Israel Hijacks Aid cargo, executes hostages - Pak journo, Talat Hussain taken hostage

[Pasban]

I feel this thread is getting derailed already. Can we all just get back to the main topic at hand.

Anti-Turkey protests in Israel

 

[Ahmad]

@Jana, i jsut saw an interveiw with a israeli MP who criticized the gov and said: our gov see everyting through the window of power and force, he said that is wrong and must be changed.

 

[Aslan]

Nobody picked on you or being selective against you, it was you who statred this thing and i responded to it. check your post(i think it was post 1126), you said this:

I was today watching interview of Israeli Ambasador to India in an interview with Rajdeep sardesai. He openly advocated India using such tacticts against rogue terrorism sponsoring states like pakistan. He equated hamas and other islamic terrorists groups with pakistani groups and called for joint Indo-Israeli front to counter the threats of Islamic extremisim citing the current events of storming the ships as an example.

Tell me what was the point to bring pakistan in and pin point it(is it the right word i used?)

This was posted by Ahmed in post 1183 I am dont talking to you now.

 

[Vande Mataram]

Stop the hypocrisy about Israel - CNN.com

New York (CNN) -- Enjoy hypocrisy? This past weekend you could glut the appetite.

On Monday, Israeli ships stopped a flotilla carrying materials that could be used for war, including cement that Israel maintained could be used to build bunkers, to Hamas-ruled Gaza. The crew of one boat resisted violently, triggering a firefight in which nine people were killed, most of them Turkish nationals.

Turkey is protesting vigorously. But, question: Turkey is a NATO ally, an applicant to the European Union. What is it doing allowing its nationals to smuggle cement that could build bunkers? Especially when those nationals belong to a group, the Turkish IHH (Insani Yardim Vakfi) that Israel has designated a terrorist organization?

The flotilla departed from Turkish-occupied northern Cyprus. Turkey's occupation of half of Cyprus is deemed illegal by the European Union and the United Nations. If the government of Turkey feels so strongly about ending disputed occupations, why does it not start with the disputed occupation it is operating itself?

The flotilla followed a breathtaking Friday at the United Nations. The 189 signatories of the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty agreed on a final list of resolutions for a safer world. The nuclear threat from Iran? Unmentioned. Instead, the NPT resolution targeted -- what a surprise -- Israel.

Shamefully, the Friday resolution was joined by the United States. Yes, the Obama administration issued a statement at the same time that "deplores the decision to single out Israel" and also "the failure of the resolution to mention Iran." The administration deplored -- but it signed.

The Obama administration's signature marks an abrupt departure from previous U.S. policy. Since the 1960s, the United States has accepted Israel's nuclear arsenal on condition that Israel not threaten its neighbors. Israel has more than met that condition. In 1973, Egypt outright invaded Israel, in full confidence that Israel would not go nuclear so long as Egypt stopped short of attacking Israel's cities.

It's important to understand that Israel (like India and Pakistan) has never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. So Israel's nuclear force violates no commitments or pledges: unlike, say, the nuclear programs of Syria, Libya, Iraq and Iran, to name just four of the Middle Eastern countries that have been caught violating the NPT.

Iran by contrast is violating the NPT. Iran is the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism. And Iranian leaders have threatened to use the nuclear weapons they are seeking to annihilate Israel.

On Monday, the International Atomic Energy Agency reported that Iran has accumulated enough nuclear material for two bombs, when fully enriched. And the latest round of U.N. sanctions will do nothing to stop that bomb, because they omit the most crucial measures:

• A ban on exports of gasoline to Iran (Iran now imports half its gasoline)

• Measures to sever Iran's central bank from the global payments system

The measures adopted by the Security Council last week are not only toothless, but they even contain a loophole legalizing the sale of Russian air defenses to Iran, the better to protect nuclear facilities from action by the United States or Israel.

OK, so maybe it is not news that the U.N. system is hypocritical and useless. What is news is this: The Obama administration has broken with 40 years of precedent and has affixed its signature to a document suggesting that it is Israel's weapons -- not Iran's -- that ought to be priority No. 1 in the Middle East.

And now, post-flotilla, the Obama administration stands in danger of being drawn into the attempt to open Hamas-ruled Gaza to military-capable imports, and to force Israel to engage in some kind of negotiation with Hamas.

Former Ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk, who is close to Obama administration thinking, outlined in the New York Times Monday the contours of just such a deal:

"The administration needs to work on a package deal in which Hamas commits to preventing attacks from, and all smuggling into, Gaza. In return, Israel would drop the blockade and allow trade in and out."

It's a pretty thought. Pro-Hamas groups did not go to the trouble of organizing a flotilla of supplies that could be used for war in order to end smuggling of war material into Gaza.

Nor are pro-Hamas groups seeking to ship the material into Gaza in order to thwart future attacks on Israel. Rebuilding Hamas' bunkers is not a step toward peace.

