So after all that abuse & drama, it's back to doing collabs just like with pmln/ppp/ptm. Then they & their poodles have the audacity to question why the awaam is furious at them & is supporting IK.
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Who's to say what's anti-state and what isn't? I disagree with your view here. And I think that soon you'll find ARY being the recipient of the old anti-state tag, given the current political dynamic. I personally don't call either of them anti-state though.
Unless we're talking about TPP/BLA types or separatists, being called "anti-state" in Pakistan might be a badge of honour. Even as far back as the 50s, people who spoke against the system that was being imposed were called traitors, names including political giants like GM Syed, AK Fazlul Haq, Suhrawardy, etc. These were actual poltiicans for the most part, not the spawn of dictators and generals' nurseries.
On topic - IMO, we're enough indoctrinated as a nation and could possibly do without yet another ISPR drama. Hell, I don't even know why ISPR is what it is. Only in Pakistan does everyone know who the COAS is, who the intel chief is and who the chief spokesman of the armed forces is.... all without ever knowing who the poor sod ("Minister") in charge of the MoD is.
Right now IK is going against the narrative of his own state, would you call him anti-state? Can state narratives be wrong? Is it really treacherous to criticise your state in all circumstances? If the answer's "no". Then let's revert to the previous question? Who gets to decide what's anti-state and what isn't, I'm not worthy of judging anyone of that, hence I refrain.Mohtaram
So if some entity goes against the narrative of its own state, would you call it anti state? On top of that GEO is one of the groups who have received foreign funding as a document from National Endowment for democracy has revealed.
GEO media group has constantly gone against the state narrative and that is why it was banned for many years in military stations and officers' mess around the country.
Zaheer ul islam episode was one of many examples.
So, some of us have legitimate grounds to call GEO anti state. Now collaborating with a such an entity is questionable.
Right now IK is going against the narrative of his own state, would you call him anti-state? Can state narratives be wrong? Is it really treacherous to criticise your state in all circumstances? If the answer's "no". Then let's revert to the previous question? Who gets to decide what's anti-state and what isn't, I'm not worthy of judging anyone of that, hence I refrain.
Geo was banned for criticising the military in exactly the same way as IK is accusing them right now, ditto for the Zaheer ul Islam case, although he never once appeared before the courts despite many hearings.
Also, your claim about national endowment seems muddled up, the NED is the one who does int'l funding, they don't expose others' funding. So which incident are you referring to? A lot was said about Geo funding around 2014, nothing at all came of it. If all it takes is accusing or calling out sitting generals of meddling, to be called anti-state, then a good chunk of the polity, plus the ex-PM and his party have gone way beyond that already. So let's be consistent here.
Make a play in which you actually try to brainwash people that there is no sifarish in army. There is no corruption. But doing that you are instilling the opposite in youth. Your worship like appriciation for pma wont work. Neither the fake way of showinh how kind you are to minorities. While in reailty they can only work as cleaners in pma. .
So after all that abuse & drama, it's back to doing collabs just like with pmln/ppp/ptm. Then they & their poodles have the audacity to question why the awaam is furious at them & is supporting IK.
5th gEneRAtiOn wARfaRe
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Right now IK is going against the narrative of his own state, would you call him anti-state? Can state narratives be wrong? Is it really treacherous to criticise your state in all circumstances? If the answer's "no". Then let's revert to the previous question? Who gets to decide what's anti-state and what isn't, I'm not worthy of judging anyone of that, hence I refrain.
Geo was banned for criticising the military in exactly the same way as IK is accusing them right now, ditto for the Zaheer ul Islam case, although he never once appeared before the courts despite many hearings.
Also, your claim about national endowment seems muddled up, the NED is the one who does int'l funding, they don't expose others' funding. So which incident are you referring to? A lot was said about Geo funding around 2014, nothing at all came of it. If all it takes is accusing or calling out sitting generals of meddling, to be called anti-state, then a good chunk of the polity, plus the ex-PM and his party have gone way beyond that already. So let's be consistent here.