Islamabad Warily Weighs Establishing Ties With Israel

[Chakar The Great]

we should

but jews need to pay Pakistan

> $ 100B - for unleashing a false war on terrorism
> 200 F15S free
> 50 f35 free
> AWACS - free 4 of them
> EW, ECM,ECCM warefare platforms
> Declare india as a terrorist state

then we should allow on consulate in the middle of Baluchistan

So people who claim that every thing has a price stand correct. There is a price, which can be negotiated :p

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Their leaders and not the Palestinians. Are you condoning the murder of women and children , stealing of land and genocide and the insulting of the international community?

So when are the Palestinians going to condemn india for the murder of innocent Kashmiri men, women and children? Are you condoning the murder of innocent Kashmiri men, women and children?

PS Seems like you are finding excuses for the hypocrisy of the Palestinians/Arabs for not caring about the suffering of non-Arab Muslims like Kashmiris and Pakistanis.

 

[khansaheeb]

So when are the Palestinians going to condemn india for the murder of innocent Kashmiri men, women and children? Are you condoning the murder of innocent Kashmiri men, women and children?

PS Seems like you are finding excuses for the hypocrisy of the Palestinians/Arabs for not caring about the suffering of non-Arab Muslims like Kashmiris and Pakistanis.

I haven't met a single Palestinian who doesn't love Pakistan. Palestinians turned to the Indians in desperation as they were betrayed by major Muslim countries who should have known better.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

it is hard to count, so many things


like defense, agriculture etc

Défense cooperation against who? India? Are you that dumb that you dont have understanding of the nature of relations between India and Israel? And what you need from them anyway which you cant get from a super power which is China?

 

[Cliftonite]

I haven't met a single Palestinian who doesn't love Pakistan. Palestinians turned to the Indians in desperation as they were betrayed by major Muslim countries who should have known better.

Lying now, are we? Or just utterly deluded with the Ummah chummah bug?

Ask them what they think about Black September.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

I care about the Palestinians just as much as they care about Pakistanis and Kashmiris. Hence, I don't mind recognizing Israel but ONLY if Pakistan is given HUGE UNPRECEDENTED incentives. Otherwise establishing ties with Israel is a waste of time.

Pakistani policy towards Israel was charted by Jinnah himself. Tell me what kind of reciprocity he was seeking from Palestinians, or for that even accolades of certain group or nation?
If values had a price tag Pakistan would look more like Bangkok of today, rainbows and pride... prostitution and unclad beaches.
It has happened before and people and state of Pakistan sold people for money(incentives)... as I noted in my previous post, not so keen comments were made by Horan during Kansi trial and became a part of history.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

I absolutely KNEW you'd bring in the Hitler period.

Thing is Germans are extremely repentant about that dark phase in their history.

But you secretly despise Germans and their Judeo Christian values. You will bring up the Hitler period every time to devalue Germany while living there.

You probably hate the Jews and the gays too right. And much of Germany's liberal values. You don't outright insult them as to not get it on your record but you avoid them.

And you also think of white women as sluts without family values, don't you? Naughty boy you.

I seriously hope all of Europe wakes up like France is waking up. Someone gives you Jihadi Johns an inch you take a foot.

Having it both ways?
Where are your value? Who are you to even ask or push ones living or existing in any different environment or culture to "your" supposed interpretation of "their" values? Aren't you a rat cultivating values not conducive or even alien to your environs? You are pushing a guy living and thriving in foreign conditions and excelling while negotiating German and his own values... how many Germans are doing the same and when or if the need arrives they'll decimate the locals like you to form their own safe space in your midst!

Besides, Europe is very busy creating Madkhilis, ones who'd be loyal to them while taking the likes of you on...
Just get lost and before commenting first for your own sake, look at the mirror and do an honest appraisal and describe/define yourself!

 

[Cliftonite]

You are pushing a guy living and thriving in foreign conditions and excelling while negotiating German and his own values... how many Germans are doing the same and when or if the need arrives they'll decimate the locals like you to form their own safe space in your midst!

