Islamic Bloc wants Permanent Seat at UN Security Council

[Echo_419]

OIC is a dysfunctional grouping at best, it is in no position to claim to be the representatives of the entire Islamic community. There is no such thing as the united Islamic "Ummah". Anyway, I am not sold on why a religion needs a seat at a political body such as the UNSC, it is not the place for such a demand.

Agreed they cannot agree on even a single thing

How is this supposed to work? Saudis are mostly interested in having UN resolutions against Iran and Iran is mostly interested in having resolutions against Saudis. So if Muslims had a permanent seat, how would they vote on Yemen for instance? Saudia against Houthis, Iran against Saudia. I feel sorry for the poor muslim permanent representative to the UN.

The muslim world would need one seat for Sunnis led by Saudis and another for Shias led by Iran, a separate one for all the other little sects and Ahmedis would have an IKEA self assembling stool somewhere in the corner of the council room.

Lol the last part was awesome

 

[Arya Desa]

What has Oic Achieved so far that now they want a Seat ?

pakistan has nukes

 

[opruh]

As long as troublemakers like india and japan won't get a permanent seat with veto power, then I'm ok with it.

 

[T-Rex]

UNSC is not an aristocratic entity.

It is an aristocratic organization since the permanent members of the UNSC have veto power. By the term 'aristocratic' I meant undemocratic.

 

[Providence]

It is an aristocratic organization since the permanent members of the UNSC have veto power. By the term 'aristocratic' I meant undemocratic.

So ? why does it have to be democratic ?

 

[anon45]

Never knew that the americans were to become the lovers of the ways of their colonial masters.

We want to keep our independence, nothing more.

It is an aristocratic organization since the permanent members of the UNSC have veto power. By the term 'aristocratic' I meant undemocratic.

Unfortunately that is the politics of power, the only way to change this is to change human nature, what you wish for is a pipedream who's pursuit will lead to more bloodshed than otherwise.

This just might be possible (small chance) if humans become a multiplanetary species or aliens visit, but otherwise you would need to give all countries a common cause to unite, and there isn't one.


Hell we can't even unite meaningfully over climate change, how could so many diverse countries unite in giving up their sovereignty? Just look at Europe and multiply the difficulty by 100.

 

[Providence]

We want to keep our independence, nothing more.


Unfortunately that is the politics of power, the only way to change this is to change human nature, what you wish for is a pipedream who's pursuit will lead to more bloodshed than otherwise.

This just might be possible (small chance) if humans become a multiplanetary species or aliens visit, but otherwise you would need to give all countries a common cause to unite, and there isn't one.


Hell we can't even unite meaningfully over climate change, how could so many diverse countries unite in giving up their sovereignty? Just look at Europe and multiply the difficulty by 100.

UNSC for it's current form is not because of fundamental human nature but because of what it is supposed to do ! The nature of it's function makes it as such !

 

[ThinkLogically]

Well! Then this makes the tasks for India.

One permanent seat for Hindu majority too...

 

[Donald Trump]

UN is political block not a religious block.

Plus, who will it be representing the OIC? A Shia or a Sunni? With SA and Iran on two ends of the pole there will never be a consensus!

 

[vsdoc]

LOL

 

[jaunty]

How about a permanent seat for the atheist block?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

UN is a joke anyway. Who gives a shit?

 

[vsdoc]

Let's face it guys, its a Christian world.

With the Dharmics (China and India) making a comeback.

I'm sorry, but besides being a flowing oil spigot, there is nothing else really to the "Islamic bloc" - if hypothetically for the sake of the thread one decided to draw out the argument.

In this world, civility stands between taking what one wants (or needs) by giving something back in return or not.

That gap is and can be very quickly bridged by the Christian arsenal. Should the need arise.

Cheers, Doc

 

[unbiasedopinion]

UN is a joke anyway. Who gives a shit?

And pakistan wants to implement the resolution passed by this joke organization on kashmir!!

 

[turbojet7]

having a islamic bloc will be counter productive, because most will be busy fighting among themselves.