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Anti-mosque protests on the rise
By Liz Goodwin

Opposition to the construction of mosques has skyrocketed in cities and towns across the country, scholars and advocates of Muslim culture tell The Upshot.
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Public protests against three planned mosques have made news in the past week: Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin joined others in opposing the building of a mosque a few blocks from the World Trade Center site. Hundreds demonstrated against a proposed mosque in a small town in Tennessee (pictured above). And some residents of Temecula, California, are opposing the local Muslim community's plan to build a bigger mosque, saying it could become a hotbed of radical Islam.
Professor Akbar Ahmed, the Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University's School of International Service, is not surprised by the recent spate of public protests. He spent last year traveling to more than 100 mosques in 75 U.S. cities with a team of researchers, and concluded that opposition to mosques, including some attacks on them, is on the rise.

"Everywhere there's a mosque, there's a tension now," Ahmed says.
Ahmed believes most Americans have little idea what goes on inside the approximately 2,000 mosques in the country, which leads to fear and anti-Muslim sentiment. Comments from public figures like Sarah Palin exacerbate the problem, he says.

Palin posted Sunday on Twitter that a planned mosque near the World Trade Center site would "stab hearts." She joined a PAC and family members of some 9-11 victims in vocally objecting to the religious center. "Peace-seeking Muslims, pls understand, Ground Zero mosque is UNNECESSARY provocation; it stabs hearts. Pls reject it in interest of healing," she wrote. (In addition to the mosque, the 13-story, $100 million project would include a swimming pool, gym, and performance space open to everyone, reports ABC News.)
"Sarah Palin's comments again were saying implicitly that mosques are associated with violence and terrorism," Ahmed says, though he adds that he thinks the tension over this proposed mosque is unique due to the "raw wounds" of the 9/11 attacks. "At the highest level, even in America, we have a [former] vice presidential candidate, she can openly make a statement like this."
Palin defended her statements in a post on Facebook, saying that she is all for religious freedom and tolerance, but that not building the mosque near Ground Zero is an issue of "common moral sense."[this religious bigot almost became a vice president :oops:
im Zogby, the head of the Arab-American Institute, a nonprofit research group, said there are not enough people in public life defending American Muslims' right to worship.

"There is very little counter-thrust in the public debate, and the result is, I think, Muslims are becoming increasingly concerned about their security in the country," Zogby says. "This is a worrisome environment. Something's got to give."

Opponents of mosques feel freer now to openly object to the presence of a mosque in their community, says Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim advocacy organization.

"Mosques used to face opposition in the past, but it was usually couched in terms of opposition to parking or traffic," Hooper says. "But you know, it's only recently, I think, that people feel comfortable expressing their bigotry so openly."

Of course, opponents of mosques do not consider themselves bigots, and many are genuinely concerned that mosques may help produce homegrown terrorists. According to the Washington Post, 34 Americans have been charged by U.S. authorities since January 2009 with direct involvement in international terrorism. But in many of these case, it appears the suspects were radicalized via Internet contacts.

Ahmed says the incidents of Americans turning to jihad is a reflection of a "failure in Muslim leadership." He says Muslim religious leaders should have to be trained and certified, since they are in positions of power, often over young congregations. But he adds that opposing mosques at home will only fuel accusations from America's enemies that the country hates Islam and Muslims.

A pastor opposed to the proposed Temecula mosque reflected these fears of homegrown terrorism.

"There is a concern with all the rumors you hear about sleeper cells and all that. Are we supposed to be complacent just because these people say it's a religion of peace? Many others have said the same thing," Pastor Bill Rench told the Los Angeles Times.

Others say their opposition is a matter of pragmatism. Stephen Schwartz, a convert to Islam and the founder of the nonprofit Center for Islamic Pluralism, opposes the building of the mosque near the World Trade Center, calling it an "unnecessary and misguided attempt at conciliation." He says that Muslims should not build big new mosques in the country because it will stoke tensions with the non-Muslim community.

"The problem that emerges is that these projects, when they are ambitious and large, set off a certain sector of the American people," Schwartz says. "I think that's very unfortunate but it is reality. Muslims should take that into account and should understand that building large mosques right now will be problematic."

Some opponents of the mosque in Tennessee have told local news outlets they think people will learn jihad inside the mosque's walls, though the local Muslim community has had a smaller mosque in the town for years without incident.

Several hundred people in Tennessee took to the streets of Murfreesboro last week to protest the local Islamic Center's 15-acre land purchase. They were met by a counterprotest of equal size.

