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India’s new government will face a rapidly changing and dangerous challenge in Afghanistan, similar in some ways to the crisis in the late 1980s, when the Soviets withdrew from Kabul. The Pakistani ‘deep state’ then and now wants to make Afghanistan a puppet satellite regime, an outcome contrary to Indian interests.


As planned, the American and Nato withdrawal from Afghanistan is well underway. All combat forces will be gone by the year’s end. Press reports indicate counter-terrorist and intelligence capabilities have already been significantly reduced.

There has not been a lethal drone attack from Afghan bases inside Pakistan in over four months.

Like Moscow in 1989, Washington in 2014 hopes it has built an Afghan army and state that can survive without foreign boots on the ground to help it defeat an insurrection. It’s a strategic gamble but it’s the option US President Barack Obama chose in 2009. It took five years to get the Afghan army ready to fight alone, now we will see if it manages or fails.

Of course, today’s Afghan government is democratically elected and a run-off will probably make Abdullah Abdullah the next president this summer.

The first round election this spring had an unprecedented turnout. In contrast, the Soviet-backed regime in 1979 was put in power by a series of communist coups orchestrated by Moscow and the KGB and had no legitimacy.

The United Nations backs the Nato mission in Afghanistan today and endorses the elected government. In the 1980s the UN condemned the Soviet invasion and the Soviet client state in Kabul.

The generals, who run the Pakistani army and the ISI, are the one constant in the two eras. Their deep state uses the Afghan Taliban, including Mullah Omar, and the Haqqani network today just like their predecessors used the Mujahideen in the 1980s.

The ISI is the guiding hand and the quartermaster for a proxy war today as it was a quarter century ago. Zia-ul-Haq is long dead but his spirit lingers.

Pakistan’s civilian governments have little or no authority over the deep state.

Like Benazir Bhutto in 1989, Nawaz Sharif is not in charge of the Afghan portfolio. Sharif also knows the serious risks of crossing the generals, especially while the Musharraf trial is unresolved. Sharif will let the generals and ISI call the shots in Afghanistan.

The deep state tried hard to disrupt the Afghan election and it successfully intimidated most foreign observers.

But the ISI underestimated the Afghan people’s desire for freedom. Abdullah Abdullah is the ISI’s worst nightmare, a 21st Century Ahmad Shah Masoud, an Afghan leader who would not take orders from Rawalpindi. He is likely to sign the bilateral security agreement this summer and retain a limited residual American and Nato military presence in Afghanistan.

Since the first round of the election reliable Press reports suggest the military commander of the Afghan Taliban has been sacked for failing to disrupt the vote. A new military commander has been selected known for his very close ties to the ISI. The Pakistani generals want their proxy to perform better and they can be very brutal with their ally when it fails to achieve.

The self-proclaimed ‘Commander of the Faithful’ who runs the Afghan Taliban, Mullah Omar, is a shadowy recluse who is never seen in public and very rarely even by his own supporters.

Omar was trained by the ISI in its camps along the Durand Line in the 1980s during the war with the Soviets. He lost an eye in battle with the Russians and was hospitalised in Pakistan.

In the 1990s, Pakistan sent thousands of advisors and experts to help his Taliban army conquer the country. Without ISI help the Taliban would never have seized most of Afghanistan.

The ISI arranged Mullah Omar’s first meeting with Osama bin Laden in 1998 and midwifed the alliance between the Taliban and al Qaeda.

After the fall of Kabul and Kandahar in 2001, Mullah Omar fled to Quetta. There he masterminded the return of the Afghan Taliban.

His critical partner was General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, first as director general of the ISI and then as chief of army staff. Kayani played the key role of providing the Afghan Taliban safe havens in Pakistan, training facilities, weapons and help in fund raising in Pakistan and the Gulf states.

Kayani also oversaw the Taliban’s strategy for wearing down Nato’s will to fight, with guerrilla war in the rural areas and spectacular terror attacks in Kabul on foreign embassies and hotels.

Omar has stayed in hiding for a decade now. He is probably in an ISI safe house where his Pakistani minders can control his actions and access to him. Al Qaeda leaders still formally acknowledge him as the commander of the faithful but they also say he now lives in the “land of the dirty”, a clever play on words since Pakistan is the “land of the pure”.

Look for a major ISI-backed Taliban offensive in 2015, if not earlier, to defeat the Afghan army, at least in the Pashtun south and east. Al Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Taiba and other jihadists will join the effort.

The generals have been waiting for years to reduce Afghanistan to their sphere of influence. This is their best chance while Abdullah is still consolidating his grip.

India backed the losing side in 1989. Indira and Rajiv Gandhi stuck with Moscow and its communist warlord Najibullah until the bitter end. In 1992 India’s Afghan policy collapsed. Najibullah missed his escape flight to New Delhi and the Taliban killed him in 1996.

Today’s India is a much stronger State with the resources and capabilities to do much more than a quarter century ago. Narendra Modi inherits strong ties to the post-9/11 Afghan government.

India also has very different relations with America today than 25 years ago, their partnership should be a key part of meeting the challenge of the deep state in Kabul. India will face many foreign policy challenges ahead but the Pakistani proxy war in Afghanistan will be one of the most immediate and difficult.

