Israel Air Force to Participate in U.S. Drill Alongside Pakistani, U.A.E. Jets

[GiG]

shame for PAF for particapting with an Airforce which is killing Palasteniens regularly

 

[Skywalker]

shame for PAF for particapting with an Airforce which is killing Palasteniens regularly

would you please stop acting like a kid here, emotions don't work in international politics, by your standard we should even be exercising with USA either yet we are doing it on a regular basis and you have no issues, so kindly keep your childish thoughts with you.

 

[The Eagle]

Great times ahead. Way to go guys. An ideal situation and an opportunity to learn more and polish the skills.

People opposing participation only due to Israel should not forget that such boycott wouldn't bring anything but loss of an opportunity for learning and moreover, it will let us have a sight into many of everyone's tactics as well.

 

[IceCold]

shame for PAF for particapting with an Airforce which is killing Palasteniens regularly

Ohh please. The world does not work like that. I suggest you lay off from the moral high horse of yours and smell the coffee. The whole bloody Middle East including SA is in bed with Israel. We on the other hand dont even accept them as a country despite the fact that we have no quarrel with them, not in way we have with India, yet Pakistanis dancing on indian tunes, their music, films, bollywood actors and actresses. Lets not be hypocrites for once.

 

[Areesh]

According to RED Flag 16-4 tentative flagsheet on reddit.com/r/aviation_ a private sub reddit run by military aviation enthusiasts including some USAF personnel; the Israeli and PAF contingents will be on separate team with different objectives; PAF and Spanish F-16s will be part of Escort team which will fly together with interdiction team of strike aircraft to provide cover to them.
Whereas Israeli F-16s will be part of the SEAD team.Situation on UAE is unclear.Last year Israeli F-15s formed part of Red Team Air.

This is not surprising at all as this can also be seen in the currently ongoing Russian Army Games 2016 where both India and Pakistan are participating but are in different exercises, India is participating in Tank and Sniper exercises whereas Pakistan is in MANPADs exercise.

This bharati bandariya is frustrated. Telling us about what India is doing and would do even when nobody is interested. Frustration is high.

@Windjammer

 

[IceCold]

Yes you are right and valid observation ,Infact IAF was very much dependent on 3rd party system to do this ,information here is from 2012 and after that they have participated

IAF pilots shared tactical information with RAF pilots in their formations using radio communications since the IAF's data-link system (which shares critical sensor data with friendly aircraft) was not compatible with the Link 16 system in use with NATO aircraft like the Typhoon.
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indian-air-forces-top-guns-score-wins-in-the-uk-1204336

Indigenous software makes Su30-MKI more compatible
AGENCIES Aug 23, 2008, 04.21pm IST

NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force software experts from Bangalore based Software Development Institute (SDI) indigenously developed software patches to make Su30-MKI avionics compatible with NATO operational philosophy.

This wholly indigenous effort has saved valuable foreign. The IAF is participating in the exercise Red Flag, which is an advanced aerial combat training exercise hosted at Nellis Air Force Base, Nevada in USA.

Frontline Indian Sukhoi fighters are pitted against US and NATO air forces' F-16s and F-15s in complex and advanced network centric operations -- the toughest test for flying machines and men.

"The SDI software has made the Su30-MKI platform more versatile and compatible with other Air Forces," said Wing Commander JS Gavankar, Software Engineer from SDI presently with the IAF contingent at Nellis.

The avionics software developed by the SDI has reduced the cockpit workload and has assisted in increasing the pilots situational awareness multifold, said Wing Commander J Singh, Flt Cdr of 20 squardon.

IAF technicians ensured a very high availability of aircraft for all exercise related requirements, during exercise Red Flag despite scorching heat and average tarmac temperatures above 50 degrees Celsius during flying hours. The exercise concludes its operations on August 23.

During extreme heat conditions there is a tendency of the flying machines to develop snags such as leaks in hydraulic systems, engine oil, gear box etc. The performance of avionics system also becomes erratic as integrated circuits develop problems in extreme heat conditions.

