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ISIS has designs on India: Experts

I don't understand why educated boys here are talking absurd. We are whole as a country, they are some groups, what nonsense you guys are posting.

Neither Pakistan nor India they will reach. They want people to fight for them in Iraq, thats why it is an advertisement only. Still you guys did not understand.



They have no interest in India , they know very well what they are fighting for and why they have made such maps to advertize themselves. That's all

Wow, that's a lot of blabbering dude.

read up on their concept of Mahdi, the end of the world, the nine tribes of Israel - the korasani army that will carry the black flag to Jerusalem. A part of India and it's occupation is clearly mentioned in all of their schemes.

Thousands of them are killing each other at this moment for this goal - we may choose to take it as a joke, but they take it seriously.
 
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ISIS will create another Talibantype of government in Iraq, which IMO isnt good for middle east and south asia
India know how to deal with such people, like we did in Afg. Our agenda is clear. Business diplomacy, thats all.

Wow, that's a lot of blabbering dude.

read up on their concept of Mahdi, the end of the world, the nine tribes of Israel - the korasani army that will carry the black flag to Jerusalem. A part of India and it's occupation is clearly mentioned in all of their schemes.

Thousands of them are killing each other at this moment for this goal - we may choose to take it as a joke, but they take it seriously.

That is just an advertizement, AQ wanted to paint whole world green, did it happen? They want fighter , and by printing gujrat, they want to remind 2002. Old techniques of Psychological warfare.
 
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India know how to deal with such people, like we did in Afg. Our agenda is clear. Business diplomacy, thats all.



That is just an advertizement, AQ wanted to paint whole world green, did it happen? They want fighter , and by printing gujrat, they want to remind 2002. Old techniques of Psychological warfare.

Read up on what I have mentioned and then come back to me. Not Gujarat - they mention Kashmir as one of the nine tribes.
 
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India know how to deal with such people, like we did in Afg. Our agenda is clear. Business diplomacy, thats all.

You could argue, bit ISIS isnt in India's business interest either. Surely we don't want another fundamental state ruled by radical group. It is a security nightmare
 
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Read up on what I have mentioned and then come back to me. Not Gujarat - they mention Kashmir as one of the nine tribes.

Yes i know and I can give you concepts of ibn Tahmiya and his greatest follower Al Wahab the most foondamentalist also, they are all politicizing islam for their own Goals. people who deal with them are aware.

In India also, there were so many organizations formed to fight with british, but all went down due to strategic response of british. Deoband, JeM, etc etc. Such organisations have specific role and then they are demolished. In this case you cannot say they are threat to India right now. And if they are, inputs might have come, how high they posses threat to India.

You could argue, bit ISIS isnt in India's business interest either. Surely we don't want another fundamental state ruled by radical group. It is a security nightmare

Never forget that Fundamentalist is a very religious person, they are not fundamentalists they are political who have VESTED Interest they will com on table and talk business. And an armed political movement is cut through negotiations and sabotage.
 
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It's not just about threatening our borders with Iraq invasion style force (though that would be a god send for us - so that we can bury them altogether),

we have a big muslim population - there is a real danger of internal jihadi being trained covertly, there is real possibilities of harming our interests in that region - there is a fear of some of the jihadi groups that are already targeting India right now tying up with the ISIS leader.

The big Muslim population is your concern?- why is that?-
You are afraid them indian Muslims will be trained covertly harming your interests?- Currently do you believe yours and indian muslims interests are different?- i am little bit lost here-

The biggest excuses a wannabe terrorist has is unfair treatment- his inability to provide for his family- religious motivations comes second- there is a reason the majority of Jihadis are uneducated poor people from poor countries- cities- towns- with exception of few victims of islamic radicalization of west-

The solution to your Indian Muslim problem as you portrayed is- to take care of them- its simple- That should be the biggest threat you should be focusing on- as it is internal- The external you want to focus on is far far away-
 
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Never forget that Fundamentalist is a very religious person, they are not fundamentalists they are political who have VESTED Interest. And an armed political movement is cut through negotiations and sabotage.
but capturing other countries and claiming them isnt a wise move. These are independent nations they claim to over take and Iraq is the beginning. They might succeed or not is a different thing but clearly we cannot let them try

Iraq's children of war: Rebels force boys to watch execution and youngsters join regime troops | Mail Online
The terrifying rise of Isis: $2bn in loot, online killings and an army on the run | World news | The Guardian
 
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I think Indian major role in Muslim country for help these organizations.
 
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The big Muslim population is your concern?- why is that?-
You are afraid them indian Muslims will be trained covertly harming your interests?- Currently do you believe yours and indian muslims interests are different?-


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Hundreds of jihadi's are coming out of Europe, America - even second generation, third generation European Muslims are becoming jihadi's. When I talk about the Indian Muslim population I talk about the available fertile ground to harvest Jihadi's from them.

