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Israel Army's Next-generation armored personnel carrier (APC)

Merkava-4 is definitely a very good platform, and should I say the sexiest beast among them all! Yup that includes the T-90 and out Arjun MBT:woot:
Gambit, what do you think about the Merkava-4 as compared to the Leclercs, Challengers, Leopards, the Abrahms and the T-90. Have you ever ridden in a Merkava?
Why don't the Israelis export the Merkava when everything else is on sale?
Sorry...Not a 'tank' guy. But I did hitched a ride on an Abrams once in ReFORGER.
 
I'll ask u americans about bravery and courage the day a daisy cutter explodes on chicago university killing ur children as u do in the tribal areas of pakistan killing kids aging from 10-15 years.


or you mean like planes flown into towers full of civilians?

hen u spend ur life without belief, have u ever analysed how many of u americans are believers? for you people GOD is a fashionable myth, just another word, have u ever noticed how u potray jesus in ur movies and cartoons? if a muslim would have done that in a muslim country to the jesus he would have been hanged by the muslim govt for that.

yes thats true. thats why you're all a bunch of mindless zealous. the freedom to express one's self is inherent in democracy. this is a demonstration of how it has come to pass that your civilization, once the greatest in the world, has fallen into such decay that its nearly archaic. repression of expression leads to the inability to think, freely or clearly. you're just as mindless as the worst nazi, the worst barbarian. completely incapable of free or rational thought.

of course the best argument is your own big guy - you'll note you went on a mindless rant that didn't address one single point i brought up. i made you look like a fool, so you tried to change the subject. the subject under discussion was your flagrant and amusingly obvious disregard for telling the truth.

again - you cant drive bank tanks with rocks. if you claim to have won against the well armed Israeli army to the point where they have to buy more tanks, you are obviously lying about having only rocks to through.

i don't separate Hezbollah and the Palestinians because Hezbollah draws their fighters, houses their fighters, and keeps their armaments and funds among the Palestinians. to separate them is entirely theoretical, and meaningless to the guys on the ground. it's a quaint tactic to try to seperate them but just a subtle lie, instead of a flagrant one.

the rest of the post really isn't worth replying to, its chalk full of the usual propagandist crap thats utterly meaningless.
 
I'll ask u americans about bravery and courage the day a daisy cutter explodes on chicago university killing ur children as u do in the tribal areas of pakistan killing kids aging from 10-15 years.


or you mean like planes flown into towers full of civilians?

hen u spend ur life without belief, have u ever analysed how many of u americans are believers? for you people GOD is a fashionable myth, just another word, have u ever noticed how u potray jesus in ur movies and cartoons? if a muslim would have done that in a muslim country to the jesus he would have been hanged by the muslim govt for that.

yes thats true. thats why you're all a bunch of mindless zealous. the freedom to express one's self is inherent in democracy. this is a demonstration of how it has come to pass that your civilization, once the greatest in the world, has fallen into such decay that its nearly archaic. repression of expression leads to the inability to think, freely or clearly. you're just as mindless as the worst nazi, the worst barbarian. completely incapable of free or rational thought.

of course the best argument is your own big guy - you'll note you went on a mindless rant that didn't address one single point i brought up. i made you look like a fool, so you tried to change the subject. the subject under discussion was your flagrant and amusingly obvious disregard for telling the truth.

again - you cant drive bank tanks with rocks. if you claim to have won against the well armed Israeli army to the point where they have to buy more tanks, you are obviously lying about having only rocks to through.

i don't separate Hezbollah and the Palestinians because Hezbollah draws their fighters, houses their fighters, and keeps their armaments and funds among the Palestinians. to separate them is entirely theoretical, and meaningless to the guys on the ground. it's a quaint tactic to try to seperate them but just a subtle lie, instead of a flagrant one.

the rest of the post really isn't worth replying to, its chalk full of the usual propagandist crap thats utterly meaningless.

OOOUUUCCCHHH, that must have hurt you badly, right?:what:

Fooling me? yes i could be fooled, i am a human being, but not this time atleast, why don't u think the other way round?:azn:

did i say they only use rocks? i said they started intefada after 20+ years of barbarism of jews, please go through my post again.

