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“Islam has no place in Slovakia." Slovakian PM Fico

There is no proof yet, except, possibly, in the USA, that large Muslim immigrant populations can successfully assimilate into majority European cultures. Immigrant populations that do not assimilate after two or three generations become a true problem for their societies.
 
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We should clean our house first otherwise world will again laugh on us.
Did you see any Muslim country doing protest on violations of human rights in Kashmir. You can't see even 100 people on street there?

Yeah, agreed. Doesn't change what I said.
 
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There is no proof yet, except, possibly, in the USA, that large Muslim immigrant populations can successfully assimilate into majority European cultures.
And there is no proof yet that large Black populations can be successfully assimilated into Western culture - as seen in US. Does this mean Blacks are going to be banned?

And as regards Slovakia it must be noted that this is just xenophobia - unless you guy's think Slovaks wouldbe tickling each other over Rastarfarians, Hindus, Sikhs coming in waves.

Who are you? "Hindus". Okay you good, you come in !
 
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Nice... their country, their rules.... No Muslim cares either way
 
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Is it just me or west is getting more intolerant, after preaching liberal lessons for decades. Talk about the hypocrisy! They say that people get irritating during old age and west is showing all signs of 'maturity'.

principles are only applied to others, when it comes back to you than hum ne khailty
 
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Is it just me or west is getting more intolerant, after preaching liberal lessons for decades. Talk about the hypocrisy! They say that people get irritating during old age and west is showing all signs of 'maturity'.
principles are only applied to others, when it comes back to you than hum ne khailty
Registered just to note that I see a lot of misundestandings here comming from not knowing what Slovakia is - and what it is not.

Firstly, Slovakia is NOT part of the historical Western cultural space. It never was. As such, we do *not* go preaching around the world how others should live. Specifically the current PM quoted gets a lot of flak from West Europe politicians for criticizing openly most western "adventures" including the late Libya and Syria ones.

Secondly, we are a trully young nation - having attained statehood again only in 1993, after spending almost 1000 years under some other nation rule. For this we value our own culture a lot and do not want it changed or dilluted.

Third. Slovakia was the de-facto border beween Christian Europe and Ottoman Empire for almost 5 _centuries_. We got attacted countless times by the Turks (which happened to be muslims, but you can imagine how nuanced the interpretation was back then) and each single time we had to - and did - beat them back at a great cost. About 1/3 of our folk tales and songs are about this period of "evil muslims" attacking "us". Also, during those hundreds of year, we rarely had to fight anyone else again creating a very deep mistrust of anything "muslim", before a politician says a word or before the first headchopper decides to go boom. This is a historical lesson, and given the current climate, no one reading the news feels like changing the viewin the earnest.

Lastly. The statement by the PM is _not_ directed at any individual person. We welcome anyone, and do not discriminate. I come from a Spa city that has a couple thousand muslims from GCC come each summer, some even living here long term. No issues. But those are all visitors who do not come preaching to us how to live, we preach not to them and everyone is happy so to speak.

So, to the point:
What the statement and law change is directed at is the organized and often state-sponsored push to create self-governed muslim communities which would then ignore and challenge the laws of the host country using the hospitality and various human right privileges people of the country shed blood for against them. It is vile, dishonest and nothing but cultural warfare. We now see the west fell for this - they had lot of sins to make up from their colonial era after all. And we want none of it. We never had colonies, did not start a war with anyone for 1000 years and thus we see no moral obligation to anyone to let him destroy or dilute our culture. Nor we see ourselves superior to tell anyone how he should live.

Maybe this seems a very non-Western position. It is not. We are not the West the same way Turkey is not he West. Even if now joined in NATO, which, BTW had to make a soft version of a "color" revolution in 1998 to to get us join in the first place.
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Registered just to note that I see a lot of misundestandings here comming from not knowing what Slovakia is - and what it is not.

Firstly, Slovakia is NOT part of the historical Western cultural space. It never was. As such, we do *not* go preaching around the world how others should live. Specifically the current PM quoted gets a lot of flak from West Europe politicians for criticizing openly most western "adventures" including the late Libya and Syria ones.

Secondly, we are a trully young nation - having attained statehood again only in 1993, after spending almost 1000 years under some other nation rule. For this we value our own culture a lot and do not want it changed or dilluted.

