Featured Israel-Palestinian Conflict Resurgence 2021: Al-Aqsa attacks, riots, rockets, military clashes and Jerusalem conflict

[Saifullah]

As I said - emotional tangents and nothing more.

Aa i said act stupid and tag along the line you wana tag along.

Or perhaps tag along the line while making "Dua" of yours on the mat.

As i quoted before here for you again

 

[PakFactor]

The UAE does plenty for the Ummah Al hamdulelah. So does KSA. Actions speak louder than words and its actions are well documented and readily available on the web. It is funny that due to a few political steps taken by the UAE you choose to ignore all the good the UAE has done for the ummah , starting with Pakistan and still is.


Right. So much emotions here. Does it sometimes cross your mind "why doesnt pakistan do anything ?"

Giving money to rebuild houses and infrastructure, just to get it bombed again is a waste of time, resources and money. It's more of a liability than anything. Let's not forget their is documentation of UAE and Kuwaitis who buy the properties of Palestinians and then turn around and sell to the Israelis as well, basically shooting one self in their own feet.

 

[python-000]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57034237

The attack happened in light of the illegal removal of Palestinians from their homes in Al JArah, where the zionist filth is forcefully moving in and changing the demographics of the area, to make it more jewish, a ploy being copied by one friend of theirs.

Last night the jews attacked the Al Aqsa compund during Isha and taveeh prayers, and countless videos are there showing them attacking the worshipers during prayers, shooting at them stun grenades, tear gas, and rubber bullets.

But hay, its an Arab problem, the Palestinians dont support us on Kashmir, yada yada yada, who cares about the Qibla awal.

May Allah bring his punishment down on the oppressors, and we and our own are weak, and useless.

Israel is a pure evilish & satanic state on the face of this earth...

 

[PakFactor]

Not only did they fear a strong reaction, they never officially announced it just to appeal to their base that they kept their campaign promise, and that's what Trump did which gave Netanyahu the green light for this. Look at all the embassies that shifted to Jerusalem almost immediately after that terrible announcement.

Most US presidents would say they believed and even supported all of Jerusalem to be Israel's capital only during their campaign runs. It was an election strategy to appease the strong and powerful Jewish contingency here in the United States to earn their votes. BUT, they NEVER followed through with it once elected because they were smart enough and surrounded themselves with the best advisors whom told these newly elected presidents that it's not a good idea and that Jerusalem should remain the way it is until a two-state solution is created because that city is a huge part of creating a two-state solution or it would create either a 3rd intifada or some form of violence and here we are. So the US is ultimately responsible.

There are ways to put pressure on both the US and the EU but getting an entire batch of Muslim & even non-Muslim nations to form a true alliance that can put enough pressure economically and diplomatically on those two entities is a practical impossibility as there is too much infighting already between us. But that's the diplomatic solution or, Turkey, Egypt, Saudiya, the UAE, Jordan, Pakistan, Sudan, Algeria, all unite in a coalition and bomb the daylights out of Israel's military and suffer the huge consequences. Anything else will only exacerbate the current situation or make it worst.

I feel we are way past the point of applying pressure and calling these Heads of State. While it was silly of Trump doing what he did, it was a master stroke on his part. Because now he's officially taken Jerusalem of the table completely and strengthened Israeli hand. The two state solution was never a question and let's be realist about it, it died along time ago.

Arabs have one of two options left now because everything else is exhausted:

1) Hand over Israel the remaining Arab lands (because as it stands a viable state can't be created)
2) War it out one final time and settle the question

 

[Gomig-21]

I feel we are way past the point of applying pressure and calling these Heads of State. While it was silly of Trump doing what he did, it was a master stroke on his part. Because now he's officially taken Jerusalem of the table completely and strengthened Israeli hand. The two state solution was never a question and let's be realist about it, it died along time ago.

I would say "a master stroke on his part" is quite subjective. And honestly, who cares if it was a brilliant move on his part no disrespect intended. It was the most selfish and unworthy of any sort of praise IMO. Quite the contrary. I just find it incredibly fascinating the support the US gives Israel, even now that all with all these filthy barbaric acts are finally all over MSM and not just relegated to the great Twitter warrior Sarah Wilkinson who has devoted practically her whole life to keep the awareness of the atrocities on social media.

