Islamic State release video showing beheading of 21 Egyptian Christians

[al-Hasani]

Do you believe Yemen and Bahrain will get worse?

Not Bahrain. The only nation that has an interest in overthrowing the Bahraini government is Iran. A country that has no access to Bahrain unlike KSA.
Most of the Bahraini protestors (contrary to popular belief) are not calling for the overthrow of the system but for more political rights and a better representation. Like in many Muslim nations. Sunnis have taken part in the protests too. Which many do not know about also.

Yemen is currently a political mess. It's such a mess that nobody wants to touch it. Western and most Arab countries are evacuating their embassy staffs. This is an obvious sign of them washing their hands and not wanting to have anything to do with the events.

Houthis are not going to last long. Zaydis only form 35-40% of Yemen's population and they have no control of areas outside of Northern Yemen. It was basically a coup d'état. Now most Yemenis are demonstrating against them and the Houthi's killed some ZAYDI protestors in Ta'izz yesterday. It's very complicated due to the tribal element and AQAP.

It's an internal conflict. Has little to do with KSA and even less so with Iran.

The good thing is that whatever happens in Yemen is hardly going to spill over to KSA as KSA has lived with a unstable Yemen for the past 50 years. There were periods in history where Yemen was much, much more unstable and nothing really happened in KSA because of that. Other than more Yemeni migrants arriving.
Back then KSA was much weaker than today. So everyone can do the math.

In short - the international community and the Arab world have let Yemen down.

It's due to the lack of solidarity in the region and various agendas.

I am not sure if the ME needs their own WW1 and WW2 to get their shit together. If this indeed is the case one can hope that something good will come out of it at least.

Anyway we are off-topic.

Don't be so ignorant. These people don't represent us and they are killing Muslims like mosquitos. I don't know why you make such an argument.

You should thank Mrs Clinton for destabilizing Libya, an otherwise stable country, just like Iraq. All of this bloodshed is on your hands.

Yes, let's blame the 1.7 billion (!) Muslims for the work of some 30.000 of the biggest anti-Muslims out there who kill Muslims (99% of all their victims are Muslims) first of all and whose actions have little to do with Islam.

Makes perfect sense. Oh, wait it does not and never did but it's acceptable anyway as Muslims are just terrorists waiting to kill any non-Muslim around them.

Evident of the current Muslim Holocaust of Europeans for instance.

 

[Serpentine]

religion of peace can you imagine Christians doing this to Muslims??
perverted and wrong. just how many people in the Muslims world support ISIS?? is it in the millions,tens of millions, or more??

When they kill Muslims (which happen to be +95% of victims), it's 'internal violence' for you, when they kill Christians, it's a war between Islam and 'civilized' world. Media has turned majority of westerners in to sheeps.

2 days ago, a terrorist in U.S killed 3 Muslims in cold blood for their faith, first there was a complete blackout in western media and when they finally remembered those 3 have been murdered, they said it was a fight over a parking place! Fucking disgusting.

Today 2 persons killed in Denmark and minutes later, there was breaking news all over media: "TERROR IN Denmark". "A man speaking Arabic attacked innocent Jews. No we are not talking about Muslim terrorists at all, don't judge us".

We are basically leaving in a modern jungle in which 'civilized' countries happen to have cleaner bodies compared to third world animals. In this jungle, those clean animals represent the pigs in Animal Farm by Gearge Orwell.

 

[al-Hasani]

@al-Hasani I am not ignoring the suffering of locals but the point is minorities are more likely to be targeted than Sunni Muslims and these are just popular stories while there are more unspeakable crimes happening as we speak but I am not going to post them. For instance in Egypt, when the Muslim brotherhood was overthrown, protesters were accusing Coptic Christians, even on this forum. What did Christians have to do anything with the incident?

Also you can't ignore the fact that many locals actually support them and without the support ISIS wouldn't exist. Part of the blame also goes to the West who took rulers like Saddam and Gaddafi out by force which initiated the whole mess in the first place.

Also the media publicity is not a valid point. The Jordanian pilot received more publicity than over 5000 Yazidi women who under these savages as sex slaves. Even the initial campaigns against Yazidis were overshadowed by Gaza media coverage.

Your first sentence is complete and utter bullshit with all due respect. Is that why the vast, vast majority of the victims in Sinai, Iraq and Syria (by the hands of Daesh) are Sunni Muslims or Muslims in general?

