Israel Hijacks Aid cargo, executes hostages - Pak journo, Talat Hussain taken hostage

[Aslan]

They are not turned on Israel. They are angry at Israel because a responsible and influential country ie Turkey is angry. Had their been no Turkey, there would have been the usual condemnations against Israel and that's it.

Well that goes on to show the hypocrisy of the world that we live in today, that if you have some power you get your voice heard. You dont! then sorry buddy you have the right to be persecuted and killed at will.

 

[Aslan]

IDF troops shown bleeding in Turkish press - Israel News, Ynetnews

Turkish press shows bleeding Israeli commandos. IDF says vindicates their actions.

And that will justifies the point blank shooting of people?

 

[Aslan]

Spokesperson's Office expressed its satisfaction with the Turkish newspapers' decision to publish the photos. "This is clear proof of Israel's repeated claims, that the boat was carrying mercenaries, whose sole purpose was to kill the soldiers.

"The images could have been different, had the soldiers chosen to shoot any civilian who approached them. Thanks to their strength and deep understanding of the event, the Navy Commandos managed to distinguish between a peace activist and a terrorist."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3899513,00.html

The above is what the News paper article had to say!
I think this proves Fisks point well!

But whoops! At least the Israelis have not demanded ransom. They just want to get journalists to win the propaganda war for them. Scarcely had the week begun when Israel's warrior "commandos" stormed a Turkish boat bringing aid to Gaza and shot nine of the passengers dead. Yet by week's end, the protesters had become "armed peace activists", vicious anti-Semites "professing pacifism, seething with hate, pounding away at another human being with a metal pole". I liked the last bit. The fact that the person being beaten was apparently shooting another human being with a rifle didn't quite get into this weird version of reality.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...th-behind-the-israeli-propaganda-1991803.html

 

[sraja]

Check out the pictures of peace terrorists mob trying to lynch, beating up Israeli soldiers.

Photos from Turkish magazine Hurriyet

Ýsrail'in sildiði Fotoðraflar / 1 - Hürriyet

 

[sraja]

Turkish paper shows 'censored' photos of bloodied Israeli commandos
Posted : Sun, 06 Jun 2010 09:05:19 GMT
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Istanbul - One of Turkey's largest daily newspapers Sunday published photos of bloodied Israeli commandos from last week's botched raid on a Gaza aid flotilla that the paper said had been originally censored by Israel.

The series of photos in Hurriyet show Israeli commandos beaten and bleeding on the Mavi Marmara, a cruise ship bought by a Turkish NGO that led the flotilla where nine people were killed and dozens injured during last Monday's raid.

One of the photos in the newspaper shows an injured commando being led down into the ship, while another shows two passengers standing by a door holding metal bars.

According to Hurriyet, the photos were recovered after being erased by Israeli authorities from a memory card belonging to a passenger.

A statement released by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the "published pictures serve as clear and unequivocal proof of Israel's repeated arguments that aboard (the Mavi Marmara) were mercenaries who intended to kill Israeli soldiers."

"The photos would have looked different if the soldiers had chosen to shoot every citizen that came their way," the statement said.

The flotilla incident has led to a crisis in the relationship between Turkey and Israel, once close allies, with Turkish officials threatening to review or even cut diplomatic ties.

Turkish officials have also called for Israel to apologize for the incident, something Jerusalem has said it will not do.

Turkish paper shows 'censored' photos of bloodied Israeli commandos | Earth Times News

 

[Spring Onion]

Terrorist state of Israel and their supporters :tubdown:


Israel immediatly took to Youtube for spreading lies

 

[mjnaushad]

The thing is not That they retaliate. Attacking in International waters is act of war. Can't you put this in your empty minds. Who gave them the right to attack that ship in the first place.??

 

[rameez ahmed]

Check out the pictures of peace terrorists mob trying to lynch, beating up Israeli soldiers.

Photos from Turkish magazine Hurriyet

Ýsrail'in sildiði Fotoðraflar / 1 - Hürriyet

this is what the Israeli deserves to be treated like... at least some soldiers were treated in the way they treat Palestinians...

By the way they were peace activist... But if in international waters , any one aboard my ship illegally in the way Israeli did, I will definitely react in some way to save my ship.. Anybody will react in that way so save their property.....

that is what the activist did and they had every right to do so because this pathetic act of Israel was PIRACY ....

Israel can't defends itself with these pictures because the dead bodies of activists are the example of Israeli terrorism.... They even killed a nineteen year old boy. And one man was shot in head...

If Israel wanted to fire , they would have fired on legs or hands.. but in many cases they shoot point blank in the forehead.....

Israel terrorism is not at all justified and you Indians should stop supporting them......

 

[Ahmad]

sraja, if i start punching you, you will surely retaliate.

 

[Solomon2]

Based on the facts that we now have - which could change -in my opinion some people on that ship were out to create trouble...But that is not the issue. In Jallianwallah Bagh in 1919, the crowd was obviously breaking the rules. The end result - hundreds of civilians (who were breaking the law)killed, not one British Army soldier dead...When we celebrate the Dandi March and Jallianwallah Bagh as stirring chapters in our Independence struggle, it then is not possible, for me, to defend the Israeli action.

This is one of the most interesting responses I've read yet! Have you considered, then, that Arabs' celebration of the Dandi March and Jallianwallah Bagh is part of the problem?

 

[Solomon2]

Q&A: Is Israel's naval blockade of Gaza legal?

(Reuters) - Israel has said it will continue a naval blockade of the Gaza Strip despite growing global pressure to lift the siege after a navy raid on a Turkish ferry carrying aid killed nine activists this week.