Trump made that move without a single mention or consultation to any member of the Palestinian Authority. Then that creep Jared Kushner when pressed really hard, came up with this ridiculous layout for a two-state solution'

Abbas and all the Palestinians laughed at it as if some New York creep with nothing of political clout or experience with the intricate history or this conflict, only his Jewish background and faith can never be taken seriously with this. People with MUCH HIGER clout and influence have failed before if you really look at it, is seems like the appearance of more like a Palestinian scatter land, dot withstanding, you really have to take a look and the West Bank and what the official Palestinian percentage is there because that is also a cause of this. Of course Israel was given Jerusalem first before considering anything for the Palestinians. The US is JUST as complicit as Israel and now my opinion of Biden and Kamala Harris has gone down the tubes if they don't act soon, which they won't for fear of losing the next election.

Arabs have one of two options left now because everything else is exhausted:

Agree to a certain point. But all the countries I mentioned can immediately get together and agree to expel the US ambassador from ALL those countries. That would be a shocker. Then look at all the economic sanctions THEY can put on the US for not acting against Israel. Why is it only the US that can sanction others. Get Russia and China to join in and that will make them lose sleep! So no, not everything else is exhausted it's whether the will power to do something that drastic short of war that is questionably possible to do or not?

1) Hand over Israel the remaining Arab lands (because as it stands a viable state can't be created)
2) War it out one final time and settle the question

# 1 will never be agreed to by the Palestinians and certainly not by Hamas. Our problems is we cannot unite under one banner to become much more powerful than just 3 Arab states. War is the ONLY thing these people believe it and watch how they scurry the minute a plastic rocket is tossed at them (or even a rock) and the Russians will tell you the Iron Dome is **** or rubbish with the appropriate cruise missiles. So let's see the Arabs you called on, Egypt, Saudiya, UAE (which at this point is in a royal dilemma after signing the normalization act without visa requirements which for the life of me I can never figure out why on God's green earth they would EVER allow that. @Abu Dhabi , please enlighten me as to why the UAE agreed to allow an unlimited amount of Mossad agents to enter into the UAE without visas?! They have two motives and only two motives and one is to get closer to Iran physically and the other is they've figured out your extensive weapons programs and guaranteed they will find ways to sabotage them. I am dumfounded at that TBH, bro.

@PakFactor , two solutions. Immediate proposals from the regional leaders Saudi, Egypt, UAE, Turkey is a MUST, Algeria (although they don't like to participate in this so the hell with them and Pakistan because of how much the US needs its support for after the US withdrawals and draw up a framework to propose to the US to end the Israeli home thievery and destruction IMMEDIATELY or sever all diplomatic ties with the US. That will either embolden the US or if it's presented in a proper but assertive manner, it could very well work but war independently as you suggested, won't work.

 

[The SC]

Arm them with what, exactly? Be specific because this is not as simple as you young men think you have the solutions to such a complex situation that has FAR reaching consequences. Small arms? Kalashnikovs? RPG's? They have all that or you want us to give them Rafales and F-16s? You see how that hatred from the original post I quoted was the epitome of hypocrisy?

The real shame is the lack of world media and outrage that would force the powers that are capable of stopping this to do something about it.

Still waiting for the Israeli members to respond to my tagged question.

Maybe Pakistan can smuggle in a few Nasr tactical nuclear missiles..and that will solve the problem..So the Palestinians can say to Usrael..either you give us our land or we will blow you up to pieces..And Usrael can do nothing about it since it will be an inside matter.. so They will be between a hard rock and a very hard place..for once..

Would that be feasible? Because any conventional small weapons the Arabs can give are not a match for the IDF..

 

[Gomig-21]

Maybe Pakistan can smuggle in a few Nasr tactical nuclear missiles..and that will solve the problem..So the Palestinians can say to Usrael..either you give us our land or we will blow you up to pieces..And Usrael can do nothing about it since it will be an inside matter.. so They will be between a hard rock and a very hard place..for once..

Would that be feasible? Because any conventional small weapons the Arabs can give are not a match for the IDF..