Third. Slovakia was the de-facto border beween Christian Europe and Ottoman Empire for almost 5 _centuries_. We got attacted countless times by the Turks (which happened to be muslims, but you can imagine how nuanced the interpretation was back then) and each single time we had to - and did - beat them back at a great cost. About 1/3 of our folk tales and songs are about this period of "evil muslims" attacking "us". Also, during those hundreds of year, we rarely had to fight anyone else again creating a very deep mistrust of anything "muslim", before a politician says a word or before the first headchopper decides to go boom. This is a historical lesson, and given the current climate, no one reading the news feels like changing the viewin the earnest.

Lastly. The statement by the PM is _not_ directed at any individual person. We welcome anyone, and do not discriminate. I come from a Spa city that has a couple thousand muslims from GCC come each summer, some even living here long term. No issues. But those are all visitors who do not come preaching to us how to live, we preach not to them and everyone is happy so to speak.

So, to the point:
What the statement and law change is directed at is the organized and often state-sponsored push to create self-governed muslim communities which would then ignore and challenge the laws of the host country using the hospitality and various human right privileges people of the country shed blood for against them. It is vile, dishonest and nothing but cultural warfare. We now see the west fell for this - they had lot of sins to make up from their colonial era after all. And we want none of it. We never had colonies, did not start a war with anyone for 1000 years and thus we see no moral obligation to anyone to let him destroy or dilute our culture. Nor we see ourselves superior to tell anyone how he should live.

Maybe this seems a very non-Western position. It is not. We are not the West the same way Turkey is not he West. Even if now joined in NATO, which, BTW had to make a soft version of a "color" revolution in 1998 to to get us join in the first place.
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Much of your post is correct.. but you missed on some important points:
1) The European Crusaders started the invasions, and History books say that they were extremely cruel to Muslims, so one should not blame The Muslims who believe in sympathy towards the children, women and the elderly during warfare, the Crusaders did shock the Muslims with their atrocities in the middle east, and the latter had no choice but to contain this savagery..
2) there are no Muslims or other immigrants who want to live in Slovakia, they are all looking for some better life than their own countries, and Slovakia as such is not very attractive to them.. but since there are some 2000 Slovak Muslims, it will be important for them to have Mosques, since there are far more Christians living in most Muslim countries and there is no ban on them having their Churches, this is always proportional to the numbers.. of course..
3) You have answered very nicely, but the title of the thread
“Islam has no place in Slovakia."
is a bit too extremist for moderate Muslims minds ..especially when coming from the mouth of a country's prime minister..
 
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Otherwise they'll all end up in third world countries that they ran away from

Unfortunately , that's what most migrants end up wanting .

They end up in the same environment they left behind The only change being possibly the weather .
 
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None of our business. Their country, Their Rules.

And we should reciprocate

Minorities are under threat across the world

If muslim minorities are attacked then why should muslim majority countries try to protect ours.

The world is changing Trump in America, tifht wing parties in Europe, Modi in India


Maybe some of the Mullahs were right they were just ahead of their time.


The point being Pakistan has minorities we have a million plus hindus, Christians, even ahmedis

The same goes across the Muslim world


Liberalism is dying in the west so their is no point in muslim countries trying to embrace something others are rejecting


They cant also complain about Pakistan or Indonesia or any other muslim country if our minorities come under pressure if they are doing the same thing
 
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The Slovak Republic has moved forward with coupling its electricity market with the Czech Republic's, and supports the construction of a North-South pipeline connection that would link planned LNG terminals in Croatia and Poland, including an interconnector to Hungary.



Algeria’s investment will allow the third largest supplier of natural gas to the European Union to boost total gas exports by over 60% by 2015, Khelil told a news briefing in Vienna.

Gas exports should rise to 100 billion cubic meters per year by then, from around 62 billion now, he said. Investment in developing new oilfields will compensate decline in older fields and keep the OPEC member’s production capacity steady at around 1.4 million barrels per day (bpd), Khelil said.

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Then Pakistan govt can threaten slovakia, you are a fort of Islam and thakedars you should prove that to Slovakia.


This is all linked to gas supplies to Ukraine .

Unfortunately , that's what most migrants end up wanting .

They end up in the same environment they left behind The only change being possibly the weather .

EU nations do have a very strange policy.

On one hand they degrade migrants from Asia and Africa even the legal ones and then talk about human rights and better lives.

its mainly the exports from Arab world and Republic of India who see in terms of humans but its not the other way.
 
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