ISIL

[CENTCOM]

Troubling news reports indicate that people from the AF/PAK region are migrating to join a barbaric and ruthless organization that has left no stone unturned in showcasing their brutality and complete disregard for human life. It is shocking to know that after complete awareness of their tactics and methods of disposing off of innocent people, beheading videos, and murdering journalists, anyone would want to be a part of such insanity. Yet we hear of these, for lack of a better term, deluded people from all across the globe joining ISIL. The threat of ISIL is felt in the entire region and we continue to work with regional government s in their support for moderate opposition. We must comprehend the magnitude and the different dimensions of the Syrian equation which includes not only ISIL but also the Syrian Regime. As the U.S. State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki has stated, “It is not only ISIL targeting innocent civilians in Syria. It is also the regime. As the international community works to counter the threat of ISIL, the regime is targeting communities that are also confronting the danger of ISIL and other extremist groups. We condemn in the strongest terms the Syrian regime’s indiscriminate bombing of a densely populated neighborhood in Damascus.”

It is unfortunate to witness that instead of aspiring to become a productive member of society, some really young and impressionable minds are misguided enough that they believe in the sanctity or morality of this group or its activities.

Haroon Ahmad
DET – U.S. Central Command
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[Donatello]

It's actually good. The Iraq-Syria region is acting like a magnet. Sucking in jihadis from rest of the world. Once they go there, it's easy, just bomb them. Rather than tackling them individually all over the world, let them gather in one place, that'll make a juicy target for JDAMs.

 

[TankMan]

It's actually good. The Iraq-Syria region is acting like a magnet. Sucking in jihadis from rest of the world. Once they go there, it's easy, just bomb them. Rather than tackling them individually all over the world, let them gather in one place, that'll make a juicy target for JDAMs.

United terrorists are more dangerous than divided ones. I don't think its good. JDAMs can damage them a bit, but they're guerillas, they'll just regroup, hide and use guerilla tactics to avoid these airstrikes.
A strong ground invasion will be necessary to wipe them out (which is near impossible, they'll end up dispersing all over the region when their forces start taking casualties). When this ground invasion starts, the invaders (probably America) will have to face a lot more resistance thanks to this magnet effect.
Not good at all.

 

[Donatello]

United terrorists are more dangerous than divided ones. I don't think its good. JDAMs can damage them a bit, but they're guerillas, they'll just regroup, hide and use guerilla tactics to avoid these airstrikes.
A strong ground invasion will be necessary to wipe them out (which is near impossible, they'll end up dispersing all over the region when their forces start taking casualties). When this ground invasion starts, the invaders (probably America) will have to face a lot more resistance thanks to this magnet effect.
Not good at all.

That is why you use intelligence on the ground, and call in airstrikes. Hunting ISIL in Syria-Iraq is a lot easier than hunting them in the mountains of Afghan-Pakistan border or forests of India.

 

[Fracker]

United terrorists are more dangerous than divided ones. I don't think its good. JDAMs can damage them a bit, but they're guerillas, they'll just regroup, hide and use guerilla tactics to avoid these airstrikes.
A strong ground invasion will be necessary to wipe them out (which is near impossible, they'll end up dispersing all over the region when their forces start taking casualties). When this ground invasion starts, the invaders (probably America) will have to face a lot more resistance thanks to this magnet effect.
Not good at all.

Agree with @Donatello, if they unite and try to go straight attack against army. That would be their down fall.. Especially when they are away from Afghanistan and northern area mountains.. Most of the armies losses due to gorilla warfare.

But one thing can go wrong is, if they able to establish their own media then probably they can make it as a ideology.. Like Talibanization here.

 

[TankMan]

That is why you use intelligence on the ground, and call in airstrikes. Hunting ISIL in Syria-Iraq is a lot easier than hunting them in the mountains of Afghan-Pakistan border or forests of India.

Yes, that's true. Still, we shouldn't underestimate the power of united terrorists.

Airstrikes alone won't be able to finish them off, maybe weaken them so much that they'll be defeated by a local militia like the Kurds or whatever's left of the Iraqi Army.

 

[Donatello]

Agree with @Donatello, if they unite and try to go straight attack against army. That would be their down fall.. Especially when they are away from Afghanistan and northern area mountains.. Most of the armies losses due to gorilla warfare.