Show us anything that occurred during Morsis rule against the Copts that was not reported?
How many Copts were killed?

Yes, Daesh has the support of a few thousand people who have mostly known nothing but wars and state oppression. Still those people live in a entirely different world than 99% of all Muslims.

I don't agree with that or the narrative that you try to paint.

Do you have valid and independent proof of 5000 Yazidi women (that's a hell lot) being taken as slaves? Also it's not correct that this was not talked about. Alone on PDF there were several threads about it.

Of course a lot of people talked about the Jordanian martyr mainly because he was the first international pilot that took part in the coalition against Daesh who not only suffered a defect and crash but who also got captured and then burned alive. Which was unseen before. This was a deliberate move by Daesh to create even more fear and publicity. They succeeded.

 

[Azizam]

When they kill Muslims (which happen to be +95% of victims), it's 'internal violence' for you, when they kill Christians, it's a war between Islam and 'civilized' world. Media has turned majority of westerners in to sheeps.

2 days ago, a terrorist in U.S killed 3 Muslims in cold blood for their faith, first there was a complete blackout in western media and when they finally remembered those 3 have been murdered, they said it was a fight over a parking place! Fucking disgusting.

Today 2 persons killed in Denmark and minutes later, there was breaking news all over media: "TERROR IN Denmark". "A man speaking Arabic attacked innocent Jews. No we are not talking about Muslim terrorists at all, don't judge us".

We are basically leaving in a modern jungle in which 'civilized' countries happen to have cleaner bodies compared to third world animals. In this jungle, those clean animals represent the pigs in Animal Farm by Gearge Orwell. This guy was a genius.

Stop spreading garbage. What blackout? Obama himself has condemned it.

BBC News - Chapel Hill: Obama condemns 'brutal and outrageous murders'

Three Muslim students dead in North Carolina shooting as suspect arrested | US news | The Guardian

3 students shot to death in apartment near UNC Chapel Hill - CNN.com



Like to see for once, an Iranian leader condemning violence against Bahai's.

 

[C130]

When they kill Muslims (which happen to be +95% of victims), it's 'internal violence' for you, when they kill Christians, it's a war between Islam and 'civilized' world. Media has turned majority of westerners in to sheeps.

2 days ago, a terrorist in U.S killed 3 Muslims in cold blood for their faith, first there was a complete blackout in western media and when they finally remembered those 3 have been murdered, they said it was a fight over a parking place! Fucking disgusting.

Today 2 persons killed in Denmark and minutes later, there was breaking news all over media: "TERROR IN Denmark". "A man speaking Arabic attacked innocent Jews. No we are not talking about Muslim terrorists at all, don't judge us".

We are basically leaving in a modern jungle in which 'civilized' countries happen to have cleaner bodies compared to third world animals. In this jungle, those clean animals represent the pigs in Animal Farm by Gearge Orwell.

did I say all Muslims are terrorists or terrorist supporters, but I would bet it's a good 5% to 10% that do.

and that's just to many.


but if the shoe was on the other foot and Christians were doing this and supporting it even 0.1% would be to much to set the Muslim world off.

and most attacks on Muslims are from an individual not an entire group of people.

 

[Serpentine]

Stop spreading garbage. What blackout? Obama himself has condemned it.

Do you know English language? If not, then this forum is not for you. This is what I said:

first there was a complete blackout in western media and when they finally remembered those 3 have been murdered, they said it was a fight over a parking place!

Now for the third time, do me a favor and don't quote me again to embarrass yourself. This is third time that exact same thing happens.

 

[Kompromat]

on our hands?? no one is forcing ISIL to behead Christians,Shia, or anyone who isn't part of their click.

i'm just seeing apathy in the Muslim world over such atrocities, but when a non-muslim does wrong to a Muslim it's time to protest and burn flags or worse.

We have been desensitised.

 

[waz]

on our hands?? no one is forcing ISIL to behead Christians,Shia, or anyone who isn't part of their click.

i'm just seeing apathy in the Muslim world over such atrocities, but when a non-muslim does wrong to a Muslim it's time to protest and burn flags or worse.

Apathy, people have become desensitised to this sadly.
Lots of Muslims work round the clock to combat extremists. It's just that we don't interest major media corporations who'd rather run over to a chap with his face covered burning a flag.....
There is an issue with extremism though.

