leaves remaining 50% which is 750 rockets. They must/should have made an impact.

The death of 11 people and rockets/missiles falling on an empty land are all propaganda and designed to hide the true casualties on the Israeli side from the Israeli public and the world at large. It happened in 1991 when Iraqi scuds were hitting Israel and also in 2006 when Israel was engaging with Hezbollah. The Hamas' and Palestinian Islamic Jihad's rockets and missiles of today are more potent than the katyusha rockets that Hezbollah were deploying in 2006. That fact needs to be understood.

 

[jamal18]

Are you Shiah ?

Sending rockets there will not harm any Israeli soldiers, it is just make Israeli has the reason to destroy and massacre Palestinian.

We have seen this whole of our lives, dont try to hide facts

So far they can behave how they like without cost. It emboldens the.

Now there is a cost to their behaviour.

 

[khansaheeb]

If you look at Muslim countries following have weapon industries.
1 Turkey.
2 Pakistan
3 Iran problem with irani weapon systems are they are not equivalent to modern systems but they are cheap and can be produced in number.
4 KSA has started its military industry but its in really early stagies so you cant say much.

Pakistan & Turkey are stuck because of political , economic issues cant take open stand even if they wanted and biggest issue is the location.
Iran has been sponsoring many groups for other reasons but thats story for another day not now

solutions are simple ., always think solutions rather than dwell on problems.

 

[CrazyZ]

If you look at Muslim countries following have weapon industries.
1 Turkey.
2 Pakistan
3 Iran problem with irani weapon systems are they are not equivalent to modern systems but they are cheap and can be produced in number.
4 KSA has started its military industry but its in really early stagies so you cant say much.

Pakistan & Turkey are stuck because of political , economic issues cant take open stand even if they wanted and biggest issue is the location.
Iran has been sponsoring many groups for other reasons but thats story for another day not now

This conflict will remain unconventional in the near term.....so its best to send black market type weapons. Logistics and plausible deniability remain a challenge for Pakistan. But we have have access to huge supply chest of black market weapons in Afghanistan....good quality western made weapons.

 

[Darth Vader]

solutions are simple ., always think solutions rather than dwell on problems.

Simplest solutions is following
OIC passes a resolution.
IMCTC send troops of muslim countries for peace keeping missions
One it will limit Israeli aggression as when you have troops from other countries ball game changes as you dont wanna hit those soldiers unlike you want escalation with that entity.
Till now IMCTC has been a empty shell, this might give it some actual power.
2nd since you have troops from multiple countries this will open route access via Land & AIR as almost all arab countries are part of imctc and it will not burdern single country for its resources.
If this happens you will see majority of troops coming from Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt and smaller numbers from other countries this will be the best time to bring Iran into united table so KSA and iran for 1s actually discuss and work for the betterment of Ummah and Muslims.

But a pipe dream not gone happen

 

[Aspen]

Demonstrations are heating up on the northern border: Lebanese are trying to destroy equipment in the fence, throwing Molotov cocktails. IDF forces also use skimmers to drop gas grenades https://t.co/AnVhO4LtjI

https://twitter.com/x/status/1393604869123153920

 

[Darth Vader]

This conflict will remain unconventional in the near term.....so its best to send black market type weapons. Logistics and plausible deniability remain a challenge for Pakistan. But we have have access to huge supply chest of black market weapons in Afghanistan....good quality western made weapons.

Sending support isnt the problem.
Political will is the issue, Because of the location Pakistan single handedly cant send much you need regional support from these countries and groups so even imagine Pakistan wants to start sending support they allow it.

 

[Gomig-21]

Palestinian killed moments ago after Israeli airstrike hits his car in Gaza city

https://twitter.com/x/status/1393590485831331853

https://twitter.com/x/status/1393582739031474179

Watching many of these terrible destructions from an entity that seems to have no remorse or regard for the human lives of these unfortunate Palestinians, the criminals are not using any fancy underground detonating munition or anything like that. If you watch that triple tower where the middle one stood for a while until they brought that down too, from one of the angles you can clearly see a pair of missiles coming at a sharp angle into the foundation. They're probably using JDAMs or whatever guided munitions they have, but nothing like mentioned before about some high flying and penetrating through the top all the way down and exploding underground to bring the building down.
Not sure if Netanyahu was saying something like that when he was bragging about that strike. The reason they do that is because of the standard construction methods in Gazha and even Syria and many other places even in Egypt is a series of concrete columns with rebars placed at the corners and they add as many bearing ones in the middle and those are used to support the entire building as it goes up. Depending on the engineers, the strength of the columns, they can only support a certain amount of floors that they can't build beyond and they always go the limit of course. You send a JDAM right through those columns and really all you need to do is know out two corner columns and the building collapses. So that's what they're unfortunately doing. No fancy underground bunker busters or anything like that.

The Israelis are trying to destroy every independent information flows from Gaza so that only their narrative is dominant.

