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WASHINGTON: Mansoor Ijaz, the man who stirred Pakistan's 'memogate', has alleged that Pakistan's spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), especially its 'S' or strategic wing, was not in government control and was interfering in Afghanistan's political affairs.

There was considerable evidence available on the spy agency's involvement in setting the political stage in Pakistan by manipulating election results, the Pakistani-American businessman told CNN in an interview. ISI also interferes in the political affairs of Afghanistan by using the Haqqani network, he said.

"The ISI has two critical branches in it, one is called CT for counterterrorism, and the other is the S branch for strategic - it's sort of the arm of the ISI that does everything from political interventions in other countries, for example, Afghanistan, which is what they're doing through the Haqqani Network and the Taliban right now," Ijaz said.

"They do a lot of political interventions in their own country. You know, there are many times when it has been reported in the past and authentically reported and authoritatively reported by the Pakistani press that S Branch was involved in manipulating elections and doing things of that nature inside Pakistan," he said.

"So it's an organ of the state that nobody can control, and it is essentially the organ of the state that the army and the intelligence wings are using to shall we say coordinate or obstruct what it is that the political side of the government, the civilian side of the governments do in Pakistan," Ijaz said.

Asked about the effect of his op-ed that stirred the memogate Ijaz said: "There will never be a time in my view where the military is subservient to the civilians in our lifetime. It may take 30, 40 years for that transformation to come.

"But when it does come, at least what we did was make sure the civilian government has an equal shoulder to the military and the judiciary."

ISI not in Pakistan government control: Mansoor Ijaz - The Economic Times
 
Let us imagine that a few decades from now, the head of ISI is a nut case and uses ISI assets in killing leaders of international importance. What can Pakistan do to stop him ? Nothing.

No accountability = No discipline.
 
Thats not new, everybody knows that.. ********** (this part has been edited)
 
first good new of 2011:lol:

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Let us imagine that a few decades from now, the head of ISI is a nut case and uses ISI assets in killing leaders of international importance. What can Pakistan do to stop him ? Nothing.

No accountability = No discipline.


he is not ramu kaka :rofl:
 
Let us imagine that a few decades from now, the head of ISI is a nut case and uses ISI assets in killing leaders of international importance. What can Pakistan do to stop him ? Nothing.

No accountability = No discipline.

Let us predict ISI destroying whole India. What can India do with it? Nothing.
P.S. Stop being a d**k head and stop imagining things.
 
Thats not new, everybody knows that.. Same is the case with CIA..

Then stop blaming USA and start blaming CIA from today onwards.. Its never to late.

Secret agencies are tools of nation to work on their behalf. If its lets loose the country goes into chaos and into lawlessness.



If its better than government, ask them to stand in elections and all u guys vote them to power.

Problem solved.
 
Thats not new, everybody knows that.. Same is the case with CIA..

The CIA is absolutely controlled by the American President. There is no comparison between the strength of American civilian control over the CIA and that of the civilians of the GoP over the ISI. It is night compared to day (where the ISI is "night" and the CIA is "day"). Furthermore, the CIA is absolutely forbidden to, and does not, interfere in domestic American politics.
 
ISI does not need to be in control of this man:

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Pakistan has the worst politicians in the region, but the best intelligence agency in the region.
 
Then stop blaming USA and start blaming CIA from today onwards.. Its never to late.

Secret agencies are tools of nation to work on their behalf. If its lets loose the country goes into chaos and into lawlessness.



If its better than government, ask them to stand in elections and all u guys vote them to power.

Problem solved.

How would you relate this BS with my post?
 
ISI does not need to be in control of this man:

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Pakistan has the worst politicians in the region, but the best intelligence agency in the region.

Government is not that man alone. Its a set of rules, the ministers, legislators, administrators, and arbitrators in the administrative bureaucracy who control a state at a given time, and to the system of government by which they are organized.

Government is the means by which state policy is enforced, as well as the mechanism for determining the policy of the state.


Anyway its a behavior seen even in India to shower all blames to the head of the state for all misgivings, so nothing surprising here.
 
Government is not that man alone. Its a set of rules, the ministers, legislators, administrators, and arbitrators in the administrative bureaucracy who control a state at a given time, and to the system of government by which they are organized.

Government is the means by which state policy is enforced, as well as the mechanism for determining the policy of the state.

Anyway its a behavior seen even in India to shower all blames to the head of the state for all misgivings, so nothing surprising here.

You seem to unaware of Pakistan's government hierarchy.
 

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