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Islamic nato

First of all stay in your pants,you dont need to show us your pea-size temper , nobody cares.
For NATO, what it is today matters..See wahat Macron recently said and what his plans are besides NATO.NATO hasnt been able to check the Russian influence in ME.Thats the bottomline for me.
your trophies..
Afg ? rag tag talis?? they are still there
IRaq- Turkey refused to have NATO use its land, France opted out, UK went in with conditions, is that what NATO stood for.
Syria -Russians won there.
Libya - the only victory you can claim??
NATO has internal conflicts that are obstacles to its doctrine.
Your stupid comparison of IMAFT with NATO is also hilarious..the latter contains three UNSC members.This was no way going to be anything like NATO anytime in future..


You have no clue what Macron meant---.

Indirectly he wants to declare pakistan a terrorist nation on the instigation of india---that Rafale deal has to have some dividends for india---.

And then direct nato's attention towards pakistan---.

Nato is america and america is nato---whenever the US wants to use nato to its benefit---it would make it a functional utility---.
 
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Why not?? But, flowers don’t blossom till it’s time! One at a time...

As the Western alliance - based on common interests - gets weaker, the Muslim alliance - based on the common Faith - gets stronger....

The fission in the Western alliance, interestingly, is being caused by OBOR from China!! And, CPEC is its first major initiative...

The West vs the West - when their interests collide - isn’t a pleasant scene to watch....
 
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Making a troops like what African Union has is the first step IMO.

The African Standby Force (ASF)

The Constitutive Act gives the AU the right to intervene in a Member State in grave circumstances, namely war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. As per Article 13 of the Protocol Relating to the Establishement of the Peace and Security Council of the African Union, the ASF is based on standby arrangements with Africa’s five sub-regions.


It is composed of multidimensional capabilities, including military, police and civilian, on standby in their countries of origin and ready for rapid deployment. Thus the initial concept of the ASF was that of a quick reaction capacity that would enable Africans to respond swiftly to a crisis unhampered by any heavy political and instrumental burdens. The range of functions assigned to the ASF includes:

1. Observation and monitoring missions;
2. Other types of peace support operations;
3. Intervention in a member state in respect of grave circumstances or at the request of a member state to restore peace and security, in accordance with Article 4(h) and 4(J) of the AU Constitutive act;
4. Preventive deployment to prevent a dispute or a conflict from escalating, an ongoing violent conflict from spreading to neighboring areas or states and the resurgence of violence after parties to conflict have reached an agreement;
5. Peace building, including post conflict disarmament and demobilization;
6. Humanitarian assistance to alleviate the suffering of civilian population in conflict areas and support efforts to address major natural disasters;
7. Any further functions as may be mandated by the PSC or the Assembly of Heads of State.

http://www.peaceau.org/en/page/82-african-standby-force-asf-amani-africa-1
 
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You have no clue what Macron meant---.

Indirectly he wants to declare pakistan a terrorist nation on the instigation of india---that Rafale deal has to have some dividends for india---.
Nice deflection.. His focus is on Turkish incursion in Syria..You want to add Pakistan flavor to it,thats your own figment of mind.yah mast conspiracy khan .French will listen to India? they didnt offer Indians a proper Rafael deal with ToT..how can they offer them PAkistan in a plate and anger China ? know the geopolitical balance of the region and how France is becoming a part of BRI..
Not only such moves can be easily vetoed but hurt the French ambitions in the region..
 
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Pakistan had the chance---God given opportunity---a miracle chance---and pakistanis fckd it up----.

The Yemen issue---that was the begining of the so called Nato alliance of muslim nations and also with the permission of christian powers---.

Nobody can fck up a gift like the pakistanis---.

what are u talking about sir?

What muslim alliance? u cant even find more then 2 muslim nations that get along with each other.
 
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Nice deflection.. His focus is on Turkish incursion in Syria..You want to add Pakistan flavor to it,thats your own figment of mind.yah mast conspiracy khan .French will listen to India? they didnt offer Indians a proper Rafael deal with ToT..how can they offer them PAkistan in a plate and anger China ? know the geopolitical balance of the region and how France is becoming a part of BRI..
Not only such moves can be easily vetoed but hurt the French ambitions in the region..