Nopeee.

He's living in cognitive dissonance.

It's upto Europeans to see how they want to traverse with Jihadi Johns in their midst. Europe seems to be bit by the political correctness bug.

If values had a price tag Pakistan would look more like Bangkok of today, rainbows and pride... prostitution and unclad beaches

Pakistan has pretty much all of that covertly....with a shitty existence for most of its subjects.

Bangkok has all of that overtly....with a slightly better existence for its subjects.

Get over your dumb virtue signalling.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Nopeee.

He's living in cognitive dissonance.

It's upto Europeans to see how they want to traverse with Jihadi Johns in their midst. Europe seems to be bit by the political correctness bug.

And you missed the gun boat and fellow mercenaries boarding up in Europe to conquer the world and project it in it's mirror image. I don't think Europeans colonizing the world were told while boarding, "by the way conform to the local values as you disembark".
It is only convenient when all roads started leading to Europe, one must have stamp on the paper and conform to Europeans values, ambiguous or fleeting they maybe...
For you, keep chasing them...

 

[Iltutmish]

It's upto Europeans to see how they want to traverse with Jihadi Johns in their midst. Europe seems to be bit by the political correctness bug.

Does it hurt when you look in the mirror and see a brown slave and not a blue eyed German? Must be a Hindu thing. Your inferiority complex is priceless.

Euros are fine with me, they are more into industrious educated people paying taxes. They don’t really care what you believe. You OTOH are too poor to get a fancy Euro Visa. So try more gay pride, asylum visa not guaranteed though!

 

[Cliftonite]

Does it hurt when you look in the mirror and see a brown slave and not a blue eyed German? Must be a Hindu thing. Your inferiority complex is priceless.

Euros are fine with me, they are more into industrious educated people paying taxes. They don’t really care what you believe. You OTOH are too poor to get a fancy Euro Visa. So try more gay pride, asylum visa not guaranteed though!

No. I'm very proud of my brown skin and this brown land that my people came from.

Insecure people have a habit of seeing what they dislike about themselves in others. It's usually mard e momin Indus plain brownies like you who are desperate to find a trace of Pakhtun or Central Asian trace in your ancestry. Not me.

In one sentence, you're accusing me of being a "white worshipper" and in the same sentence, you're supposedly insulting me for not being able to secure a "European visa", like it's something to be proud of. Are you crazy or something?

No but in all honesty I have family abroad. Immigrating is not an issue at all. I'm in no hurry but I might in the future.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I haven't met a single Palestinian who doesn't love Pakistan. Palestinians turned to the Indians in desperation as they were betrayed by major Muslim countries who should have known better.

I know. It's always okay for the Palestinians and Arabs to betray Islam. But it's only Haram when Pakistanis do the same................

 

[khansaheeb]

I know. It's always okay for the Palestinians and Arabs to betray Islam. But it's only Haram when Pakistanis do the same................

You remind me of people who say corruption is ok because other people are corrupt.

 

[nahtanbob]

Question to these pseudo intellects who are hell bend on building ties with Israel, purely in terms of benefits to Pakistan, what are you expecting out if this?

Let me remind you all, Pakistan has done FAR FAR FAR bigger things for America in history and in return got stuffed very badly. From making America the sole super power in the world to fighting American war on terror with massive price to pay. Got nothing but internal chaos, economic strangulation, corrupt to the core American sponsored so called leaders, worst American deep state working in collaboration with India to spread terrorism within Pakistan.


So stop wasting time on this non sense over an entity which you struggle to find on the map, focus on building Pakistan, stay united with tunnel vision approach towards building Pakistan as a major player in the world.

Why does everything have to be dollars and cents ?

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You remind me of people who say corruption is ok because other people are corrupt.

So are you denying that the Palestinians themselves have betrayed Islam and don't give a damn about Pakistanis or Kashmiris?........ :