If you were to trust them only military objectives have been targeted and the only victims are Palestinian fighters......

Reality is the vast majority of the victims are civilians while they are attacking non strategic/military targets. The narrative is "Yeah but this building,this religious place or this school housed fighters or weapons....." with most of the time providing 0 credible evidence.

Yep and the 1 hour notice to evacuate prior to that is just an excuse for them to show that they're trying not to target civilians. Where do they expect these buildings to fall on? And how is every one in there going to get the notice and gather their important belongings and get to a safe place in 1 hour? It's a joke of disproportional force to blame Hamas for their actions. Just so terrible to watch. The Egyptian delegation is putting all sorts of pressure on both sides to end this.

 

[ZY-CN-CA]

The problem is that Arabs can’t beat Israel.

 

[khansaheeb]

BBC's emblem to represent unbiased reporting in the Israeli attack on Palestinians:-

 

[Aspen]

Sending support isnt the problem.
Political will is the issue, Because of the location Pakistan single handedly cant send much you need regional support from these countries and groups so even imagine Pakistan wants to start sending support they allow it.

Pakistan, Iran, and Turkey need to form a united coalition and get creative.

We need to seriously think about how to break this Gaza blockade. One option is for Pakistan and Turkey to deploy C130's to a nearby airbase and conduct high altitude, high speed airdrops into Gaza with packages of weapons supplies.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

No its not cowardice. This is a game of chess. And we/you are the pawns and pieces. Gaza is a pawn, and the overall objective is the only thing that matters. You Arabs have had a chance for 70 years, and I think Iranians are calling the shots now. And they are very rational.

As much as everyone loves gaza, the 6 million unoccupied people of Lebanon and their accesss to the sea and to syria is much more important. Lebanon has to have a safe and secure border with Israel. They fought for it for decades.

I suspect the Iranians believe the palestians will have to fight their own battles with unlimited support. Only when you can establish a beachhead where supplies and people can be brought in will it get easier for you guys. This will not happen soon.

It's a really tough thing to say, but you have to be realistic. This can only end with a ceasefire. All Israel will get out of this is the cost of attacking gaza again. If it's high enough, Gazans may have established that hard solid border.

Actually, with one more week of continuous Palestinian rocket and missile barrages that respond to Israeli attacks, the Palestinians will establish a deterrent. The biggest challenge is it'll deliver a blow to the long-held Zionist belief that they need to continuously expanding to West back, including East Jerusalem. This is why in the recent negotiations, Netanyahu was adamant that he is ready to stop the war while not making any commitments on Jerusalem. The current war is continuing because if Israelis accept the Hamas demands on East Jerusalem, it'll throw a huge hole in their manufactured belief the entire Quddus belongs to them.

On a separate note, I see people making references to Hezbollah. Fellas, if you look at the facts surrounding Palestinians in Gaza where they're blockaded from air, land, and sea, and where they have to bring in all supplies through tunnels, they've really done far better than the Hezbollah and whole Arab armies combined including 1973 war. The Gazans, with their limited supplies of rockets and where they have to resort to local manufacturing of arms, they really have become the only force today challenging Israel. With one or two more weeks and continuous missile and rocket barrages on Israel, they should get a ceasefire. And that should assure them the continuation of their missile and rocket R&D.

 

[khansaheeb]

Watching many of these terrible destructions from an entity that seems to have no remorse or regard for the human lives of these unfortunate Palestinians, the criminals are not using any fancy underground detonating munition or anything like that. If you watch that triple tower where the middle one stood for a while until they brought that down too, from one of the angles you can clearly see a pair of missiles coming at a sharp angle into the foundation. They're probably using JDAMs or whatever guided munitions they have, but nothing like mentioned before about some high flying and penetrating through the top all the way down and exploding underground to bring the building down.
Not sure if Netanyahu was saying something like that when he was bragging about that strike. The reason they do that is because of the standard construction methods in Gazha and even Syria and many other places even in Egypt is a series of concrete columns with rebars placed at the corners and they add as many bearing ones in the middle and those are used to support the entire building as it goes up. Depending on the engineers, the strength of the columns, they can only support a certain amount of floors that they can't build beyond and they always go the limit of course. You send a JDAM right through those columns and really all you need to do is know out two corner columns and the building collapses. So that's what they're unfortunately doing. No fancy underground bunker busters or anything like that.



Yep and the 1 hour notice to evacuate prior to that is just an excuse for them to show that they're trying not to target civilians. Where do they expect these buildings to fall on? And how is every one in there going to get the notice and gather their important belongings and get to a safe place in 1 hour? It's a joke of disproportional force to blame Hamas for their actions. Just so terrible to watch. The Egyptian delegation is putting all sorts of pressure on both sides to end this.

Yep complements from the US Neocons who provided these weapons free of charge to Israel.

 

[Dariush the Great]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1393608510089334785