ISIS Declaration of Khilafah.True or False!! What is actual khilafah?

[T-Rex]

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Muslims will never allow capitalism disguised as khilafah and imposed on them.

How about Ayatulah's rule disguised as khilafah or let's say baathist socialism disguised as khilafah, you don't mind that do you? I hear from a Jew that in that khilafah Muslims can drink alcohol, eat pork and avoid praying or fasting.

 

[Major d1]

Dear- Still now you can't understand any single word of mine.

I am not showing the ignorance- Why it happened it is long discussion. I think what i post before you did nt read that .

Tell me What is capitalism ? Does it part of Democracy or Democracy is part of capitalism and what is secularism? What is socialism? And what is islamism?

In 1400 centuries many khalifah came . Without knowledge dnt make any argument. And all khalifa died. And if i bring 10000000000 khilafh they will also die . Bcz they are not angel.

For your info 80% pakistani people wants khilafah. 1.8 billion under the occupation but their heart is Islam. What is linked with khilafah. If you lack of concept- so may be you couldn't understand my words.

Umayyad Caliphate- Abbasid Revolution- Ottoman Khilafah destroyed by the conspiracy of US-UK-French . For destroying the Ottoman khilafah they have planed for 200 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_Caliphate

 

[B@KH]

How about Ayatulah's rule disguised as khilafah or let's say baathist socialism disguised as khilafah, you don't mind that do you? I hear from a Jew that in that khilafah Muslims can drink alcohol, eat pork and avoid praying or fasting.

Dear- Still now you can't understand any single word of mine.

I am not showing the ignorance- Why it happened it is long discussion. I think what i post before you did nt read that .

Tell me What is capitalism ? Does it part of Democracy or Democracy is part of capitalism and what is secularism? What is socialism? And what is islamism?

In 1400 centuries many khalifah came . Without knowledge dnt make any argument. And all khalifa died. And if i bring 10000000000 khilafh they will also die . Bcz they are not angel.

For your info 80% pakistani people wants khilafah. 1.8 billion under the occupation but their heart is Islam. What is linked with khilafah. If you lack of concept- so may be you couldn't understand my words.

when you link Ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomons Empires to Islamic values then all goes wrong.
their acts and crimes are not approved by Islam. you need to improve your knowledge about the crimes committed by these empires.

you can only make a point by Separating these ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomons empires from khilafa and Islam.

If you insist these criminal and killer empires are Khilafa and related to Islam then it is Not True. these empires are no different to romans or greek or mongol invaders excep tthey were run by capitalist muslims.

the quality of Islam as stated in Quran is linked to God and Allah swt is the protector. so Islam cannot dented or destroyed and same applies to its institutions.

Therefore Islam cannot cry foul that british or any other came and destroyed its caliphate. or same Ummayads destroyed Abbasids or Abbasids destroyed Ummayads. Islam just watched helplessly.

Pakistanis do not want Ummayad or Abbasid or Ottomon caliphate and will never tolerate that. so there is no chance of fake capitalist caliphate in Pakistan.
so do not think 80% pakistanis need rotten capitalist caliphate.
They all need is Islam that is based or Justice and tawheed.

 

[Major d1]

when you link Ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomons Empires to Islamic values then all goes wrong.
their acts and crimes are not approved by Islam. you need to improve your knowledge about the crimes committed by these empires.

you can only make a point by Separating these ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomons empires from khilafa and Islam.

If you insist these criminal and killer empires are Khilafa and related to Islam then it is Not True. these empires are no different to romans or greek or mongol invaders excep tthey were run by capitalist muslims.

the quality of Islam as stated in Quran is linked to God and Allah swt is the protector. so Islam cannot dented or destroyed and same applies to its institutions.

Therefore Islam cannot cry foul that british or any other came and destroyed its caliphate. or same Ummayads destroyed Abbasids or Abbasids destroyed Ummayads. Islam just watched helplessly.

Pakistanis do not want Ummayad or Abbasid or Ottomon caliphate and will never tolerate that.
so do not think 80% pakistanis need rotten capitalist caliphate.
They all need is Islam that is based or Justice and tawheed.

ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomans empires has separation but the constitution was same. Yes some war happened, Bloodshed happened . But the Muslims of khilafah was under the rule of same constitution. So why you want to make differences? Any khalif can make any rule but not against Allah s law nor Quran's law. or Iztihads law.

Mongols came and attacked kabba. that means khilafah destroyed/ that time? Some crucial time happened that time and and resolved all the problems. That is how Ottoman khilafah destroyed in 1924 by kamal ataturk. What u are saying , then it was nt 1924 it happened 7th century.

All khilafah was in the same row. in an one constitution. And you have no idea about capitalism . so u r again and again saying capitalist khilafah. khilafah on the basis of quran. Quran is not capitalist.

Yes at last agreed , all muslim needs Islam that is based or Justice and tawheed.

 

[T-Rex]

when you link Ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomons Empires to Islamic values then all goes wrong.
their acts and crimes are not approved by Islam. you need to improve your knowledge about the crimes committed by these empires.

you can only make a point by Separating these ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomons empires from khilafa and Islam.

If you insist these criminal and killer empires are Khilafa and related to Islam then it is Not True. these empires are no different to romans or greek or mongol invaders excep tthey were run by capitalist muslims.

the quality of Islam as stated in Quran is linked to God and Allah swt is the protector. so Islam cannot dented or destroyed and same applies to its institutions.

Therefore Islam cannot cry foul that british or any other came and destroyed its caliphate. or same Ummayads destroyed Abbasids or Abbasids destroyed Ummayads. Islam just watched helplessly.

Pakistanis do not want Ummayad or Abbasid or Ottomon caliphate and will never tolerate that. so there is no chance of fake capitalist caliphate in Pakistan.
so do not think 80% pakistanis need rotten capitalist caliphate.
They all need is Islam that is based or Justice and tawheed.

Who claims other than those who want to slander Islamic concepts of government that Ummayads, Abbasids or the Ottomans were models of Islamic rule? All Muslim states are governed by Muslims but that does not make them Islamic states. Islamic state and Muslim state are two different ideas.

 

[Major d1]

Who claims other than those who want to slander Islamic concepts of government that Ummayads, Abbasids or the Ottomans were models of Islamic rule? All Muslim states are governed by Muslims but that does not make them Islamic states. Islamic state and Muslim state are two different ideas.

Agreed

 

[B@KH]

Who claims other than those who want to slander Islamic concepts of government that Ummayads, Abbasids or the Ottomans were models of Islamic rule? All Muslim states are governed by Muslims but that does not make them Islamic states. Islamic state and Muslim state are two different ideas.

AGREED,
Islamic Rule is Allah's swt Rule.
Islamic State and Muslim state are two different things.
thanks for mentioning that these empires were not real Islamic but Muslim.

 

[Major d1]

AGREED,
Islamic Rule is Allah's swt Rule.
Islamic State and Muslim state are two different things.
thanks for mentioning that these empires were not real Islamic but Muslim.

What is Muslim State and what is Islamic state ? That the Empires is not Islamic?

 

[T-Rex]

What is Muslim State and what is Islamic state ? That the Empires is not Islamic?

You talk big but you don't understand this, that's strange.

 

[Major d1]

You talk big but you don't understand this, that's strange.

Sorry didn't get your point.

Ohho got it .

 

[T-Rex]

Sorry didn't get your point.

A state where most of the citizens are Muslims is a Muslim state. A Muslim state is governed according to the whims of a Muslim ruler. On the other hand, a state where most of the people are Muslims and the state is governed according to the principles of the Qur'an and Hadith is an Islamic state.

 

[Major d1]

A state where most of the citizens are Muslims is a Muslim state. A Muslim state is governed according to the whims of a Muslim ruler. On the other hand, a state where most of the people are Muslims and the state is governed according to the principles of the Qur'an and Hadith is an Islamic state.

Indeed. I also said that I know . Just drooped that Q for that person.