Currently do you believe yours and indian muslims interests are different?-

It's the same for most of them - but there are possibilities of some becoming extremists. The SIMI / IM are locally cultivated terrorists for e.g.

The biggest excuses a wannabe terrorist has is unfair treatment- his inability to provide for his family- religious motivations comes second- there is a reason the majority of Jihadis are uneducated poor people from poor countries- cities- towns- with exception of few victims of islamic radicalization of west-

There is nothing called unfair treatment in non Muslim countries - they make themselves the so called victims and shout about unfair treatment in most of the countries. The opportunities are same for all be it education, employment, laws etc. Everyone has to work hard to achieve success or money - no body can force feed them or pay them for free, but people have become used to freebies especially bestowed on them due to votebank politics.

The solution to your Indian Muslim problem as you portrayed is- to take care of them- its simple-

WHY????
 
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but capturing other countries and claiming them isnt a wise move. These are independent nations they claim to over take and Iraq is the beginning. They might succeed or not is a different thing but clearly we cannot let them try

Iraq's children of war: Rebels force boys to watch execution and youngsters join regime troops | Mail Online
The terrifying rise of Isis: $2bn in loot, online killings and an army on the run | World news | The Guardian

That is what they have been doing past 800 years. They do not believe in country concept. That's why so many organisations were formed with some stupid as their idol. Indian government is aware of this. Constant inputs are there obviously.

The point is about those 40 Indians right now, not what they will do in future!
 
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well indian have no dought about the capabillities of persian/iranian army and there expereance/will to fight off these sunni wahabi /saudia backed thugs

but the question here is why are people thinking of that ISIS "has designs on india" when to come to india they first have to cross both Iran & pakistan

what do you call it "obsession with india even if there own house is on fire" or ?????

Yes bro, it's just obsession with India. India would destroy these terrorist rats.
It is not even possible to get to India. They would be massacred as soon as they try to come into Iran, even that is not possible as for them to get near Iran, they would have to go through the shia areas in Iraq, and there is something like 2 million shi'ites ready to fight them.

The fact is, the Iraqi army coward acts have embolden these terrorists, now they think they will occupy the world. Soon enough, the only thing they will occupy is a grave.
 
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The rise of al-Qaida offshoot Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) may look like a distant problem affecting the Middle East with Indians merely caught in the crossfire. But it's a danger far closer home than it appears.

Security establishment sources said ISIS, which is being suspected to be behind the kidnapping of 40 Indians in Mosul, has global ambitions and aims to create an Islamic World Dominion of which even India would be a part. A recently released world dominion map by the outfit had parts of north-west India, including Gujarat, shown as part of the Islamic state of Khorasan, a caliphate that the outfit aims to achieve.

Sources said there were inputs of jihadists from India fighting in both Iraq and Syria and some of these would eventually return. They would then become the link between the Middle East outfits and the Indian subcontinent. That is a time, sources said, India needs to prepare for. Already, the outfit is being touted as the most efficient, organized, dangerous and ambitious terror outfit in the world.

Even al-Qaida, which has terrorized the world for over two decades and is the estranged ideological guru of the outfit, looks a pale shadow in front of ISIS given the quick advances it has made in a short time. With India on its radar, even if distant, the signs are not good, sources said. Ajai Sahni, executive director of the Institute for Conflict Management, said, "Strategy is a function of capability. We are not focusing on events in the Middle East because we have no capability to influence them.

Earlier too, people have been kidnapped in the region and we have had to depend on third party negotiators. All global jihad will have India in its crosshairs. We can ignore them only at our own peril." Sahni specifically warned of the threat from Indian jihadis fighting in Iraq and Syria.

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"These are battlehardened terrorists who will one day come back. Moreover, their antics and successes will inspire many more here as we already see them drawing inspiration from events abroad," he said. The growing ambition of ISIS can be gauged from the fact that from a small group owing allegiance to al-Qaida, it took the shape of Islamic State in Iraq in 2006. Within years, as the Syrian crisis escalated, it metamorphosed into Islamic State in Iraq and Syria and is now known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant. The addition of the word Levant expands the group's aim to capture Syria, Israel, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan, Cyprus and parts of Turkey.

ISIS has designs on India: Experts - The Times of India

and we have Unmarked graves Ready for them .. dark, warm and cosy :)
 
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Yes bro, it's just obsession with India. India would destroy these terrorist rats.
It is not even possible to get to India. They would be massacred as soon as they try to come into Iran, even that is not possible as for them to get near Iran, they would have to go through the shia areas in Iraq, and there is something like 2 million shi'ites ready to fight them.

The fact is, the Iraqi army coward acts have embolden these terrorists, now they think they will occupy the world. Soon enough, the only thing they will occupy is a grave.

Whatever happens it's outside India, and what you see in India is the manifestation of crime a trror attck. They can send any one. That's why India needs to set up NCTC.
 
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