Israel: Desert into Farmland

[Beny Karachun]

Non semitic European squatters uprooting olive trees of native semitic population:

Apparently it's perfectly legal. May I ask, are your security forces using civilian settlers to monitor and uproot unauthorised trees these days?

PS those olive trees are much older. I have an olive tree and over 3 years the bastard hasn't even gown an inch! Perhaps it's North England weather? I could genuinely do with some isreli expertise actually.

Palestinians plant olive trees and construct buildings inside area C in order to try and claim it, if they can do that then our citizens can also destroy them.

No they aren't, 3 year old olive trees would need to be 1-1.5 meter in height, 10 year old olive trees would be 3-5 meters high, the trees in the video you sent me aren't older than your olive tree.

And yeah, olive trees are definitely not fit for English weather, way too cold, not enough sun.

 

[Foinikas]

Imagine if Pakistan could do this in Baluchistan.

It's better to nag about Palestine and get votes from the lower classes

 

[COOKie LOOkie....]

It's better to nag about Palestine and get votes from the lower classes

Easier to hide behind this rhetoric than to show their incompetence in delivering.

 

[Beny Karachun]

There are more than just 100 soldiers tho. lol and u know that.

Yeah, 20 more.

US pulls military personnel from Israel, urges Americans not to travel

The United States has withdrawn 120 military personnel from Israel and is advising Americans to reconsider any travel plans to the region amid an escalating bloody conflict.

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I know my statistics lol, I live here and I've met with some American soldiers.

They are good people living a normal life who are glad to be here. Idk how both isrealies and Palestinians get along so well in US.

And calling them terrorist , they call you by the same words. its like US and Pak calling Al qaeda and taliban terrorist knowing the fact they created them. the same can be said about Isreal. both sides are gonna have to sacrifice for making peace otherwise rockets are gonna fall on your side and bombs dropping on theirs.

Who told you we get so well? some do, most don't, Palestinians attacked Israelis many times in the US, Canada and Europe.

Well except that Palestinians are literally Jihadists that called for our destruction for many years now and have committed thousands of terror attacks against us including suicide bombings, beheading of babies, launching of rockets at our cities, mass shootings etc, whereas our "terror" is bombing the rocket launching sites and the killing of terrorists that stab/throw molotovs/throw rocks/shoot at Israelis.
Peace is just a delusion at this point.

 

[Trango Towers]

Good job. I tasted pomegranate from Israel the previous year, and they were very very sweet.

Don't touch anything Israeli....

 

[COOKie LOOkie....]

Yeah, 20 more.

US pulls military personnel from Israel, urges Americans not to travel

The United States has withdrawn 120 military personnel from Israel and is advising Americans to reconsider any travel plans to the region amid an escalating bloody conflict.

nypost.com

I know my statistics lol, I live here and I've met with some American soldiers.


Who told you we get so well? some do, most don't, Palestinians attacked Israelis many times in the US, Canada and Europe.

Well except that Palestinians are literally Jihadists that called for our destruction for many years now and have committed thousands of terror attacks against us including suicide bombings, beheading of babies, launching of rockets at our cities, mass shootings etc, whereas our "terror" is bombing the rocket launching sites and the killing of terrorists that stab/throw molotovs/throw rocks/shoot at Israelis.
Peace is just a delusion at this point.

They surprising do get along here. If u ever visit You can see the communities living her together. yes there maybe such incidents.

I am not here to take sides. They share the same stories of Israeli forces doing the same war crimes. Dropping JDAMs on houses and buildings with civilians inside. So far i have heard your side of the story it takes two to tango so i really dont believe that isreal is completely innocent and there is plenty of photographic data that can back their claims.
The sad part is that the palestinians are not well educated enough people and they are being used as tools for foreign hands. taken advantage of their ignorance, same can be said about afghans used by talibans.

And if you back in years yall share the same skin divided by religion and politics. so i wont go there.

 

[Foinikas]

Easier to hide behind this rhetoric than to show their incompetence in delivering.

Of course! Instead of learning a bit from the Jews' ingenuity,they just nag and nag. Besides,it's not just the Israelis who managed this,the Emiratis and some others there have turned parts of their countries into farmlands.

Of course they had crazy funding,but still...countries like Greece and Pakistan and some others...we just have politicians who fight for elections and not for the good of the country.

 

[flameboard]

some people like to pretend they entered a desert and made it green, but they forget that they burned down down villages, farmland, trees and crops to claim “the desert”

They murdered and pillaged the people that had kept these fields green naturally

 

[terry5]

Terrorist state growing on stolen land .
Palestinians have been growing on that land for centuries .

 

[fitpOsitive]

Don't touch anything Israeli....

Our forces can, mujahideens can, then why cant we?

 

[Trango Towers]

Our forces can, mujahideens can, then why cant we?

I go to my grave you go to yours. I won't help these bastrds with even a dime

 

[TheSolution]

Seriously dude enough with this palestine bs they dont want to sit together themselves and here we are fighting on their sides. What has palestine or israel done for pakistan. Why should pakistan care.
Its a doggy dog world out there. No one cares about anyone.

Two reasons for this:

1. Arab hegemony in Islam, they have the control of a lot of the narrative. Counter this by building national and ethnic pride that goes along with Islam.

