Isolating President Musharraf, new campaign

[opinion786]

Asif ticks off Aitzaz

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

NAUDERO: PPP Co-chairman Asif Zardari is reported to have ticked off Aitzaz Ahsan in an after-dinner gathering of the PPP’s Central Executive Committee (CEC) members in Naudero on the subject of the restoration of the judges, independence of the judiciary and the threatened long march by Aitzaz and his supporters. According to sources present on the occasion, Zardari took Aitzaz to task for constantly threatening to launch a long march to force parliament to restore Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry and the other deposed judges.

Zardari advised Aitzaz to go ahead with his long march if he was so keen on it instead of constantly threatening the PPP about it. He told Aitzaz that he was wrong to think that the lawyers movement had forced General Pervez Musharraf to take off his uniform or hold the elections. He said that honour belonged to Benazir Bhutto who had compelled Musharraf to do so and paid for it with her life. He said the entire credit for restoration of democracy went to Ms Bhutto and Aitzaz and the judges and lawyers could not rob her of her victory.

Zardari also reminded Aitzaz that while he was incarcerated for eight long years none of these heroic judges had given him justice, even when he had asked for one day’s reprieve to attend a funeral of a close relative.

Zardari is reported to have said that Justice Chaudhry had politicised himself overtly and ruined his case as an advocate for an independent judiciary. He also cited other instances when some of these judges had not conducted themselves with any degree of integrity or independence in the past. Aitzaz tried a feeble defence but could not deflect Zardari’s irritation. “I thought Aitzaz would get up and leave but he just sat there,” said the source. staff report

 

[HAIDER]

Asif ticks off Aitzaz

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

NAUDERO: PPP Co-chairman Asif Zardari is reported to have ticked off Aitzaz Ahsan in an after-dinner gathering of the PPP’s Central Executive Committee (CEC) members in Naudero on the subject of the restoration of the judges, independence of the judiciary and the threatened long march by Aitzaz and his supporters. According to sources present on the occasion, Zardari took Aitzaz to task for constantly threatening to launch a long march to force parliament to restore Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry and the other deposed judges.

Zardari advised Aitzaz to go ahead with his long march if he was so keen on it instead of constantly threatening the PPP about it. He told Aitzaz that he was wrong to think that the lawyers movement had forced General Pervez Musharraf to take off his uniform or hold the elections. He said that honour belonged to Benazir Bhutto who had compelled Musharraf to do so and paid for it with her life. He said the entire credit for restoration of democracy went to Ms Bhutto and Aitzaz and the judges and lawyers could not rob her of her victory.

Zardari also reminded Aitzaz that while he was incarcerated for eight long years none of these heroic judges had given him justice, even when he had asked for one day’s reprieve to attend a funeral of a close relative.

Zardari is reported to have said that Justice Chaudhry had politicised himself overtly and ruined his case as an advocate for an independent judiciary. He also cited other instances when some of these judges had not conducted themselves with any degree of integrity or independence in the past. Aitzaz tried a feeble defence but could not deflect Zardari’s irritation. “I thought Aitzaz would get up and leave but he just sat there,” said the source. staff report
Today 03:06 PM

All i can say " ooooopppsss"

 

[Interceptor]

Conspiracy carries on!

 

[mujahideen]

I agree with you, however, you are misinformed unfortunatly, the Parliment can not start inquiry however it can essemble a commitee in this matter that would inquire. But the real instution that inquires is the Judiciary and a free judiciary does not need the PM's decisions, accept a aproval from them to start an enquiry without a free judiciary there are no checks or balances on the government.
Bhutto enquiry I want to see it happen and read its details(maybe in the future when democracy is strong), his family was close friends of Jinnah family, when Pakistan was created and when Zulfikar Ali Bhutto returned to Pakistan Fatima Jinnah use to have regular visits to Bhutto house. She said he will be a great leader for this nation and it happened.

As far as I am concerned the following inquiries need to happen.
-Inquiry into the death of Laiquat Ali.
-Inquiry into the coup by Field Marshall Ayub Khan, why was he asked to take over.
-Inquiry into what happened in East Pakistan.
-Inquiry into why General Zia took over.
-Inquiry into our real role in the Soviet War.
-Inquiry into who really killed General Zia.
-Inquiry into what went wrong with our democracy in the 1990s.
-Inquiry into the attack on the Supreme Court by Nawaz and his goons.
-Inquiry into the coup by General Musharraf.

Now in my opinion all these inquries are very importan. But again these are things of the past lets move on. I mean who cares if Parliament apologizes of Bhutto's death, he wont come back. The only inquiry we should have is how to better learn from our mistakes of the past and try not to make them again.

 

[fatman17]

Asif ticks off Aitzaz

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

NAUDERO: PPP Co-chairman Asif Zardari is reported to have ticked off Aitzaz Ahsan in an after-dinner gathering of the PPP’s Central Executive Committee (CEC) members in Naudero on the subject of the restoration of the judges, independence of the judiciary and the threatened long march by Aitzaz and his supporters. According to sources present on the occasion, Zardari took Aitzaz to task for constantly threatening to launch a long march to force parliament to restore Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry and the other deposed judges.

