Israel is 'mightier' as first F-35 fighter jets arrive

[DavidSling]

Helmet is not such complicated technology , iran too builds their own helmets for the american cobras and supercobras , it's like a steam VR machine only for military use .

ABM systems are pure speculation , they have never been tested against a real adversary missile . Iran infact gets to test their missiles against western ABM's like in north korea where the THAAD has never had a chance to shoot down any NK missile yet. you arrow 2-3 and david sling have only proved themselves against the iraqi scuds americans fire for you.

I still doubt if the f-35's of the US airforce will use israeli made software .

helmet is a complicate technology, and u can't compare Elbit helmets for Iranian's, different quality

 

[Gothic]

helmet is a complicate technology, and u can't compare Elbit helmets for Iranian's, different quality

infact the iranian helmets are much more complicated to mustard , because they have to direct the chaingun of the helicopter with pilot's head move , that's not the case with the f-35.

 

[blondeturkish]

Turkey and israel are going to dominate the middle east skies

 

[DavidSling]

Turkey and israel are going to dominate the middle east skies

 

[blondeturkish]

my girlfriend is a israeli so i have a soft spot for israel

 

[Gothic]

Turkey has already dominated the skies with turkish airlines , and the f-35 is not f-22 so it will be turkey shoot if they wanna fly it over iran. and it's too classy to fly over the gaza so at best it could be used in the next lebanon war.

what no ones knows is that they gave f-35's to israel , but there will be no f-23's for israel.

 

[HAIDER]

NEVATIM AIR BASE, Israel (Reuters) - - Israel on Monday became the first country after the United States to receive the U.S.-built F-35 stealth jet which will increase its ability to attack distant targets, including Iran.

The much-hyped arrival of the first two fighter jets was overshadowed by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's tweet that Lockheed Martin's whole F-35 project was too expensive, and the delivery was delayed for hours by bad weather preventing their take-off from Italy.

The squadron is expected to be the first operational outside the United States. The planes are the first of 50, costing around $100 million each.

"Our long arm has now become longer and mightier," said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the Nevatim air base in the southern Negev desert.

U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter, also attending the ceremony which was delayed until after dark, said the planes were critical to maintaining Israel's military edge in the region.

A U.S. squadron of the planes, which have suffered delays and cost overruns, became operational in August. The F-35 program is the Pentagon's largest weapons project.

"The F-35 program and cost is out of control," Trump said on Twitter, sending Lockheed Martin's shares down 4 percent.

Jeff Babione, Lockheed Martin's F-35 programme leader, said the company understood concerns about affordability and had invested millions of dollars to try to reduce its price.

Israel, which finalised a 10-year, $38 billion arms deal from the United States this year, plans to maintain two F-35 squadrons.

Critics of the plane say it can carry a smaller weapons payload and has a shorter range than Israel's current squadrons of U.S.-built F-15s and F-16s.

But some experts say the F-35's stealth capabilities make up for this because it can be more accurate and fly a more direct route to its target. Israel's air force mostly flies missions close to home, in the Gaza Strip and against arms shipments to Hezbollah in Lebanon and Syria.

It is also believed to have carried out bombings in Sudan against arms shipments to Palestinian militants, and to have drawn up contingency plans against Iranian nuclear facilities.

Israel initially ordered 33 of the fighters but signed off on another 17 last month.

Nimrod Shefer, a retired Israeli air force major-general, said the new aircraft were a welcome addition.

"(There are) very low- to very high-altitude missiles ... and targets that are becoming more and more difficult to detect and to destroy," he said.

(Writing by Ori Lewis and Maayan Lubell; Editing by Jeffrey Heller and Robin Pomeroy)

Got on very low price, actual costing 100 million without engine. Cost of this plane is under discussion in US senate. May be coming US govt curtail the numbers. Already F35 is biggest headache for US treasury ............lolz

my girlfriend is a israeli so i have a soft spot for israel

Where ????? ...lolz

no , saudi arabia has the silent eagle , israel has messed up their planes by downgrading them with israeli electronics , iran has missiles too

Saudis has good combo of combat machine, but pilots are the issue.

 

[Gothic]

Saudis has good combo of combat machine, but pilots are the issue.

aren't their pilots trained in the US , as opposed to israeli pilots i mean

 

[HAIDER]

aren't their pilots trained in the US , as opposed to israeli pilots i mean

Yeah , but it need certain skills and traits ...which can not be developed , its in your gene ..Never heard Arab world produce any good pilots...just for rumor sake, Iraqi and Syria pilots has some good combat mission germs.

 

[500]

Helmet is not such complicated technology , iran too builds their own helmets for the american cobras and supercobras , it's like a steam VR machine only for military use .

Helmet with HMD is very complicated technology, and in case of F-35 its unique, since it also replaces the HUD. Iran has nothing, only copy of US 1970-s technologies.

the silent eagle is basically the same plane boeing has made for saudi arabia , only it's in american service

There is no single Silent Eagle operational neither in American nor in Saudi service. Stop inventing stuff.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Yeah , but it need certain skills and traits ...which can not be developed , its in your gene ..Never heard Arab world produce any good pilots...just for rumor sake, Iraqi and Syria pilots has some good combat mission germs.

Saudis has good combo of combat machine, but pilots are the issue.

This clown of whatever ethnicity (compared to Arabs amounting to almost nothing on almost every front) and his moronic posts and Arab obsession. Living in the US for God knows how many years, still almost illiterate. PDF, lol.

@The SC

 

[HAIDER]

Helmet is not such complicated technology , iran too builds their own helmets for the american cobras and supercobras , it's like a steam VR machine only for military use .

ABM systems are pure speculation , they have never been tested against a real adversary missile . Iran infact gets to test their missiles against western ABM's like in north korea where the THAAD has never had a chance to shoot down any NK missile yet. your arrow 2-3 and david sling have only proved themselves against the iraqi scuds americans fire for you.

I still doubt if the f-35's of the US airforce will use israeli made software .


the silent eagle is basically the same plane boeing has made for saudi arabia , only it's in american service

F35 has two good qualities , mission computer and VTOL. Otherwise , newer F16 or any EU top of the line plane can engage F35. Well , F22 is the beast. Which is not for sale and after 122 planes US govt is not interested in funding the program any longer.

 

[Gothic]

Only one variant of the F-35 has VTOL capabilities. See below.

and israel hasn't got that specific variant.

 

[HAIDER]

Only one variant of the F-35 has VTOL capabilities. See below.

That one I love. But why EU never built VTOL ? EU really need VTOL. UK is building huge fleet of male UAV and reducing investment toward manned vehicle.

 

[Gothic]

That one I love. But why EU never built VTOL ? EU really need VTOL. UK is building huge fleet of male UAV and reducing investment toward manned vehicle.

the VTOL f-35 will be handed to US marine corps