Iggy
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Mine too...
Jew town in my home town !
Not mine i only work here ...
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Mine too...
Jew town in my home town !
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India has fought in International wars before
Care to elaborate? Which international wars has India been a part of? You don't mean the WWs, do you?
when your nation wakes up and comes to reality and accept the existance of israel....
when people like you wake up and see that INDIA is not the INDIA of 1947 anymore and accept that INDIA is developing and there is nothing you can do to stop it,,,,,,,then you might be able to comprehend the reality of the world.....
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Nice article but you stretched it too far there. Your lack of research is evident...
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...however there are certain realities and factors which only points to the merits of self denial...
Thank you for this thoughtful reply. I agree with you on all counts: I did not do much research (after all, this is just my opinion), and secondly, your statements regarding India's relationships is also correct. (Internal relationships with minority groups, and relationships with middle east)
I think the premises of my original statement may yet be valid. Ultimately, I think Israel needs India more than vice versa (in the long run). Worse still is that fact that right now Israeli partnership may not appear as bad as it really is. Moreover, getting so deep with USA/UK/Israel stunts India's own growth and development.
BRIC is really the way to go, if people could just get over border issues.
I do mean the WW's, though, India was not India back then. So you may feel free to strike this example from the record. I think a partnership with the West, that will be consumated by deeper strategic ties with Israel, may end up making India more indebted towards fighting wars not their own. This is *obviously* the intention of USA/Israel in regards to India.
In the WW's, the big 'allies' used Aus and Canadian troops as fodder -- sent them on most dangerous missions, etc. Israel and USA want to have a new nation with a powerful army to fill the same role. It's naked self preservation. It's a serious risk for India to ally so closely with these types of nations. (With friends like these . . . who needs enemies?)
USA dearly needs a buffer state to occupy China's efforts once China comes rinning on USA's doorbell and asking for the money USA owes. Israel is always on the look out for other people to do the dirty work for them.
India, since independence, has done much work for the UN in peace keeping. This is not the same thing as fighting in a war. I think the point I was trying to make was lost in my post -- which was underfocused and a bit rambling.
India has a lot to gain from relationship with Israel. India also has a lot to lose as well. (Specifically, India may feel pressured by 'new friends' to fight wars not their own; similar to how Indians fought in previous WW's.)
In my part of the world, a saying roughly translated reads,Ignorance is bliss, then? Self-denial could be useful, though I think a more progressive stance and openess of new information advances thought. After all, we don't think that the sun revolves around the earth anymore. We don't consider south of spain to be arab lands anymore. We don't consider wooden ships with cannons to be top of the line anymore. We don't consider women to be property, right?
Lines on a map are redrawn many times over the ages. What should remain true is the goodness of people. Unfortunately, what appears to be more true is that bad people exist in every nation.
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I apologize if my words were too harsh..
Worse still is that fact that right now Israeli partnership may not appear as bad as it really is
What does that mean exactly?
Moreover, getting so deep with USA/UK/Israel stunts India's own growth and development.
How is that? You mean India would fail to develop its own industry if it continues to buy from these countries? Surely ToT and co-development models can take care of that. The same way they have done with Russian equipment.
BRIC is really the way to go, if people could just get over border issues
Hit the nail on the head there.