Zardari advised Aitzaz to go ahead with his long march if he was so keen on it instead of constantly threatening the PPP about it. He told Aitzaz that he was wrong to think that the lawyers movement had forced General Pervez Musharraf to take off his uniform or hold the elections. He said that honour belonged to Benazir Bhutto who had compelled Musharraf to do so and paid for it with her life. He said the entire credit for restoration of democracy went to Ms Bhutto and Aitzaz and the judges and lawyers could not rob her of her victory.

Zardari also reminded Aitzaz that while he was incarcerated for eight long years none of these heroic judges had given him justice, even when he had asked for one day’s reprieve to attend a funeral of a close relative.

Zardari is reported to have said that Justice Chaudhry had politicised himself overtly and ruined his case as an advocate for an independent judiciary. He also cited other instances when some of these judges had not conducted themselves with any degree of integrity or independence in the past. Aitzaz tried a feeble defence but could not deflect Zardari’s irritation. “I thought Aitzaz would get up and leave but he just sat there,” said the source. staff report

sounds like a personal issue between the two - i am sure the PPP hiarchy has a different view.!

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan's Musharraf increasingly isolated: analysts

ISLAMABAD (AFP) — Pakistan's army is speeding up the transfer of power to the country's new civilian government, further isolating embattled US anti-terror ally President Pervez Musharraf, analysts say.

Musharraf, who seized power in a bloodless coup in 1999, is confronting a hostile coalition government that won elections in February in the latest see-saw between army and civilian rule in Pakistan's 60-year history.

But in a departure from previous years when ministers visited the army chief, current military supremo General Ashfaq Kayani came to new premier Yousaf Raza Gilani's residence on Wednesday for a security briefing.

Later the same day Kayani, who succeeded Musharraf as army chief in November last year, replaced a key confidant of the president as head of the crucial Military Intelligence unit.

"It is another step that isolates President Pervez Musharraf. He is increasingly isolated by the new political power set-up," general-turned-defence-analyst Talat Masood told AFP.

"It shows the times are changing in Pakistan. I think that it is the first time the COAS (chief of army staff) went to the PM house for such a briefing to the political leaders, showing that now the army is now prepared to promote democracy," he said.

Kayani vowed earlier this year to pull the army out of politics and began by ordering the withdrawal of officers from key government and bureaucratic roles in early February.

Analysts said that the most important step came when the military and its associated spy agencies did not meddle in the February 18 elections, which took place amid widespread expectations that they would be rigged.

"The revolution was more when Kayani said publicly that the army wants free and fair elections," leading newspaper columnist and political analyst Shafqat Mahmood told AFP.

He said the meeting on Wednesday was "symbolic, in a sense, that the power has transferred from military side to civil side."

"The army played a role it is supposed to play in democracy. In the elections army and its intelligence remained aloof," former army chief General Mirza Aslam Beg told AFP.

Wednesday's visit also showed that the army agreed with Gilani's call for political solutions to the wave of Islamist violence spreading from the troubled tribal areas bordering Afghanistan into Pakistan's big cities.

"The threat of this insurgency is also making the armed forces realise that it is important to promote democracy," Masood said.

The apparent harmony between the army and the new government should reassure Washington, which has been watching anxiously to see if the new administration will remain committed to fighting Al-Qaeda and Taliban militants.

But the real test for the army will come if the new government decides to go head-to-head with Musharraf by reinstating around 60 judges sacked by the president under a state of emergency in November.

Musharraf purged the judiciary when it looked like the Supreme Court was about to overturn his re-election as president -- but if the old judges return then he could find his position under threat.

"The army role will become important when the issue of the judiciary comes up, only in this sense that if Musharraf tries to get the army involved, I think they will say no," Mahmood said.

Former army chief Beg agreed.

"The armed forces' role is defined in the constitution, it is the politicians who forced army into politics and tempted them to take over in the past. But I think they (army leaders) have learnt a bitter lesson," he said.

"In 1989 (in the first turbulent year of Benazir Bhutto's government) they came to me and invited the army to intervene. I said, 'Sorry, God bless you.'"

 

[moha199]

May Allah help Pakistan now look a new great door of democracy and their civilized manners.........Is this is what Pakistan was waiting for? Waiting for stupid morans like these? What! and WoW!


KARACHI, Pakistan: An ousted ally of President Pervez Musharraf has been hit with a shoe in a Pakistani provincial assembly dominated by supporters of slain ex-leader Benazir Bhutto.

Monday's assault in the Sindh provincial assembly is a sign of the political tension in Pakistan since the opposition trounced Musharraf's supporters in February elections.

Members of Bhutto's party heckled Arbab Ghulam Rahim, the former provincial government chief, as he was taking the oath as a lawmaker. Protesters scuffled with police escorting Rahim back to his car, and a man wielding a shoe struck him on the temple. He did not appear to be injured.