"In Islam, a mosque means 'We have conquered this country,' " one man told a local CNN affiliate. "And where are they? They're in the center of Tennessee. They're going to say, 'We have conquered Tennessee.' "

A plan for a separate mosque was tabled in another town in Tennessee this year after public opposition, reports the Tennessean.

Ahmed visited the site of a mosque in Columbia, Tennessee, that had been burned down and vandalized with painted swastikas in 2008, while researching last year.

"The local tiny Muslim community was in a state of shock because most of them were born in America and had lived very happily in the small community," he says. "People say, 'Go back home,' and they say, 'Where do we go? This is our home.' "
 
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I don’t see any reason to protest if a mosque is being built in any country (be it India or US) unless they break the rule of the land. The problem is not with the number mosques or size of it…what matters is that it should not fall into wrong hands. It’s the duty of true believers to make sure that no one utilizes those places for dirty works.
 
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I don’t see any reason to protest if a mosque is being built in any country (be it India or US) unless they break the rule of the land. The problem is not with the number mosques or size of it…what matters is that it should not fall into wrong hands. It’s the duty of true believers to make sure that no one utilizes those places for dirty works.
one can always manipulate facts to burp a disgusting rhetoric. the matter at hand isn't only confined to the construction of mosques rather a social anxiety, discrimination, and prejudice against Muslims & their freedom to profess Islam.
 
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one can always manipulate facts to burp a disgusting rhetoric. the matter at hand isn't only confined to the construction of mosques rather a social anxiety, discrimination, and prejudice against Muslims & their freedom to profess Islam.

But taking in to light the international events from 2001 to now , hardly any one can say that this outburst is pre planned?? Also little has been done by the authorities which i think is the case here since they could have played the role of soothing hand. If we read the article carefully Mr.Hooper says that previously it was a few that too about car parking!!

Also i don't think this is so prevalent since if so American media would have erupted with this. However Ms.Palins actions seems to be like our local politicians cheap tactics to garner public image :agree:
 
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One Mosque and that Whole Area Will be Made a Muslim Ghetto.Arabi-istan in the Centre of Modernity!Later,the Surrounding Area Will be Deprived to Locals ,So Much that You Will have Anmjem Chaudhary Like Peaceful People Who Will Test the Patience of the Locals?
Muslim Populations in Europe: The Sharia Invasion | Farid Ghadry
IMHO ,Those Who Want to Impose Their Will on Others Must stay back from the Free,Secular Non-Muslim Countries.Simple.
But ,Moderate Muslims ,or those Who have Historically Co-existed with Non-Muslims Peacefully from Countries like India(who tends to be relatively more secular) are Not going to be the Majority in such Areas they want to build Mosque in US.

I'm sure Middle Eastern,Pakistanis etc will be the Ones Who Will Want to stay there.They Will then Dictate the Freedom of Expression,Freedom of Speech in the Respective Countries.Look at What Happened to Theo Van Gaugh:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh_%28film_director)

muslim-murderer-of-theo-van-gogh-has-no-regrets
 
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^^^^None of them from America thought. And for the record, Anjem Choudary belongs to the fringe fanatics and many muslim groups have asked and requeted the UK govt. to jail him or deport him. And none of these people ever had control over mosques, that is why they had to give thier speeches outside in public spaces as no mosque would allow him permission to do so.

Similarly you have the Hizb Tahrir where many mainstream muslim groups haev asked that it should be banned but still western countries don't saying its freedom of speech. Then the media organisations showthese fringe fanatics on TV rather than the boring peaceful mainstream muslims.


In almost every terror investigations done involving muslims, it ws shown by investigators that mosques were never the place were the planned or congregated. They are usally friends places and private learning groups and they get radicalised over the Internet.

So mosques will actually help in countering extremists group by enforcing mainstream traditional Islam.


And Theo van gogh, I totally condemn his murder. They are hate laws and muslims shoudl have used hate laws to prosecute him which would have been a better outcome. But the reality is that it was nto aconspiracy from all muslims living their were they sat and planned in the local mosque who will go and stab him and then planned how the stabbing will take place. An individual acting on his own did so.
 
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Pretty pathetic...the American constitution gives the right for everyone to follow any religion they want.Instead of asking Muslims to "go home" perhaps the protesters should go elsewhere as they hate the American constitution.
 