God bless the fallen men. My prayers for their families.

ISIS are evil and should be killed without mercy.

 

[Kompromat]

@C130

Let me disclose this to you that as a young boy i've gone through an extremist training camp and they tried hard to brainwash me.

I left it and educated myself in religion(s) over the years. My opinion after having seen them from within can be embodied by the word 'cult'.

These people are not fighting for Islam, they are fighting against it.

 

[Azizam]

Your first sentence is complete and utter bullshit with all due respect. Is that why the vast, vast majority of the victims in Sinai, Iraq and Syria (by the hands of Daesh) are Sunni Muslims or Muslims in general?

Show us anything that occurred during Morsis rule against the Copts that was not reported?
How many Copts were killed?

Yes, Daesh has the support of a few thousand people who have mostly known nothing but wars and state oppression. Still those people live in a entirely different world than 99% of all Muslims.

I don't agree with that or the narrative that you try to paint.

Do you have valid and independent proof of 5000 Yazidi women (that's a hell lot) being taken as slavs? Also it's not correct that this was not talked about. Alone on PDF there were several threads about it.

Of course a lot of people talked about the Jordanian martyr mainly because he was the first international pilot that took part in the coalition against Daesh who not only suffered a defect and crash but who also got captured and then burned alive. Which was unseen before. This was a deliberate move by Daesh to create even more fear and publicity. They succeeded.

Mate, what I meant was when ISIS usually invade territories, they give a chance for the Sunni Muslims to pledge alliance whereas for the Shias, the only option is death unless I am wrong. @1000 can give us more information.

Seriously? There were few riots against Coptic Christians under Morsi's rule, even there was a famous video that filmed a group of muslims raping a coptic woman in a street (due to the policies on the site I can't post such news) but I don't think it had anything to do with Morsi or his Muslim Brotherhood. But that was not my point. When MB was overthrown, the demonstrators were accusing Christians and Jews, who had nothing to do with it of, causing it.

I meant to say 500 but that's the minimum number. My apologies for the typo. It should be somewhere in between 500-1500 which by the way is not a small number either.

 

[jamahir]

@C130

Let me disclose this to you that as a young boy i've gone through an extremist training camp and they tried hard to brainwash me.

I left it and educated myself in religion(s) over the years. My opinion after having seen them from within can be embodied by the word 'cult'.

tableeghis or something else??

These people are not fighting for Islam, thet are fighting against it.

they were created or supported for that very reason.

 

[Azizam]

Do you know English language? If not, then this forum is not for you. This is what I said:



Now for the third time, do me a favor and don't quote me again to embarrass yourself. This is third time that exact same thing happens.

Don't try your usual tricks against me. If you have nothing valuable to contribute, how about leave the thread and spread your internet revolution somewhere else?

You said there was a western media blackout and I showed you articles from major western media outlets. It somehow even made it to the trending news of Google. So much for the blackout. Even the US president has condemned it. Now show me one instance where an Iranian leader condemning the persecution of Baha'i people otherwise drop your usual "morally superior" garbage.

 

[1000]

Mate, what I meant was when ISIS usually invade territories, they give a chance for the Sunni Muslims to pledge alliance whereas for the Shias, the only option is death unless I am wrong. @1000 can give us more information.

Sunnis have a choice but they find out afterwards that they ended up in hell. When ISIS loses a city they simply destruct as much as they can, blow up houses of Sunnis and return to suicide bombings killing the same Sunnis again.

Shia's are always to be killed by ISIS whether women or children, that's why ISIS isn't able to capture cities with Shi'a majority, they give heavy resistance unlike most Sunnis who prefer letting others do the fighting.

But I agree that Sunnis are larger victims of this, at least in reality they are. ISIS uses their usual anti Shi'a propaganda to justify it

 

[ResurgentIran]

did I say all Muslims are terrorists or terrorist supporters, but I would bet it's a good 5% to 10% that do.

and that's just to many.


but if the shoe was on the other foot and Christians were doing this and supporting it even 0.1% would be to much to set the Muslim world off.

and most attacks on Muslims are from an individual not an entire group of people.

It would be interesting to hear where you get your numbers from.

 

[Kompromat]

tableeghis or something else??
they were created or supported for that very reason.

Most Tablighis are everyday pious Muslims. I attended a camp by Harkt ul Jihad.

Once you see them from inside, you'll come to despise and loathe them.