ISI's role in Raymond Davis case

[Farhan Malik]

I am feeling ashamed of our agencies for handing over a bastard like raymond ravis to the americans.
He murdered 3 innocent Pakistani civilians and still Gen. Pasha pressurized the relatives of the victims to accept diyat and back out of the case.

Utter shamelessness...

Are the lives of Pakistani civilians so cheap and valueless that any american a-hole can come and kill a bunch of us and then easily get away with it?
We call ourselves a brave and righteous nation but don't have the guts to stand against cruelty. We're always licking American and jewish feet. I am feeling ashamed of being a part of such a weak nation

 

[ssethii]

Episodes like these are just a burden we have to carry for being a frontline ally in America's war on terror.

 

[Farhan Malik]

That's the point I'm trying to make.
Why are we being America's lap-dog?

We're not really as weak a military power as we deem ourselves to be. And we have a great ally in the shape of China on our side. We don't have to eat up every piece of garbage america feeds us all the time.

 

[senses]

That's the point I'm trying to make.
Why are we being America's lap-dog?

We're not really as weak a military power as we deem ourselves to be. And we have a great ally in the shape of China on our side. We don't have to eat up every piece of garbage america feeds us all the time.

Indeed, we dont have to but yet we do, like we are doing now, believing the account written by raymond davis knowing that it's tailored by CIA.

 

[tarrar]

It is an attempt made by US to damage PA's & Intel agencies name.

It was gadari & party who were desperate to release him & had crossed all boundaries to get him released.

These stories are nothing but fabricated lies scripted by US.

 

[Azadkashmir]

we need a eagle hawk type of leader.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

So what if Gen. Bajwa or whoever pressured the families.

Here's some questions now:

1. Where are the family members now? Obviously they agreed to a price ($2.3Million) and knew the Pakistani government has deep pockets. Secretary Clinton herself stated on the record the US Government didn't pay anything.

2. So what? If it wasn't Pasha it would have been Rehman Malik or someone else, every Pakistani government/military official would have gained by helping the American.

3. A traffic warden was killed, you don't think his family will be pressured to take diya? What makes these 3 Pakistanis different from the thousands killed by Pakistani politicians or influential individuals on a yearly basis?

It's not like the ISI didn't benefit, CIA agents packed up shop in many of Pakistan's urban centers (Punjab).

 

[litman]

https://www.dawn.com/news/1342518/victims-relatives-coerced-into-accepting-blood-money-says-davis
never had any hopes from any institute in this country. these are the reasons why US doesn't take "condemnation" by our leaders seriously. they know that our leaders are totally spineless. the relations between US and pak are always like those of "wadaira" and his "kammi".
expect more drone strikes, more raymonds. more "do mores", more sanctions etc

 

[Mav3rick]

I am feeling ashamed of our agencies for handing over a bastard like raymond ravis to the americans.
He murdered 3 innocent Pakistani civilians and still Gen. bajwa pressurized the relatives of the victims to accept diyat and back out of the case.

Utter shamelessness...

Are the lives of Pakistani civilians so cheap and valueless that any american a-hole can come and kill a bunch of us and then easily get away with it?
We call ourselves a brave and righteous nation but don't have the guts to stand against cruelty. We're always licking American and jewish feet. I am feeling ashamed of being a part of such a weak nation

Correction, it was ISI chief, as per RD, Gen Pasha.

 

[Zyzz]

I am feeling ashamed of our agencies for handing over a bastard like raymond ravis to the americans.
He murdered 3 innocent Pakistani civilians and still Gen. bajwa pressurized the relatives of the victims to accept diyat and back out of the case.

Utter shamelessness...

Are the lives of Pakistani civilians so cheap and valueless that any american a-hole can come and kill a bunch of us and then easily get away with it?
We call ourselves a brave and righteous nation but don't have the guts to stand against cruelty. We're always licking American and jewish feet. I am feeling ashamed of being a part of such a weak nation

He payed the ISLAMIC DIYA to the families of the dead which is called Blood Money so by Islamic law he is free, anyone who still wishes to punish him now is going to break Islamic laws and by definition would have blasphemed.

 

[Mav3rick]

So what if Gen. Bajwa or whoever pressured the families.

Here's some questions now:

1. Where are the family members now? Obviously they agreed to a price ($2.3Million) and knew the Pakistani government has deep pockets. Secretary Clinton herself stated on the record the US Government didn't pay anything.

2. So what? If it wasn't Pasha it would have been Rehman Malik or someone else, every Pakistani government/military official would have gained by helping the American.

3. A traffic warden was killed, you don't think his family will be pressured to take diya? What makes these 3 Pakistanis different from the thousands killed by Pakistani politicians or influential individuals on a yearly basis?

It's not like the ISI didn't benefit, CIA agents packed up shop in many of Pakistan's urban centers (Punjab).

1. Saudi Arabia made the payments on behalf of RD.
2. Incorrect, history has taught us that we have been better off with limited or no relations with the US.
3. It was an accident as opposed to a cold blooded murder by an outsider, from a country that is consistently against us.

 

[Hallian_Khan]

instead of asking for investigation there are people who still defending army

 

[Farhan Malik]

He payed the ISLAMIC DIYA to the families of the dead which is called Blood Money so by Islamic law he is free, anyone who still wishes to punish him now is going to break Islamic laws and by definition would have blasphemed.

Actually the families of victims were forced to accept the diya by CIA and General Pasha as well as the Pakistani government of the time.
The poor wife of one of the men killed by the american pig committed suicide when she found out that the government had released the filthy CIA dog

It's an unfortunate reality that in our country the families of murder victims are mostly compelled to accept blood-money by the resourceful perpetrators.

Pakistan is only Muslim country on paper. The people here have sold their souls to the devil in exchange for wealth. Most of the people of higher hierarchy no longer have the belief that they will be answerable for their sins in the afterlife

 

[litman]

That's the point I'm trying to make.
Why are we being America's lap-dog?

We're not really as weak a military power as we deem ourselves to be. And we have a great ally in the shape of China on our side. We don't have to eat up every piece of garbage america feeds us all the time.

the real problem is internal corruption. the sad ahmad pur incident reflects the mind set of our whole society. such a society can never stand up for principle .

 

[sputnik]

Dear OP, although u are right with wht u just said. But try to put your foot into shoes of then Pak. Govt. What would u have done.

If chinese govt. Scumbed to american pressure and released their crew during C17 incident.

Those who are dead can't be brought back. But the outcome saved pakistan to become North Korea of South Asia.