But as with the Obama administration's joining the anti-Israel resolution at the United Nations on Friday, followed by after-the-fact explanations that Israel had nothing to fear, so the Obama administration is now being drawn into another anti-Israel action, again cushioned by assurances that, "This is for your own good."

Monday morning, ABC'S Jake Tapper reported an unnamed administration official promising "no daylight" between the United States and Israel.

But the same administration official who promised "no daylight" also told Tapper: "The president has always said that it will be much easier for Israel to make peace if it feels secure." Meaning: first we soothe you, then we squeeze you?

David Frum writes a weekly column for CNN.com. A special assistant to President Bush in 2001-02, he is the author of six books, including "Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again" and is the editor of FrumForum

 

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[Aslan]

france ban shame after hijab??????? you have some shame ppl die for show some thing?[/QUOTE]

people die because they meant to be dead......it was the pre-determined strategy....otherwise you tell me why these people died....i they really wanted to pass on the aid they could have followed some other route.....the sole purpose was staged drama to let people be killed and than make FUZZZZZ....all around the world...

and by the way if you speak for france...i want to make some think clear to you read below...

france never asked arabs to ban burqa in saudi.....if france bans burqa it bans in FRANCE..and not in saudi...so leave it on to FRANCE...they can even ban Muslims...or Jews....or anybody it is FRANCE.....do not care for France....
I love FRANCE...and what ever the French Government do it is for the French and not for Jews, Saudis ...etc

People died because they were killed by those cold blooded murderers. Well then your country still dont think that they were wrong in killing all those Algerians, and also the bombing of Damascus during its colonial times. And israel is an illegitimate child of the west. So of course some of you will shamelessly defend her.

 

[Spring Onion]

Stop the hypocrisy about Israel - CNN.com

Only zionists are coming in support of Terrorist State of Israel and this BS proves it.


Check the neutral media there was nothing on the flotilla which could be used in war.

And what a laughing claim that Cement was on the ship which could be used in war hypocrit terrorists and their supporter terrorists

 

[T-Faz]

Bastards are laughing and threatening on TV, I especially hate the spokesman for the Israeli prime minister.

What a shameless nation that acts holier and mightier than others not realising that there servant is the reason why.

As for that faggy Israeli ambassador to India taking BS, tell him to grow a pair and attack Pakistan tonight.

Let's see what happens, let's how if these cowards have the gut, all I see them do us bark like a dog with no actions to go with that. The only actions occur are those aginst weaker disadvantaged groups.

 

[Aslan]

Stop the hypocrisy about Israel - CNN.com

And it never hit that clown who wrote that article that the cement is also used for building houses, houses that were destroyed by the pews when they attacked Gaza. And by the way in order to build the bunkers you dont only need cement, you need alot of other things. But then again if the Palestinians were to build their houses again then the pews would have had to destroy them again. So it was extra work for them, of course you guys are right how can the Palestinians do that. How can they force the pews into extra hard work. Also the Palestinians dont deserve to build their houses do they now.

 

[Spring Onion]

For how long IsraHell continue murder of humanity ?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

*** REAL? SHYT REAL OR PISS REAL?PIG REAL
Cowards. killers of humanity. barbarians..... terrorists .... attack innocent on ships 70 miles outside even the waters of GAZA?

 

[Ahmad]

For how long IsraHell continue murder of humanity ?

as long as shameful administartions like america support them unconditionally.

 

[Spring Onion]

Bastards are laughing and threatening on TV, I especially hate the spokesman for the Israeli prime minister.

What a shameless nation that acts holier and mightier than others not realising that there servant is the reason why.

As for that faggy Israeli ambassador to India taking BS, tell him to grow a pair and attack Pakistan tonight.

Let's see what happens, let's how if these cowards have the gut, all I see them do us bark like a dog with no actions to go with that. The only actions occur are those aginst weaker disadvantaged groups.

These terrorists will go hand in hand. They tried their level best but their uglyness is so visible they cant hide it

 

[Wounded Healer]

116. If, after visit and search, there is reasonable ground for suspicion that the merchant vessel flying a neutral flag or a civil aircraft with neutral marks has enemy character, the vessel or aircraft may be captured as prize subject to adjudication.

The "enemy character" was established by the welcome Israeli troops received. Perhaps the Israelis should keep the boats and their cargoes? These are matters for a prize court. link

Mr.Solomon2,

I have always respected you and your point of view, but what you are trying to prove here is beyond me.

The fact of the matter is that Israel soldiers attacked a civilian boat in international waters. Of course, the occupants of the said boat had to defend themselves which they did with sticks and rods, and then Israel's soldiers opened fire on them. And now you are trying to justify what the Israelis did? There is no justification, there is no excuse. Innocent people were killed and that is the end of that.

Nothing you say will change the truth. Simply put, it was a very badly managed operation by Israel, but you are too proud to admit it.

May God forgive the Israelis, because we will not.

regards,

 

[Aslan]

as long as shameful administartions like america support them unconditionally.

Add to that also their slaves who rule our countries with their support.