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Pretty pathetic...the American constitution gives the right for everyone to follow any religion they want.Instead of asking Muslims to "go home" perhaps the protesters should go elsewhere as they hate the American constitution.

American constitution also gives right of protest and freedom of speech.
 
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One Mosque and that Whole Area Will be Made a Muslim Ghetto.Arabi-istan in the Centre of Modernity!Later,the Surrounding Area Will be Deprived to Locals ,So Much that You Will have Anmjem Chaudhary Like Peaceful People Who Will Test the Patience of the Locals?
Muslim Populations in Europe: The Sharia Invasion | Farid Ghadry

IMHO ,Those Who Want to Impose Their Will on Others Must stay back from the Free,Secular Non-Muslim Countries.Simple.
But ,Moderate Muslims ,or those Who have Historically Co-existed with Non-Muslims Peacefully from Countries like India(who tends to be relatively more secular) are Not going to be the Majority in such Areas they want to build Mosque in US.

I'm sure Middle Eastern,Pakistanis etc will be the Ones Who Will Want to stay there.They Will then Dictate the Freedom of Expression,Freedom of Speech in the Respective Countries.Look at What Happened to Theo Van Gaugh:
Theo van Gogh (film director) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

muslim-murderer-of-theo-van-gogh-has-no-regrets
First off its not about the construction of one mosque. it's more about the increasing anti Islamic sentiments in USA.
Profiling, bashing, and lumping all Muslims into a “terrorist” speaks too bluntly of religious intolerance which prevails there.
America is known as a land of freedom & constitutional rights, Muslim are very much part of the American culture, to deny them the right to profess their religion is directly a constitutional breach. only the religious bigots and right wing political activists would try to insinuate to the American public that all Muslims are related to violent groups who want to take over America through mosques as in your case, but since you are indian so the logic behind your inflammatory rhetoric is very much understandable.
president obama in his inaugural speech said
“We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus- and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth.” He pleaded: “We cannot help but believe that the old hatreds shall someday pass; that the lines of tribe shall soon dissolve
clearly he should discard his own words & accept your presumptions. & in the end please don't make it into all about ME, ME the so called incredible India rant. the topic is about religious intolerance in America & not about "lets try to manipulate the situation by fueling hatred towards Muslims especially Pakistani's.
 
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American constitution also gives right of protest and freedom of speech.

Yes there is right to protest and freedom of speech and it is not a crime to do so....but is it desirable to use such freedom for unconstitutional and unethical :disagree:wants..
 
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Anjem Choudhry is one man out of 2 million or so Muslims in the UK. He has a handful of followers / supporters. To give him precedence over virtually every other Muslim is the tactic of a fascist Buffoon.

I have yet to come across a single Muslim who supports him; In fact, everyone I know wishes for him to be imprisoned or deported. Several Mosques have denied him (and like minded individuals) access which is why such groups just preach on street corners, handing out leaflets.

Furthermore, the notion that the whole area will turn into some sort of a ghetto due to a mosque is nothing more than a gratuitous swipe, and YOU KNOW IT!

Have you forgotten your past Indian?

London central Mosque:

Regent&
 
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Ok just saw the TV interview of Rep Peter King on Fox News this morning.

According to him the rational of not having a mosque so close to Ground Zero is " that right now US is at war with Islamic fundamentalists, so there is heightened sensitivity regarding having a mosque so near to GZ".

Apparently, these people are not against building mosques, it is the proximity of the mosque that is a concern.

Ironically enough, there are no objections to **** and adult stores that are nearby :)

Have you forgotten your past Indian?

hard to remember everything when past is thousands of years, if it was only 60 odd years old would be easier to remember. I am sure you remember yours;)
 
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Americans (i.e. Americans who are descendants of European immigrants to US/Canada) are in no position to tell anyone to "go home", simply because America is not their home - i.e. their native home. It is the home of Natives Americans, i.e. the Indians (obviously not eastern indians), etc. The Americans themselves were immigrants only a few centuries ago, the vast majority within the last 250 years.

Them telling a muslim or any other immigrants to "go home" is the same as me telling them to go home. It's absolutely stupid if you tell someone to go home from a place that's not your home either. None of them probably realize the irony.

By the way, obviously I considered the logic of those Americans who believe America is home for them but not for some other people. Most Americans are probably happy to see any other decent person making America their home.
 
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Some Americans believe the nation is founded as a Judeo-Christian country.

The nation was founded on Judeo-Christian foundations...but not as a Judeo Christian country. They are different things.
 
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