That is EXACLTY why I mentioned Pakistan/ We don't have any nuclear deterrence so if Israel even thinks that thought, then they will know if Pakistan has joined the Frey, it's an even deterrence but too bad many Palestinians will die in the process and we would live under radiation for almost 100 years but an eye for an eye would make them think twice about being wiped out entirely. That is, of course, if Pakistan is willing to engage. Emran Khan seems like the possibility he would enter the frey

 

[The SC]

That is EXACLTY why I mentioned Pakistan/ We don't have any nuclear deterrence so if Israel even thinks that thought, then they will know if Pakistan has joined the Frey, it's an even deterrence but too bad many Palestinians will die in the process and we would live under radiation for almost 100 years but an eye for an eye would make them think twice about being wiped out entirely. That is, of course, if Pakistan is willing to engage. Emran Khan seems like the possibility he would enter the frey

The Nasr missile is a 60 km range small TACTICAL nuclear missile.. so it will be just inside Usrael with no consequences on the neighbors whatsoever..

 

[Gomig-21]

The Nasr missile is a 60 km range small TACTICAL nuclear missile.. so it will be just inside Usrael with no consequences on the neighbors whatsoever..

There you go, come on Pakistan join us to help the Palestinians and then let's see what we can do or what you want for support in Kashmir. You keep saying we don't care about it but we do to a certain extent and we can only support you diplomatically as we have absolutely no reason to go to war with India. But this is what will do it very quickly but we need good.....no.....sorry, excellent leadership to organize this. But remember, any movement or threat of nuclear power comes with an incredible amount of opposition. You would see every single US fleet parked in the Mediterranean just outside of Israel's shore but it will most certainly send the message! Stop the filthy Israeli butchery and give the entire west bank back to the Palestinians and then we negotiate on who controls security of the Jewish religious temples and a full stoppage on the filthy Israeli land stealing and return and rebuild every singel house they destroyed. It's about time Israel got the LOWER hand.

 

[xyx007]

May be muslims feel shame after reading this tweet

https://twitter.com/x/status/1390636410449940480

 

[mqur1963]

There you go, come on Pakistan join us to help the Palestinians and then let's see what we can do or what you want for support in Kashmir. You keep saying we don't care about it but we do to a certain extent and we can only support you diplomatically as we have absolutely no reason to go to war with India. But this is what will do it very quickly but we need good.....no.....sorry, excellent leadership to organize this. But remember, any movement or threat of nuclear power comes with an incredible amount of opposition. You would see every single US fleet parked in the Mediterranean just outside of Israel's shore but it will most certainly send the message! Stop the filthy Israeli butchery and give the entire west bank back to the Palestinians and then we negotiate on who controls security of the Jewish religious temples and a full stoppage on the filthy Israeli land stealing and return and rebuild every singel house they destroyed. It's about time Israel got the LOWER hand.

Pakistanis have no bowls they just relies gases ...paksy are slave to uncle sam and uncle sam runs by zionist jews.

 

[T-SaGe]

Malaysia, Indonesia, Iran, KSA, Algeria, Pakistan, Egypt, Bangladesh, UAE and Turkey. The big 10 of the Islamic world in terms of socio-cultural, economic, foreign missions and military. Some of these countries may have problems between them. However, we must be able to isolate our common values and areas of conflict from each other. In other words, we should develop a practice of being able to act together in our common concerns. Unfortunately, the main thing that makes Israel so daring is that we lack the ability to act together.

 

[khansaheeb]

My reply was directed at a specific post and a specific narrative.

also, different times require different measures. There is nothing HARAM to have diplomatic ties with Jews. Happened in the day of the prophet muhammed P.B.U.H

the UAE has a plan. Diplomacy to a certain end. We might succeed we might fail , but that doesnt matter. What matters is the intentions and the fact that the UAE actually did something instead of just talking.

Common sense must be used for Allah sake !! its makes no sense that the UAE chose israel againts all the arab and muslim nations "just coz" come on ..... this is just like at the work place. The employee that does the most work (diplomacy for the UAE case) always gets the harsh looks and words from his colleagues ..... human nature sad to say

A very convenient narrow selection of what our prophet (PBUH) did "nothing HARAM to have diplomatic ties with Jews.". But our prophet (PBUH) also would not accept injustices and genocide on a scale that is happening in Palestine.

 

[khansaheeb]

Turkey President Erdogan calls Israel a 'terror state' over Palestinian clashes at Masjid Al-Aqsa

 

[Philip the Arab]

Israeli nuclear weapons ensure they will be in the region for the distant future.