What is the legality of the blockade and did Israel's intervention breach international law? Below are some questions and answers on the issue:

CAN ISRAEL IMPOSE A NAVAL BLOCKADE ON GAZA?

Yes it can, according to the law of blockade which was derived from customary international law and codified in the 1909 Declaration of London. It was updated in 1994 in a legally recognized document called the "San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea."

Under some of the key rules, a blockade must be declared and notified to all belligerents and neutral states, access to neutral ports cannot be blocked, and an area can only be blockaded which is under enemy control.

"On the basis that Hamas is the ruling entity of Gaza and Israel is in the midst of an armed struggle against that ruling entity, the blockade is legal," said Philip Roche, partner in the shipping disputes and risk management team with law firm Norton Rose.

WHAT ARE INTERNATIONAL WATERS?

Under the U.N. Convention of the Law of the Sea a coastal state has a "territorial sea" of 12 nautical miles from the coast over which it is sovereign. Ships of other states are allowed "innocent passage" through such waters.

There is a further 12 nautical mile zone called the "contiguous zone" over which a state may take action to protect itself or its laws.

"However, strictly beyond the 12 nautical miles limit the seas are the "high seas" or international waters," Roche said.

The Israeli navy said on Monday the Gaza bound flotilla was intercepted 120 km (75 miles) west of Israel. The Turkish captain of one of the vessels told an Istanbul news conference after returning home from Israeli detention they were 68 miles outside Israeli territorial waters.

Under the law of a blockade, intercepting a vessel could apply globally so long as a ship is bound for a "belligerent" territory, legal experts say.

CAN ISRAEL USE FORCE WHEN INTERCEPTING SHIPS?

Under international law it can use force when boarding a ship.

"If force is disproportionate it would be a violation of the key tenets of the use of force," said Commander James Kraska, professor of international law at the U.S. Naval War College.

Israeli authorities said marines who boarded the Turkish vessel Mavi Marmara opened fire in self-defense after activists clubbed and stabbed them and snatched some of their weapons.

Legal experts say proportional force does not mean that guns cannot be used by forces when being attacked with knives.

"But there has got to be a relationship between the threat and response," Kraska said.

The use of force may also have other repercussions.

"While the full facts need to emerge from a credible and transparent investigation, from what is known now, it appears that Israel acted within its legal rights," said J. Peter Pham, a strategic adviser to U.S. and European governments.

"However, not every operation that the law permits is necessarily prudent from the strategic point of view."

OPPONENTS HAVE CALLED ISRAEL'S RAID "PIRACY." WAS IT?

No, as under international law it was considered a state action.

"Whether what Israel did is right or wrong, it is not an act of piracy. Piracy deals with private conduct particularly with a pecuniary or financial interest," Kraska said.

HAVE THERE BEEN ANY SHIPPING DISRUPTIONS AFTER THE RAID?

None so far but the International Chamber of Shipping (ICS), an association which represents 75 percent of the world's merchant fleet, has expressed "deep concern" over the boarding by Israeli forces, arguing that merchant ships have a right to safe passage and freedom of navigation in international waters.

"These fundamental principles of international law must always be upheld by all of the world's nations," the ICS said.

 

[Aslan]

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...k-journo-talat-hussain-taken-hostage-122.html


Spokesperson's Office expressed its satisfaction with the Turkish newspapers' decision to publish the photos. "This is clear proof of Israel's repeated claims, that the boat was carrying mercenaries, whose sole purpose was to kill the soldiers.

"The images could have been different, had the soldiers chosen to shoot any civilian who approached them. Thanks to their strength and deep understanding of the event, the Navy Commandos managed to distinguish between a peace activist and a terrorist."

IDF troops shown bleeding in Turkish press - Israel News, Ynetnews

The above is what the News paper article had to say!
I think this proves Fisks point well!

But whoops! At least the Israelis have not demanded ransom. They just want to get journalists to win the propaganda war for them. Scarcely had the week begun when Israel's warrior "commandos" stormed a Turkish boat bringing aid to Gaza and shot nine of the passengers dead. Yet by week's end, the protesters had become "armed peace activists", vicious anti-Semites "professing pacifism, seething with hate, pounding away at another human being with a metal pole". I liked the last bit. The fact that the person being beaten was apparently shooting another human being with a rifle didn't quite get into this weird version of reality.


Robert Fisk: The truth behind the Israeli propaganda - Robert Fisk, Commentators - The Independent

 

[Nononsense]

Well that goes on to show the hypocrisy of the world that we live in today, that if you have some power you get your voice heard. You dont! then sorry buddy you have the right to be persecuted and killed at will.

Agreed, has always been that way, remember in the times of undivided india, Indian soldires fought the WW2 to save France & Europe from being occupied, when they themselves were ruled by Brits.

Weak nations do not have voice lets agree!!

I condemn ISREAL here, they are wrong this time. This time their existence is not in question

 

[Aslan]

"These fundamental principles of international law must always be upheld by all of the world's nations," the ICS said.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Really nice of you to enlighten us, now by the above line can you ask your brothers in religion (for whom you are fighting heart and soul to prove their innocence), that they should hold the fundamental principles of international law and free Palestine.

 

[turkaholic]

Sraja, you keep posting this crap, but did the activists actually kill any Israeli soldiers? If the intent was that, there would have been dozens of dead Israeli commandos right now. But quite the contrary, there are 9 activists dead 5 of whom were shot in the head. You must be such a fan of Israeli terrorism.