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Hey guys...how do Indonesians generally see their country? You you guys see Indonesia as a Muslim country where Islam forms the basis of culture and lifestyle?
Or do you guys see Indonesia as completely secular/irreligious with Islam having no role in politics and public (like in Norway or France etc).
How do you guys see Indonesia generally?
Some input would be appreciated!
In term of culture and lifestyle we are quite mix, it depends on the person. In general Muslim Indonesian are among the best in praying as pew research reveals and I have witness as well. Malay race (Sumatra/Kalimantan), Betawi race (Jakarta), Sunda (West Java) race are more Islamic than others that can be seen by their woman traditional dress. This region always support Islamist party since 1955.
(Our democracy actually is started at 1955 and then Soekarno abolished it, Soeharto democracy is also fake one, but in some degree become our basis for our real democracy, and 1999 election is prepared by parliament members and executive loyal to Soeharto in the past.)
Javanese is rather mix and Javanese living in the village is not that Islamic compared to Javanese living in the city. Some news report by CNN, Economist, and maybe Al-Jazeera tried to portray Indonesia through that region (some Javanese villages) which is misleading, and Javanese living in village are now becoming more religious as well as government or pious people there keep building mosque there
Islamist have always had a big role in Indonesia's politics as you can read from my previous post. The role was suppressed by Soekarno in 1960's and also suppressed by Soeharto until 1998. Despite that even during Soeharto regime, he give many leaders from HMI (Islamic Student Organisation/ HMI-university student) seats at Golkar party (the party set up by Soeharto). HMI is a very important force to topple Soekarno in 1965-1966 and side by side with Indonesian Army force to fight against Soekarno and communism. HMI leaders then started to become Golkar party leaders during 1990's. Soeharto during 1990s become more Islamic and his best man is Habibie, and Islamist leader who create ICMI
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The
Islamic Students Association (
Indonesian:
Himpunan Mahasiswa Islam) (HMI) is an Indonesian organization that was founded in
Yogyakarta on 5 February 1947 at the initiative of
Lafran Pane with 14 students from the
Institute of Islam in Yogyakarta (
Indonesian:
Sekolah Tinggi Islam Yogyakarta).
HMI is an independent organization with the objective of
connecting academics, creators – servants of Islam, and taking responsibility for creating a just people blessed by Allah.
HMI DIPO
To stop HMI from being destroyed, the congress in
Padang agreed that the only fundament of belief should be the
Pancasila. The HMI which has its headquarters in
Jalan Diponegoro is the only HMI that is recognized by the
government, thus we can separate the HMI which is often called HMI DIPO from the
Muslim Students' Association MPO. At the congress in
Jambi in 1999, HMI returned to recognizing Islam as the main source of values.
Indonesian Association of Muslim Intellectuals
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The
Indonesian Association of Muslim Intellectuals (Indonesian:
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ICMI) is a
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B. J. Habibie, the organisation is committed to
fight against poverty and improve education in Indonesia.
History
While most Indonesia Muslim politicians had supported the deposing of the
Sukarno regime and the suppression of the
Communist Party of Indonesia by
Indonesian army chief
Suharto between 1965 and 1968, the latter suppressed Indonesia Muslim political activities. Suharto pursued a
secular system of government, which along with the high-level appointment of
Catholics and patronage of the ethnic
Chinese community made Indonesia Muslim political groups a major part of opposition to his regime.
However, in the early 1990s, Suharto moved his public identity and government considerably towards Islam. Adopting the name Haji Mohammed Suharto, he undertook a
hajjpilgrimage to
Mecca,
Saudi Arabia in 1991. In the prior year, Suharto had permitted the formation of the Indonesian Association of Indonesia Muslim Intellectuals under the influence of Bacharuddin Jusuf Habibie, a close adviser and then-minister of technology and research. As opposed to traditional Islamic organizations in Indonesia such as the
Nahdatul Ulama (NU), ICMI supported Suharto's regime in turn for considerable influence in policy-making and administration.
By 1994, ICMI had grown considerably, boasting as many as 20,000 members, who were largely Indonesia Muslim professionals, scientists, economists, educators and scholars. Habibie (who soon became Suharto's vice-president) served as ICMI's president while Indonesia Muslim scholars and political activists such as
Imaduddin (who had been imprisoned by the Suharto regime in 1979) helped organize the body. Its prominent members also included
Amien Rais, who would later become a major opponent of the Suharto regime and chief of
Muhammadiyah, reputedly the largest Islamic organization in the world. While highly-influential during the Suharto era, ICMI lacked a grassroots organisation, public appeal or popular support. Consisting of elite intellectuals, ICMI's influence grew mainly with the patronage of Suharto and his political party,
Golkar.
Influence in the Suharto regime
Under the patronage of B. J. Habibie, ICMI activists infiltrated the central government, being appointed to important posts within the civil service and central ministries. Opposed to the widespread economic and political influence of the Catholic and ethnic Chinese community, ICMI-affiliated officials ended government schemes that were seen as being mainly beneficial to Catholics and Chinese Indonesians. ICMI advocated the domination of Muslims in the ranks of government, civil services, police and military, industries and commerce and the relegation of ethnic and religious minorities to inferior ranks. ICMI also advocated the introduction of
Sharia into the Indonesian legal and political system and oversaw the establishment of Islamic courts, an Islamic bank and the promotion of Islamic media.
Criticism
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2012 data
Commitment to Islam | Pew Research Center
Some of our famous artist using hijab, they uses later, just like many Indonesian woman are now using hijab, the numbers are increasing since 2000 as Islamic preaching is gaining momentum in democracy, which is also helped by TVs as Soeharto opens private enterprises to television business in 1990s, two private TV companies then set up by Soeharto son and daughter which is RCTI, SCTV, and TPI. The only private own broadcasting madia during 1990's.
Todays television companies owned by Muslim becomes popular as well like Trans TV, Trans 7 (entertainment), Metro TV, TV One, CNN Indonesia (news channel).