However due to proper planning and hard work of IAF technicians, aircraft serviceability was kept high at all times.

Appreciating the IAF technicians Colpnel Corey, Maintenance Commander of USAF base Nellis said: "IAF has maintained amazing serviceability rate in a sustained manner during the entire exercise. This is because of in-depth planning, knowledge and focused approach of the maintainers."

Wing Commander JD Kapoor, Senior Engineering Officer of 20 Squardon said that IAF technical practices and systems are comprehensive and well defined and meticulous adherence to these have ensured high tarmac availability that allowed aircrews to perform their missions.

In some cased there were reports of IAF using AWACS to vectored there positions to enemy which resulted in many simulated losses in one of the excercise . So inorder to real time train Nato compatability plays an important part ,may be the reason JF17 left behind

Thanks for the detailed reply. If i am not wrong i think PAF also developed some sort of third party solution to have some sort of data link between JF-17s, SAAB Erieye and the F-16s. But never the less a solution is possible which can make JF-17 compete in international arena such as Red Flag.

 

[Windjammer]

This bharati bandariya is frustrated. Telling us about what India is doing and would do even when nobody is interested. Frustration is high.

@Windjammer

The reality is that although sometimes the news does leaks out but unlike others PAF never tells stories related to cricket scores.

 

[Blue Marlin]

they may be going some training with the f35.
courtesy of john mccain......

 

[Areesh]

The reality is that although sometimes the news does leaks out but unlike others PAF never tells stories related to cricket scores.

And also never gets embarrassed by other air forces for such unprofessional behavior.

 

[GiG]

would you please stop acting like a kid here, emotions don't work in international politics, by your standard we should even be exercising with USA either yet we are doing it on a regular basis and you have no issues, so kindly keep your childish thoughts with you.

Ohh please. The world does not work like that. I suggest you lay off from the moral high horse of yours and smell the coffee. The whole bloody Middle East including SA is in bed with Israel. We on the other hand dont even accept them as a country despite the fact that we have no quarrel with them, not in way we have with India, yet Pakistanis dancing on indian tunes, their music, films, bollywood actors and actresses. Lets not be hypocrites for once.

Vision of PAF:"To be among the most respected Air Force of the world."
and respect is only earned on high moral grounds

Isreal is committing genocide of Palestine people if our forces cant save them then they should also not some fancy drills with the isrealis

 

[Skywalker]

a

Vision of PAF:"To be among the most respected Air Force of the world."
and respect is only earned on high moral grounds

Isreal is committing genocide of Palestine people if our forces cant save them then they should also not some fancy drills with the isrealis

And what is to do with us, the sooner this country come out of this umma crap the better, we have done enough in the past and got nothing in return.

 

[Areesh]

@Areesh the pakistani kutiya has wet his pants after a dose of reality.

Only in bharat kutiya wear pants while millions of humans have nothing to wear.

Don't worry bharati bandarya. Umkar Narray might be dead, you can make someone else from TTP as your father.

 

[Ghazwa e Hind]

Haaretz is a propaganda tool of Israeli establishment. Don't believe on what they report!
I think Israelis will back off if this is true.

 

[volatile]

Thanks for the detailed reply. If i am not wrong i think PAF also developed some sort of third party solution to have some sort of data link between JF-17s, SAAB Erieye and the F-16s. But never the less a solution is possible which can make JF-17 compete in international arena such as Red Flag.

You are correct that is called National solution and termed as Link 17 its a wider concept May i suggest if you have not gone thru to check quwa for more ,reason F17 is not part of such exercise yet is more reliable solution as in real war time scenarios every second counts

 

[The Eagle]

Haaretz is a propaganda tool of Israeli establishment. Don't believe on what they report!
I think Israelis will back off if this is true.

The same news is also reported by another source as follows.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/pakistan/0...pate-in-us-drill-alongside-pakistani-uae-jets