 

[B@KH]

ummayads, Abbasids and Ottomans empires has separation but the constitution was same. Yes some war happened, Bloodshed happened . But the Muslims of khilafah was under the rule of same constitution. So why you want to make differences? Any khalif can make any rule but not against Allah s law nor Quran's law. or Iztihads law.

Mongols came and attacked kabba. that means khilafah destroyed/ that time? Some crucial time happened that time and and resolved all the problems. That is how Ottoman khilafah destroyed in 1924 by kamal ataturk. What u are saying , then it was nt 1924 it happened 7th century.

All khilafah was in the same row. in an one constitution. And you have no idea about capitalism . so u r again and again saying capitalist khilafah. khilafah on the basis of quran. Quran is not capitalist.

Yes at last agreed , all muslim needs Islam that is based or Justice and tawheed.

so no need to discuss ummayads, abbasids or ottomons as agreed they were not real Islamic..

Please read History of Kaaba to know who attacked kaaba. do not mention wrong.

muslims empires infact capitalist too called themselves khalifa. which turn khilafa into capitalist Khalifs

What is Muslim State and what is Islamic state ? That the Empires is not Islamic?

I already provided you the answer.

Islamic Rule is where there Allah's swt Rule and Allah swt rules everywhere.

Muslims state or empire encloses itself in a specific boundary. beyond that geographical boundary they cannot Rule since there is someone else who rules there.

A state where most of the citizens are Muslims is a Muslim state. A Muslim state is governed according to the whims of a Muslim ruler. On the other hand, a state where most of the people are Muslims and the state is governed according to the principles of the Qur'an and Hadith is an Islamic state.

Islamic Rule is Allah's rule and cannot be limited to a specific geographical boundary since Islam is Universal and do not believe in boundaries.

 

[Major d1]

so no need to discuss ummayads, abbasids or ottomons as agreed.

Please read History of Kaaba to know who attacked kaaba. do not mention wrong.

muslims empires infact capitalist too called themselves khalifa. which turn khilafa into capitalist Khalifs



I already provided you the answer.

Islamic Rule is where there Allah's swt Rule.

Muslims state or empire encloses itself in a specific boundary. beyond that geographical boundary they cannot Rule since there is someone else who rules there.

I know how kabba attacked. that doesn't mean khilafah destroyed. Why you moving topics here or there ?

Khalif means who rule on the behalf of Allah. Representative of Allah in this world. And Capitalist means Those who work for earing $ . Khalish doesn't work for earning $. So your allegation is not valid.

Where is muslim Empires ? Show me references? Please don't give reference of Saudi king.

I also said Islamic Rule means Where there Allah (SWT) Rule. But who will rule ? Thats is why Khalifah need those who follow the Rule of Allah (SWT0 Like Umar (RA), Osman(RA) , Ali(RA).

before 1924 there was not any boundary. The boundary was created by british.

See how boundary created-

 

[B@KH]

I know how kabba attacked. that doesn't mean khilafah destroyed. Why you moving topics here or there ?

Khalif means who rule on the behalf of Allah. Representative of Allah in this world. And Capitalist means Those who work for earing $ . Khalish doesn't work for earning $. So your allegation is not valid.

Where is muslim Empires ? Show me references? Please don't give reference of Saudi king.

I also said Islamic Rule means Where there Allah (SWT) Rule. But who will rule ? Thats is why Khalifah need those who follow the Rule of Allah (SWT0 Like Umar (RA), Osman(RA) , Ali(RA).

before 1924 there was not any boundary. The boundary was created by british.

See how boundary created-

No need to post the videos created by ignorant mammals whose poor helpless khilafah got trempled. so pity.
Its title shows it has nothing to do with islam. you cannot put this humpty dumpty together again. Peace(Islam) thru Guns and swords. Invading others and call Islamic, Only fools can do this.

Islamic Rule is Allah's Rule and cannot be destroyed. Islamic Rule Exists every where. Try to understand what is Islam only then you will be able to understand Islamic Rule.

but it is you who is trying to limit the Islamic rule in some geographical boundary like the british.