It is pakistan that is being targetted---it is pakistan that is being coralled---.

Turkey is up in the open---.
 
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Should pakistan propose to set up a islamic NATO type alliance views please
No. Most muslim countries are in a state of war. Where will you send forces first ? Pakistan and Syria are fighting for their existence. KSA and Turkey are securing their borders. Libya is shattered. KSA and Egypt will not attack Israel for Palestinians sake. Afghanistan has ISAF sitting in it and Afghanis are getting Anti-Pakistan day by day.
But the biggest issue of all : Iran will not send forces to fight along KSA and UAE Forces.
Most muslim countries operate American weapons and usage of American weapons would require permissions in other countries and there are many of them; fighters, gunships, MBTs, ships etc. USA didnt allow PAF pilots to fly TuAF F-16s.

Pakistan should form a military alliance with China, Sri Lanka, Turkey, Malaysia, Morocco, Maldives and Myanmar.
 
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Good idea but most "islamic" countries are stooges of west
 
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Can't make OIC work so how will an Islamic NATO work? And who will it be used against? Iran? And why would Pakistan want to join such a suicide pact that would require them to fight other country's wars? Does Pakistan want to send troops to that quagmire that is Syria?

Just look at NATO today? An alliance in need of an enemy, it just doesn't know who it is. Yes, Pakistan should seek stronger military ties with Islamic countries, but a formal alliance like NATO?
 
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We are too divided for that, maybe if we have a Country like USA forces us into a alliance, and hold it together with its Military might than it might be possible , Say whatever but What NATO is today is only because of America, Take America out and NATO will break within years .
Wait a decade and many countries might change their Foreign Policies like UK was, The right wing is on the rise and they hate Muslims , Jews, Black and any immigrant of Color , they will eventually become majority and attacks from ISIS will feed their propaganda like Fire eats dry wood.

Check Poland Anti Islam protest
Check Rising Neo Nazism in Germany
Check How British is trying to opt out of EU
Check how France now have doubts over NATO
Check how Eastern Countries are not becoming more RU friendly

Sooner or later this NATO will lose its position unless USA do something about it, If trump gets elected for another term, and after him another Republican with same goals comes in he will make sure that America will took all its support back from NATO. For us we are divided into many Religious and Ethnic lines, Shia Sunni , Arab Ajam Persian .. its just not gonna work.
 
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besides oic, Pakistani posters keep forgetting Pakistan is practically a honorary member of NATO.
 
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No. Most muslim countries are in a state of war. Where will you send forces first ? Pakistan and Syria are fighting for their existence. KSA and Turkey are securing their borders. Libya is shattered. KSA and Egypt will not attack Israel for Palestinians sake. Afghanistan has ISAF sitting in it and Afghanis are getting Anti-Pakistan day by day.
But the biggest issue of all : Iran will not send forces to fight along KSA and UAE Forces.
Most muslim countries operate American weapons and usage of American weapons would require permissions in other countries and there are many of them; fighters, gunships, MBTs, ships etc. USA didnt allow PAF pilots to fly TuAF F-16s.
100% agree

Pakistan should form a military alliance with China, Sri Lanka, Turkey, Malaysia, Morocco, Maldives and Myanmar.
Malaysia has HUGE indian influence however their hart is with pakistan
Morocco? is that a joke? lol
Maldives = they might be against india but india pretty much controls it
myanmar? they are slaughtering muslims so will pakistan join with their action?
 
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100% agree


Malaysia has HUGE indian influence however their hart is with pakistan
Morocco? is that a joke? lol
Maldives = they might be against india but india pretty much controls it
myanmar? they are slaughtering muslims so will pakistan join with their action?

Malaysia - Naval setup for PN

Morocco - Tip of Africa and Europe, also USA with-in reach - SSG training facility and OPs centre setup for dispatch of SF to any of these regions.

Maldives - To Cut Indian influence and provide aid/infrastructure/Pakistan-friendly political government

Myanmar - Encircle India just like India has encircled Pakistan through Afg and Iran. Broker a deal between Rohingya and Myanmar Military.
Rohingya+Myanmar border with India+MBT 2000 and JF-17 are already deployed in Myanmar Military- any ideas ?
 
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