2. Low quality education, with low accessibility, in Pakistan.

The human rights abuses in Israel are condemnable but there must be some serious issues if you as a Pakistani rant more about Israel than even Kashmir.

 

[Foinikas]

The human rights abuses in Israel are condemnable but there must be some serious issues if you as a Pakistani rant more about Israel than even Kashmir.

I don't remember hearing a Palestinian online talking about Kashmir. Maybe they have,but I don't remember. I used to wear a kuffiyah almost day,supported and still support the Palestinians' right to their own State with the pre-1967 borders. I remember when I used to watch documentaries back in 2002-2006 I was furious with all the Israeli atrocities. Of course,I wasn't completely biased,but I was still furious at the arrogance and violence of the Israelis.

But you know,you start growing up,you start reading a bit more,watching more documentaries,videos,talk to people,start drawing your own conclusions. The Palestinians too did a lot of horrible things and were extremely stubborn in negotiating. I mean,you had Hamas morons saying they wouldn't stop until all of Palestine was freed. And then,they started fighting each other.

I mean,that's it. If they can't realize after 60 years of failed struggle,that they have to change and find another way to get their independent State,what's the point?

Same way,at first in the early 2010s I thought India was ok,India was cool,alright...Pakistanis are pro-Turkish and mostly conservative Muslims,Indians are brave and more open to other cultures etc.

And then...I started talking with Indians online. And became more pro-Pakistani

 

[TheSolution]

I don't remember hearing a Palestinian online talking about Kashmir.

I don't entirely blame them because Kashmir isn't as known as Palestine is, in the Muslim world. It was once in the past, but it died down.

The reason Palestine is so well-known and invokes the feelings of the Muslim world is because of the connection to the Jews, the holy city of Jerusalem, and the backing of the entire Arab world.

Whereas Kashmir doesn't have this, so it's understandable.

But you know,you start growing up,you start reading a bit more,watching more documentaries,videos,talk to people,start drawing your own conclusions. The Palestinians too did a lot of horrible things and were extremely stubborn in negotiating. I mean,you had Hamas morons saying they wouldn't stop until all of Palestine was freed. And then,they started fighting each other.

Yeah, Black September comes to mind where people try to use that to even malign Pakistan because of our support to Jordan.

Black September - Wikipedia

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Same way,at first in the early 2010s I thought India was ok,India was cool,alright...Pakistanis are pro-Turkish and mostly conservative Muslims,Indians are brave and more open to other cultures etc.

And then...I started talking with Indians online. And became more pro-Pakistani

Haha, what was your experience with Indians like?

A lot of negative sentiment surrounding Pakistan partially emanate from during the time of the war on terror and current militancy, and then massive targeted campaigns from India too. There are simply too many of them littered everywhere doing their best to malign our image. And of course our own who don't help much either with their actions.

But we do have a healthy respect for other nations if our ties are good, and we are open to other cultures just not parts that go against our own core values.

The idea that we don't like anyone who isn't Muslim is just Indian-propagated due to their insecurities, we have strong ties with American and European states, and they only somewhat deteriorated because of America not being consistent in the relationship. And today we have positive relations with China who don't even believe in any religion.

 

[Foinikas]

The reason Palestine is so well-known and invokes the feelings of the Muslim world is because of the connection to the Jews, the holy city of Jerusalem, and the backing of the entire Arab world.

Yes. For some reason news and stories about Kashmir don't come out so much in the rest of the world. Also,the Palestinians got more attention because of the Arab-Israeli wars too and the whole place being close to Europe and Africa. I agree with you.

Haha, what was your experience with Indians like?

A lot of negative sentiment surrounding Pakistan partially emanate from during the time of the war on terror and current militancy, and then massive targeted campaigns from India too. There are simply too many of them littered everywhere doing their best to malign our image. And of course our own who don't help much either with their actions.

It was like talking to rural areas people from the '70s. The mentality,the spam,the stupidity. They used to get angry as soon as someone even criticized something about India. Various Pakistanis spammed too of course,but the Indians would ask dumb questions and spam irrelevant links and posts. I was admin in a group on Facebook. There used to be a lot of fighting between Pakistanis and Indians. There's a thread you can check here "Planet India"

A lot of negative sentiment surrounding Pakistan partially emanate from during the time of the war on terror and current militancy, and then massive targeted campaigns from India too. There are simply too many of them littered everywhere doing their best to malign our image. And of course our own who don't help much either with their actions.

They forget that Musharraf fought against them and Pakistan was trying to defend against constant attacks back in the 2000s.

The thing is,I see here some people that whenever someone mentions Jews or Israelis specifically,they go nuts.

On this thread too,as you can see. Everything Israeli or Jewish makes them crazy. They can't even see things from their side too a bit. Like,imagine you lived in Israel,not as a settler,as someone in a city or wherever. And you oppose the occupation. But you have a gazillion Mullahs threatening to annihilate you. I mean...that doesn't exactly contribute to peace.

Of course they've treated Palestinians like animals for decades with the checkpoints and all that...

But instead of seeing the good things,like this farmland...or the ingenuity the Israelis have for finding solutions in war or how smart they are...these guys just mock them and underestimate them.