Bruce Riedel is director, Brookings Institution Intelligence Project. The views expressed by the author are personal.

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2001 - 2014 = 13 years - Pakistan already made it clear that you'll see the deadly conceqeunces of supporting 20% control Afghan Govt against Pakistan from past 13 years ... tumhare tu abhe say he phat gaye hey lol

Americans aware of this ... Taliban will be back and Rule Afghanistan!!! and also aware of this - Taliban have complete support from the regional daddy [ I S I ] who working against 4 intel in Afghanistan simultaneously already acknowledged by CIA and US Forces about ISI power and your intel who are known as underware Intel working under US and Mossad umbrella will see the fire back soon....
 
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so what were hindis expecting ? that they will install as a PM , a teli hindu terrorist and Pakistan will accept their piece shit PM with flowers and pleasantries ? indians wanted to have this rat as a PM , now they got the rat as PM , but he is still a rat and nothing pleasant can happen between a rat and those who live next door,
generally the rat exterminator is called as soon as an infestation is detected

look at him

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lanat and manhosat is all over his face
 
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Like before Afghan Army will melt back to Taliban Camp within months if not weeks of NATO Exit.

These guys will not die for Obama or Karzai or anybody.

The foolish American Policy makers have not read the history books.

When the Taliban come and attack villages up North, each of these Afghan Army guys will slip out to protect their own families.

These are Tribal People and their loyalties are to their Tribes and their Families.

They don't have a concept of Nationhood in their genes.
 
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Pakistan is definitely closer to Afghan and has capability to conduct more control over the region. But India must not back down.

India's will now a stake holder in Afghan's development and future, with billion of $ of investment lined up. We need Afghan's resources and Afghanis need jobs.

My take on this issue, India should strive to maintain the current government in Kabul and give a push to business activities.
 
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so what were hindis expecting ? that they will install as a PM , a teli hindu terrorist and Pakistan will accept their piece shit PM with flowers and pleasantries ? indians wanted to have this rat as a PM , now they got the rat as PM , but he is still a rat and nothing pleasant can happen between a rat and those who live next door,
generally the rat exterminator is called as soon as an infestation is detected

look at him

Modi1.jpg


lanat and manhosat is all over his face
hahaha lol 1st save ur a$$ from TTP taliban .they are killing ur people daily basic then try to contol afghan taliban .:sniper::pakistan:

TTP splinter group claims abduction of Chinese tourist - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
 
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Good logic ..American will sign US-Afghan security pact that will allow them to keep 12000 trainers and 2000 special forces in Afghanistan post 2014 in addition to retaining several Afghan bases for predator ops, fund the ANA and then allow Taliban run over the country.

Afghan army is three hundred and fifty thousand strong...they can make mince meat out of any taliban force, Pakistan can assemble.

Even if Civil war does break it will be fought in Af-Pak region as whole.

ISI might orchestrate attacks in Afghanistan, where as CIA, RAW, Afghan intelligence(who have common intrests here) will retaliate in Pakistani cities..So Pakistanis should be really worried if their army is Planning to instigate a civil war in Afghanistan.
 
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I agree, India is more powerful than US/NATO to handle Afghanistan. Modi will act like North Korea leader Kim Jong-un? :rofl:
Wrong! Most of you are under the delusion that Pakistan's armed forces are far better than the U.S, Russian and Israeli armed forces!! Invincible! Indestructible! Straight from Planet Krypton!! Oh yeah!! :omghaha:
 
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I seriously hope situation escalates into war or conflict between Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of the pu**y stab in the back proxy terrorist attacks that the ISI indulges in. A war will help the whole world throw its weight behind the Afghans aand will unite them against the terrorist breed.
 
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Oh you are setting a very dangerous precident here..some one might just come along start comparing you leaders from Jinnah - sharifs to a common household lizard and walrus respectively.

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If you want respect, learn to give respect!!

You can call Nawaz whatever you want to but disrespect of Jinnah won't be tolerated. So yes modi would be insulted and you have right to attack Nawaz, Zardari in return.


I seriously hope situation escalates into war or conflict between Afghanistan and Pakistan instead of the pu**y stab in the back proxy terrorist attacks that the ISI indulges in. A war will help the whole world throw its weight behind the Afghans aand will unite them against the terrorist breed.

War between Pakistan and Afghanistan? And what would ANA use to fight PA. Naswar???
 
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Pakistani terrorists will lose very badly this time round. The whole scenario is in reverse - except for the wahabbi terrorist sponsor and the terrorist state sponsor - the whole world is with Afghanistan this time around.
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You can call Nawaz whatever you want to but disrespect of Jinnah won't be tolerated. So yes modi would be insulted and you have right to attack Nawaz, Zardari in return.

Your lack of respect for your current leaders, or lack of care on people insulting them is not our concern.

You insult our prime ministers/leaders, everyone one in your political hierarchy past to present is fair game!!

So do not open that Pandora's box,coz you might not like what comes out.
 
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Your lack of respect for your current leaders, or lack of care on people insulting them is not our concern.

You insult our prime ministers/leaders, everyone one in your political hierarchy past to present is fair game!!

So do not open that Pandora's box,coz you might not like what comes out.
This is Pakistan Defence Forum and you are not permitted to insult our heroes. Go f**** around anywhere else!
 
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