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At least military accepted its department kidnapped IG Sindh and that they carry out extra judicial kidnappings. This is a good start.

Soon they will accept PTI was groomed and put in place by the military officers due to same public pressure.
 
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At least military accepted its department kidnapped IG Sindh and that they carry out extra judicial kidnappings. This is a good start.

Soon they will accept PTI was groomed and put in place by the military officers due to same public pressure.
PTI got 1.7 crore votes in 2018 from Chitral to Lyari and will soon take over GB and AJK keep crying :D
What about the Police Officers who failed to take action on Quaid's Mazar's desecration and the ones who declared the FIR against Safdar to be fake. Does this mean that after today no one should remind anyone of their duty? Like the police, now the army, ISI, and Rangers should also remain careless and silent in the face of evil? Who is the custodian to make sure the safety of people, so how IG ignores his duty on who is pressure? My Salute to ISI who took some action in the face of evil.
Um e Rabab wasnt allowed to protest infront of Bhutto ka mazar but Quaid ka mizar is fare game for them
 
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PTI got 1.7 crore votes in 2018 from Chitral to Lyari and will soon take over GB and AJK keep crying :D

Um e Rabab wasnt allowed to protest infront of Bhutto ka mazar but Quaid ka mizar is fare game for them

Quaid-e-Azam was a political leader and you turned his tomb into mazar.
 
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Bro firstly SHO is not RANGERS :D

I saw the video, I can only see him arguing and insisting on FIR. Not for once I saw him giving any threats. Have you watched the video yourself?

What about Ali Zaidi and Governor Ismaeel statements??
Where is the video when Sindh police was pressurized by PPP leadership to not file FIR against Captain Safdar?

Do you have any evidence that Sindh police was pressurized by PPP leadership?? IG and other police officials said there was no pressure from provincial government.
 
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It's very amusing for people like me to see how a criminal Muhammad Safdar is not being asked why he broke the law or why no one is asking incompetent Karachi police why they still didn't act on it, charge him with it, but the guys who wake up the Police to do their jobs are suspended
You and me both. No one seems to be bothered on the crime being committed and criminal going Scot free. Such are yhr sad state of affairs in our country and people who support it.
 
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This type of situation could have been clearly avoided had the Sindh police carried its duties. Safdar should have been arrested on the spot.

He would get bail in an hour. The crime was not big enough as it was hyped. Even PTi had to insert other charges like "threatened to kill" etc.
 
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I respectfully disagree, more accountability of politicians is fine, but there are levels to this. The army is at the top, crooked judges and politicians, business persons are usually a few rungs below. When there is no universal rule of law, every powerful person is able to beat on the person weaker than him, this is the system we have.
Army at the top ? haha Army has an approval rating of 84% top of all political parties and departments, when was the last time you got a thrashing from an Army man ? It happens to you daily at the Nakas and Police Stations in Sind. Army acts on issues of national security and this is its CONSTITUTIONAL MANDATE
 
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Nothing out of ordinary just a transfer to put a lid on this whole episode. This justifies their action quite well, just some excessive use of force in anguish, on a sensitive untoward incident that was not dealt with appropriately.
Well now we can safely gauge the anger in the army as a whole against PDM. I guess COAS will be under pressure to act against them rather then a deal now :)

Thank the God not every organization/department and individual is dealing with things as they please based on their own unique perceptions of the situation and circumstances. Had any other officer acted outside his/her jurisdiction in such an extreme manner, he/she would not only be terminated from the job but also would have been made to face justice.

There are levels of crime, the lowest would be of an ordinary criminal kidnapping another ordinary citizen, a higher level of crime would be an ordinary citizen kidnapping an official, an even higher level of crime would be an official kidnapping a citizen using his official position and the most serious of all kidnappings would be the kidnapping of a senior official by other officials using their official positions...….Justice should always befit the crime otherwise it is not justice, mere eyewash.
 
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Do you have any evidence that Sindh police was pressurized by PPP leadership?? IG and other police officials said there was no pressure from provincial government.
If there was no pressure from PPP, why did it take abduction of IG Sindh to register FIR against Captain Safdar? Of course Sindh police was under pressure or they would have filed FIR immediately.
He would get bail in an hour. The crime was not big enough as it was hyped. Even PTi had to insert other charges like "threatened to kill" etc.
Of course. But if Sindh police itself had filed FIR and arrested Captain Safdar, this could break up PDM alliance as he was guest of PPP. So Rangers / ISI had to abduct IG to file FIR and make him arrest Safdar. Thus they took all the blame instead of PPP.
 
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Well I guess their were only 2 who acted in anguish at the desecration of Quaid's Tomb (which is justified).
I like how they pointed out the police action to be wanting and slow, if police had done their duty on such a regrettable event, could have avoided the whole scenario. :)

Steeping out of constitutional and institutional boundaries is a crime as per law and no crime is justified.

There is a due course of justice which could have taken place eventually, there was no reason to 'bypass, circumvent and twist' the law for personal satisfaction.



And what is the punishment for political interference in police matters, and stopping due process of law in any other country? :D

Political interference is jaiz and army interference is not. Hahaha :D

Neither is moral, however the former is 'legal' whether you like it or not whereas later is illegal.
 
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He would get bail in an hour. The crime was not big enough as it was hyped. Even PTi had to insert other charges like "threatened to kill" etc.
Of course. But if Sindh police itself had filed FIR and arrested Captain Safdar, this could break up PDM alliance as he was guest of PPP. So Rangers / ISI had to abduct IG to file FIR and make him arrest Safdar. Thus they took all the blame instead of PPP.
Mariam is at least better then charsi.
Maryam Nawaz is a convicted criminal from NAB court. She is out of jail on conditional bail which can be taken away anytime.
 
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There is no such need at all. Names of official agencies are not disclosed.

Sind Police is a bunch of baygharats. Shame on you comparing Sind police with Pak Army.

Sind Police is OK with Safdar Awan / Maryam MUJRA going on Mazar E Qaid ? Where was SIND POLICE WELL ORGANIZED RESPONSE at that time ?

All organizations serve their own interests above state interests, Sindh police will obey orders that they receive from their seniors the same as from bureaucracy and politicians who control their transfer, posting, suspension and ascension etc.

Similarly, military men will obey their seniors without question even when ordered to do illegal/immoral activities; not obeying orders would eventually lead to chaos and indiscipline which is why any act of insubordination is simply not accepted.
 
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If there was no pressure from PPP, why did it take abduction of IG Sindh to register FIR against Captain Safdar? Of course Sindh police was under pressure or they would have filed FIR immediately.

Of course. But if Sindh police itself had filed FIR and arrested Captain Safdar, this could break up PDM alliance as he was guest of PPP. So Rangers / ISI had to abduct IG to file FIR and make him arrest Safdar. Thus they took all the blame instead of PPP.

Why police should file an FIR including "threat to kill" while there was no evidence??
 
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