But one thing can go wrong is, if they able to establish their own media then probably they can make it as a ideology.. Like Talibanization here.

Then take out their communications system. Don't let them re-group. After taking a hit, many members of such 'fake jihadi' organizations will come to senses and lay down their arms.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Hunting ISIL in Syria-Iraq is a lot easier than hunting them in the mountains of Afghan-Pakistan border or forests of India.

Hunting ISIL was allot easier before the airstrikes, now they've dispersed themselves.

The only way the airstrikes will be effective is if the Iraqi army forces ISIL to consolidate into formations to protect towns/ cities, weapon caches.

Otherwise they're going to maintain their small unit guerrilla tactics, occasionally forming up to retake towns.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

It's actually good. The Iraq-Syria region is acting like a magnet. Sucking in jihadis from rest of the world. Once they go there, it's easy, just bomb them. Rather than tackling them individually all over the world, let them gather in one place, that'll make a juicy target for JDAMs.

Dnt put these ideas in americans' heads they might as well nuke Iraq and Syria.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Then take out their communications system. Don't let them re-group.

1) Get out all westerns
2) you got to find them.
3) figure out their chain of command and find the 'missing links'
4) Spec Ops will be required to laz/ capture high value targets.
5) Spec Ops will need to camp out at strategic passes, roads, oasis, to provide intel on who's moving back and forth.

 

[CENTCOM]

Interesting inputs everyone, I believe we have to wait and see the implementation-completion of President Obama's strategy. The sooner these heinous people are taken out the stronger message it will send to any other group that wants to resort to brutality of this magnitude in furthering their agenda.

Haroon Ahmad
DET - U.S. Central Command
United States Central Command - Urdu - MacDill Air Force Base, FL - Government Organization | Facebook

 

[Solomon2]

Islamic State left Obama with no other choice

Analysis: Even Obama can't believe that instead of stopping the wars started by President Bush, he is increasingly growing to resemble him.

Orly Azoulay

Published: 09.11.14, 11:53 / Israel Opinion

In his worst nightmares, Barack Obama never saw himself initiating a war to destroy an entity, but ISIS left him no choice. Against his own will, Obama is about to wage a war he was dragged into extremely reluctantly.

Even before building his strategy for the presidential race, Obama positioned himself as a statesman who opposed the war in Iraq. In Chicago's public squares, he delivered fiery speeches, claiming that he was not against wars in principle, only unjustified ones.

He was among the 20 percent who opposed the war at the time, and he said it out loud. Several years later, it was one of the reasons he was elected president.

Now Obama finds himself leading the American army back to Iraq, and Syria too, albeit in a more limited form. The Islamic State fighters left him no other choice.

The war, which will go down in history as the one waged by Obama, is a war against evil, cruelty, extremism; it take aim at the group that spat in the face of the American nation when it disregarded its warning and brutally and ostentatiously executed some of its citizens.

Obama took quite a while before deciding on a response. At first he said, candidly, that he had no clear strategy against ISIS. He then changed his tone and clarified that his goal was to destroy the Islamic State organization, even if this is not achieved immediately, but over time.

Obama, who received the Nobel Peace Prize in the immediate aftermath of his election as president - a down payment for the peace he would bring in the future and the reconciliation he promised - is about to drag America and its allies into a war he never wanted.

Although his liberal supporters understand that the president cannot sit idly by in the face of such horrors, they are asking time and again, with disappointment and bitterness, what actually prevented Obama from remaining loyal to his worldview, the one which brought him to the White House. Why didn't he give reconciliation between the West and Islam a real chance; why he didn't really end the wars Bush started, and why he didn't shut down Guantanamo Bay prison as he had pledged on his first day at the White House.

Liberals, who basically make up half of America, believe that if Obama had done just that in his six years in office, they wouldn't had to have reached a situation in which the government's hand draws ever closer to the trigger, and the president's words sound remarkably similar to the comments made by Bush in the aftermath of the attack on America that took place exacrly 13 years ago today.

So now Obama sounds more and more like his predecessor, and those who know him personally say even he can't believe it's happening to him. But it is.

 

[livingdead]

Can we just agree on what to call them.. ISIS as a name really caught on..