ISI to have more civilians at the top

[S.Y.A]

Politicians are elected or rejected based on their performance.

really?

 

[Solomon2]

I think rather than doing these cheap tactics there is a need of removing political rule of isi and there is a need to create a highly powerful and independent agency .. independent from both polticians and army having investigative and prosecution powers against judiciary, burecracy, parliment and military ... this agency has to be highly open in the conduct and every case closed by them should be open for public scuitny no matter how sensitive the issue is ...

Independent of politicians and army? How would you appoint its officials and remove its incompetents and power-abusers?

 

[livingdead]

may be ISI should learn from RAW... much more capable organization(although probably with bigger budget and reach)... its all civilian directly under civilian leadership..
I have not seen opposition parties in India accusing govt of nepotism while appointing RAW chief(although political leaning plays its part but there is meritocracy too). its usually natural career progression of bureaucrats/police officials.

 

[The Accountant]

Independent of politicians and army? How would you appoint its officials and remove its incompetents and power-abusers?

agency can appoint its own personnal and accountability institutes are there for check and balances ...

really?

some people are living in parallel world ... Even NA 120 is not an eye opener ...

 

[The Sandman]

I think it's a good step?

 

[Solomon2]

agency can appoint its own personnal and accountability institutes are there for check and balances ...

No external accountability is a formula for tyranny; bureaucracies always seek to increase their budget and sphere of influence unless checked by externals And it won't be apolitical at all: the politics that matter will be the bureaucratic maneuverings within the agency.

 

[wiseone2]

I think rather than doing these cheap tactics there is a need of removing political rule of isi and there is a need to create a highly powerful and independent agency .. independent from both polticians and army having investigative and prosecution powers against judiciary, burecracy, parliment and military ... this agency has to be highly open in the conduct and every case closed by them should be open for public scuitny no matter how sensitive the issue is ... we deserve to know the elite is doing ... only then we can get rid of this mafia

you want a law enforcement agency with considerable investigative and moderate set of intelligence capabilities

 

[The Accountant]

you want a law enforcement agency with considerable investigative and moderate set of intelligence capabilities

Yes but independence is key both from establishment and government ...

 

[truthseer]

Ganja league & gadari party are doing whatever they can harm PA & Intel agencies.

First Gadari were following the US script of breaking ISI thankfully PA came strong against these BS steps & now Ganja league doing the same. PA will have to come hard against such BS as these intentions are clear destroy ISI so that these treacherous bastards could harm Pakistan easily.

Ganja won't be doing any hiring. Hiring will be internal, by ISI. The presence of more civilians can be a good thing. No offence to the Armed Forces, but they have one way of thinking, and civilians another, and merging of both views is for the best

may be ISI should learn from RAW... much more capable organization(although probably with bigger budget and reach)... its all civilian directly under civilian leadership..

Omg, you actually believe this

ISI is much more capable than RAW is. It's like me claiming ISI is better than Mossad.

 

[livingdead]

Ganja won't be doing any hiring. Hiring will be internal, by ISI. The presence of more civilians can be a good thing. No offence to the Armed Forces, but they have one way of thinking, and civilians another, and merging of both views is for the best


Omg, you actually believe this

ISI is much more capable than RAW is. It's like me claiming ISI is better than Mossad.

yes I do, RAW has the credibility and history on its side. ISI has youtube.

 

[truthseer]

yes I do, RAW has the credibility and history on its side. ISI has youtube.

Mumbai

 

[livingdead]

Mumbai

pakistan....
i agree mumbai was a coup for isi but its an exception than rule.... RAW has much deeper reach.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Civilian incompetency knows no bounds in Pakistan. The ISI should be careful. This is national security. Civilians elected a threat to national security, NS and made him qualified again. Only Pakistani civilians can pull off these types of detrimental acts.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Civilian incompetency knows no bounds in Pakistan. The ISI should be careful. This is national security. Civilians elected a threat to national security, NS and made him qualified again. Only Pakistani civilians can pull off these types of detrimental acts.

And most of them are extremely stupid and incompetent.A inspector from ISI came to my home few days ago for security clearance for job and he did not know how to translate ranks of airforce to army .

 

[wiseone2]

Yes but independence is key both from establishment and government ...

The FBI is a good template to follow