 

[Majnun]

Asif ticks off Aitzaz

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

NAUDERO: PPP Co-chairman Asif Zardari is reported to have ticked off Aitzaz Ahsan in an after-dinner gathering of the PPP’s Central Executive Committee (CEC) members in Naudero on the subject of the restoration of the judges, independence of the judiciary and the threatened long march by Aitzaz and his supporters. According to sources present on the occasion, Zardari took Aitzaz to task for constantly threatening to launch a long march to force parliament to restore Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry and the other deposed judges.

Zardari advised Aitzaz to go ahead with his long march if he was so keen on it instead of constantly threatening the PPP about it. He told Aitzaz that he was wrong to think that the lawyers movement had forced General Pervez Musharraf to take off his uniform or hold the elections. He said that honour belonged to Benazir Bhutto who had compelled Musharraf to do so and paid for it with her life. He said the entire credit for restoration of democracy went to Ms Bhutto and Aitzaz and the judges and lawyers could not rob her of her victory.

Zardari also reminded Aitzaz that while he was incarcerated for eight long years none of these heroic judges had given him justice, even when he had asked for one day’s reprieve to attend a funeral of a close relative.

Zardari is reported to have said that Justice Chaudhry had politicised himself overtly and ruined his case as an advocate for an independent judiciary. He also cited other instances when some of these judges had not conducted themselves with any degree of integrity or independence in the past. Aitzaz tried a feeble defence but could not deflect Zardari’s irritation. “I thought Aitzaz would get up and leave but he just sat there,” said the source. staff report

Maza aya. Aitzaz is the greatest traitor to Pakistan since ZA Bhutto.

 

[Majnun]

Even if Musharraf leaves, he'll at least be satisfied that he played a big roles in bringing democracy and prosperity back to Pakistan.

 

[mujahideen]

Musharraf ready for 'reduced powers'

ISLAMABAD (Agencies) - A cabinet minister is mediating between the government and President Pervez Musharraf to reach a consensus over a constitutional amendment that will reduce him to a figurehead following US pressure on the ruling coalition to not impeach the former army general, reports Sify News. “The president has agreed to work even with the reduced powers,” an official at the Presidency told Indian news agency IANS on condition of anonymity.
The official said a cabinet minister was mediating between the government and Musharraf. He added that the President had conveyed to the ruling coalition that he would not interfere in administrative matters.
The US has played a crucial role in convincing the coalition partners not to move an impeachment motion against Musharraf. However, US officials John Negroponte and Richard Boucher, who recently visited Pakistan, were told that the President would be reduced to a titular head.
To be called the 18th Constitutional Amendment, the new package will be introduced during the next session of the National Assembly and take away many crucial powers of the President.
Sources said the constitutional package is being given final shape by a committee of Pakistan Peoples Party and Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz legal experts.
The provisions of the Charter of Democracy signed between former prime minister and head of PML-N, Nawaz Sharif, and PPP Co-Chairman Asif Ali Zardari would be followed by the coalition. According to the charter, the government will restore judges and will make the parliament independent and sovereign, which means Musharraf will not enjoy the powers he had since he overthrew Nawaz’s elected government in 1999.
Sources said there were some differences over the mechanism for restoration of judges between the two major coalition partners but they have been resolved.
The package will also determine the status of the steps taken by Musharraf after he imposed emergency in the country on Nov 3, 2007. The draft package says that the power of the President to dissolve the National Assembly under Article 58(2)b of the Constitution, appoint provincial governors and services chiefs, impose governor’s rule in any province or declare a state of emergency would be withdrawn.
After the removal of Article 58(2)b, the President will not be able to impose emergency. The power for the appointment of governors will be transferred to the Prime Minister while high-ranking army officers will also be appointed through the Premier’s orders.
Sources added that the package would also support the National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO) and ensure that it could not be challenged in any court. The NRO introduced by Musharraf provided amnesty to assassinated former prime minister and PPP Chairperson Benazir Bhutto as wells as several leaders of her party. Some of the politicians granted amnesty under the NRO are members of the new cabinet.
The constitutional amendment will also propose some judicial and jail reforms while relief packages for lawyers and judges have also been included in the package.

The Nation

 

[Anxious for Pakistan]

Which is fine but let him finish his 5 years. If beyond article 52B repeal, they still go for his head then its nothing but revenge of the gunja. There would be a negative reaction to the Musharraf head hunting from the Army.

Why should he be allowed to complete 5 years without getting confidence vote from newly elected Govt. If he get the confidence vote from the current govt. then he should stay for five years.

He promised before elections that he will get confidence vote from parliment after elections.

Musharraf is the well known person for breaking promises.

 

[fatman17]

Even if Musharraf leaves, he'll at least be satisfied that he played a big roles in bringing democracy and prosperity back to Pakistan.

do u really think our history will be written in glowing terms for musharraf? i think not! just look back at our history and see what we have done to our heroes!!

 

[mujahideen]

Muharraf is the well known person for breaking promises.

Alright you tell me which politician in Pakistan is known for keeping his promise. Name one person, the answer no one.