ISIS Deputy Commander of Jamatul Ahrar Adil Bacha killed by Pakistani forces 100 others exterminated

[Pakistani E]

Killing innocent people creates more terrorists. If you dont know this, then sorry, I cant argue with a 10 year old internet "group captain". Explaining to you is futile, so yes, keep enjoying and dreaming. We killed not 100, but 100000 terrorists, ok. Best in the world. #1 in everything. Bye

Are you okay? Seriously, I didn't claim we were #1 or that we killed a million terrorists. I asked how Pakistani Army killing suspected ISIS members creates more terrorists. Yet you are so adamant that they were all innocent people. Now please explain to me how you know they are innocents who were killed.

I don't care much for my rank on PDF, don't know why you brought it up. I only changed the ranks to Air Force because my father and several other family members actually served in PAF. Now can you stop diverting the topic and answer my question?

 

[Imran Khan]

Is bastard killed . Confirm please

 

[H!TchHiker]

Is bastard killed . Confirm please

TTP has denied this news...and saying he is safe

 

[Imran Khan]

TTP has denied this news...and saying he is safe

Its mean kuty ko marna mushkil hi nhi namumkin bhi hai . I miss drone

 

[H!TchHiker]

Its mean kuty ko marna mushkil hi nhi namumkin bhi hai . I miss drone

This and Mullah radio is really a pain for Pakistan..Don't know where they are hiding..make videos and get away ..

 

[BHarwana]

TTP saving face Adil Bacha confirmed dead Body has been identified and documented.

 

[R Wing]

TTP saving face Adil Bacha confirmed dead Body has been identified and documented.

Even though Photoshop can make anything look like anything, ISPR should release some "proof" for the sake of satisfying some angry patriots.

Adil Bacha has seem to have died (good riddance), as has at least one more senior commander.

 

[Kompromat]

If they decide to use their families as hostages and human shields, of course there is a risk of collateral damage. But again, it's the family which should have done their duty and reported their terrorist relatives.

Not true.. courts have given more than 500 people death sentence. If proper evidence is presented, terrorists are convicted. In fact, even if half evidence is presented, courts will give benefit of doubt to the state (due to security situation).

I have worked with some lawyers and have seen MANY cases of personal vendetta, rishwat, bad policing etc etc.

For e.g, do you remember Karachi Airport attack? How many people attacked? Everyone knows they were 10 attackers and ALL were killed. But do you know there are 3 people right now in court (since 3 years) who are said to be attackers. Local Police says there were 13 attackers, 3 escaped. Those 3 are in jail... Airport security incharge and other agencies have denied that report in court. Our military even caught all the handlers etc (they are in military jails). Those 3 people are innocent (a famous big name police SSP asked for 50 lakhs rishwat, its on record [phone recording])... Despite all this, they are still in jail as court proceedings are VERY SLOW. Witnesses DONT SHOW UP. Judges dont show up. Lawyers dont show up.. Its an open and shut case... There are many similar cases. These type of incidents give police a lot of power to MINT MONEY in the name of terror.

I can give you many examples. Yes, sometimes real terrorists have been let off by courts too [mostly because they have good financing, can afford BIG lawyer OR give HUGE RISHWAT to police to tamper evidence OR they kill witnesses etc]

In the USA, Italy etc, Mafia was defeated with the help of strong courts too... This type of illegal killings (where the police is judge, jury and executionar) lead to a lot more harm then good.



Yes, but that is if you have proof who they are. How do you know those killed are terrorists? IF the ones killed are terrorists, good riddance, but MANY... and I mean MANY are "collateral" (yes, our army/police also justify collatoral, just like the terrorists doo)



Thats the point. Not all missing people are terrorists. Do you know many times we capture relatives of terrorists (usually brothers, father and/or father in law) if we cant find the actual guy? Esp true for ppl in FATA (The British even built a law for this.. just like Israel).. and then kill them too if that wanted terrorist is doing big attacks (for e.g brother of lashkar-e-jhangvi almi guy). The lashkar person was/is a hard core, stone cold terrorist. His brother on the other hand had no such inklings.. after a number of our forces were killed by that terrorist group, we took out his brother and killed him in retaliation.