Had nazis been in power for another couple of years then we won't be talking about this problem anymore, u r intelligent(U CLAIMED TO BE) so please don't ask me why.:flame:

FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION?

i already mentioned how "FREE" ur society is, i was expecting this answer from you.

i am blessed with enough understanding by the ALMIGHTY that i can talk to you on this matter upon factual grounds as much as u desire, thats why i am on this forum, i'd prefer not to speak instead of changing the topic.

don't fryout, take a good sleep, wakeup, read my post again and again, talk to some wise men in ur neighbourhood(if any), and then post an answer here.

SWEET DREAMS...:lazy:

by the way, watch the video clip posted by ARSENAL_GOONER before talking about the bravery of israeli soldier, who in ur opinion disengage when they see unarmed civilians...shame for these soldiers and those who advocate for them...
 
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alright, you want to speak on a factual basis about freedom of expression?

to quote "have u ever noticed how u potray jesus in ur movies and cartoons? if a muslim would have done that in a muslim country to the jesus he would have been hanged by the muslim govt for that."

you want to explain how you can claim that someone would have been hanged for expressing somethign while simultaneously claiming to have freedom of expression?


"Had nazis been in power for another couple of years then we won't be talking about this problem anymore, u r intelligent(U CLAIMED TO BE) so please don't ask me why"

seriously? you just joined up with the agenda of the Nazis and you expect to be taken seriously?

finally, if you aren't the one claiming, as in the original posts, that the Palestinians have only rocks, then you aren't the one being addressed. and if you aren't the one trying to change the subject, then why are you bringing up the sexual habits of American girls? unless of course you can link that to the tactical needs of these Israelis for a new apc...

if you can't link the sexual habits of American teen girls to the Israeli armies need for a new apc, I'm going to have to just call you a liar like the rest, for bringing it up in the first place, then trying to claim you aren't changing the subject.
 
hmm....going to have to call bullshit on the video as well. see, for the explosion to have been that big, it would have destroyed the camera - you know the one sitting right where the shell "hit"? see the video says that someone had a highly sophisticated digital camera - one capable of showing slow action capture of the tank shell IN THE AIR - in the exact spot the shell that knocked a kid 30 feet away out for six hours was - and yet the camera remains miraculously able to show its digital media later. so anyone want to explain how the concussion of a HE round was so big it knocked out the kids - but wasn't big enough to to knock out the camera that was closer to the explosion?

go ahead....tell me about your alteration of physics.
 
Man I can only imagine what pain you Palestinians goes through.. i know freedom is a must. If not because of M Ali Jinah we wold have been in a similar situation like Palestine. I love pakistan and I hope to live till that day when Palestine gets its freedom.

Similar situation? There are still many muslims living in india. Why don't you care to ask them? :)
 
how utterly unsurprising that the morons had nothign to say after being called out.

Your camera thing is quite true, so how do you explain these videos were taken?

Honestly I feel sorry only for the innocent Palestinians, they are very good people. I had some of the best friends in Ukraine as Palestinians.

But terrorism in any form and the sponsors of terrorism should be wiped out from the face of earth..
 
Your camera thing is quite true, so how do you explain these videos were taken?

Honestly I feel sorry only for the innocent Palestinians, they are very good people. I had some of the best friends in Ukraine as Palestinians.

But terrorism in any form and the sponsors of terrorism should be wiped out from the face of earth..


Well I only ask, how they were able to show a slow-motion clip of the shell? I mean I don't know exactly how fast a tank shell travels but I can be damn sure that it travels faster than a normal video camera would be able to record it so clearly.

EDIT: If you consider that a normal camera's shutter operates at approximately 24 fps and if I am to guess that a tank shell travels at at least 120 mph, well then this begs the question: How is it that we were able to see the tank shell? It should have just been a blur... And the heat trails behind the projectile just screams out 'After Effects' to me.

This is of course assuming that the cameraman didn't have a high speed camera. However I somehow highly doubt that they did.
 
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