 

[F86 Saber]

Thats what Israel does in Palestine, India does in Kashmir. So either stop crying for them too or accept that Geneva convention, Rule and law of the land, Islamic law etc etc dont mean anything... Same strategy is used by terrorists to justify APS.. Army ka bacha bhi army.... If you too think the same way... I am sorry

You are quoting completely irrelevant examples, Pakistan Army did not take over their land, we did not suppress the local population, while on the other hand the Kashmiri and Palestinian freedom fighters do not blow themselves up inside religious processions and school and kill civilians, do you see the difference?

Pakistan Army is not the aggressors nor are the Talibans freedom fighters, we refrained from killing them as long as we could while they played football with the heads of our soldiers. If you think they deserve a smidgen of mercy, well i beg to differ.

 

[AmnaR]

You are quoting completely irrelevant examples, Pakistan Army did not take over their land, we did not suppress the local population, while on the other hand the Kashmiri and Palestinian freedom fighters do not blow themselves up inside religious processions and school and kill civilians, do you see the difference?

Pakistan Army is not the aggressors nor are the Talibans freedom fighters, we refrained from killing them as long as we could while they played football with the heads of our soldiers. If you think they deserve a smidgen of mercy, well i beg to differ.

After 9/11, Pakistan, with the help of US invaders did carry out a lot of operations in FATA, killed MANY Talibans / Alqaeda etc (as well as innocents) in direct and indirect operations. We destroyed a lot of their homes, schools etc.

I dont think terrorist need any smidgen of mercy. But first we should make sure that the one we are punishing is a terrorist

 

[Secret Service]

excellent PR management... bombed a place, declared everybody terrorists and brought out a number from thin air.. rounded up to nearest 100...
if only it was so easy.

still better story than Sirjeekal strikes...

 

[protest]

I believe this action will antogonize ISIS further, there could more attacks in Pakistan from now on. Appropriate reaction of the incident in my opinion shouldn't have been this.

 

[F86 Saber]

There was no active participation by any wing of Pakistan Armed services in any operation carrried out inside Afghanistan post 9/11, whatever you were told was an attempt to defame Pakistan Army. There were no operations conducted inside FATA, if that was the case, US wouldnt have been crying till today about Pakistan not taking action against the Haqqani network.

Let us take a case study, a guy is shooting at you at a completely deserted place, you somehow survive and inturn snatch the gun away from him and turn him into the police. In a court of law with no witnesses, it is your word against his as to who attacked whom. How do you prove that the guy was trying to murder you?

In most terrorist related cases, when our law enforcement catches the terrorists alive and presents them in courts, the judges ask the former to present witnesses. Problem is that either there are no witnesses, or they are too scared to testify hence the only viable option left is to make the terrorists disappear instead of seeing them released by courts.

 

[Winchester]

In the USA, Italy etc, Mafia was defeated with the help of strong courts too... This type of illegal killings (where the police is judge, jury and executionar) lead to a lot more harm then good.

Did you seriously compare our all-out civil war with some mafia problems ???

Al-Copone or the Sicily mafia in Italy didn't blow up schools or behead soldiers. They didn't occupy vast areas of land and launched a full scale insurgency against the state.

The United States got to the position where it is today after a lot of blood was spilled during the American civil war.....Read about the scorched earth tactics of the Union generals against the South to keep the country united. We are at a similar moment in our history.

Your naivety about the situation we face is embarrassing.

 

[AmnaR]

There was no active participation by any wing of Pakistan Armed services in any operation carrried out inside Afghanistan post 9/11, whatever you were told was an attempt to defame Pakistan Army. There were no operations conducted inside FATA, if that was the case, US wouldnt have been crying till today about Pakistan not taking action against the Haqqani network.

Let us take a case study, a guy is shooting at you at a completely deserted place, you somehow survive and inturn snatch the gun away from him and turn him into the police. In a court of law with no witnesses, it is your word against his as to who attacked whom. How do you prove that the guy was trying to murder you?

In most terrorist related cases, when our law enforcement catches the terrorists alive and presents them in courts, the judges ask the former to present witnesses. Problem is that either there are no witnesses, or they are too scared to testify hence the only viable option left is to make the terrorists disappear instead of seeing them released by courts.

Are you calling your own generals liar? Ever heard about General Shahiz Aziz? Pakistani Commandos did raids with US commandos, and Our Lt General claims terrorists were braver than both commandos!