"ISI is My Enemy"- Shahabuddin Liwal, a member of the Taliban ministry's cultural commission .

[Titanium100]

First of all, Taliban are not a military threat to Pakistan and secondly the only competition anyone can have with Afghanistan is a race to the bottom. You need to focus on the message and make less assumptions on tone. I intended what I wrote to be very matter of fact.

Then what is this tone? don't be an imbecile. Don't perceive things from where they aren't. There is alot of conspiracy against Pakistan but that is the least place to have such doubts about I can assure you. don't second guess anything

 

[TNT]

You guys need to understand and see their situation. Inside Afghanistan, majority of afghans see taliban as Pakistani puppets. They have to adopt such tactics to dispel this notion. The guy in video says we fought so many uears for afghans and not Pakistan and we have all capability to work without interference of Pakistan.

 

[Skywalker]

Same thing they did to Americans, whose boots our establishment can't stop licking.

yet you are living in same country and doing anything to including licking to earn some living...what an irony.

 

[TNT]

They will never attack the west again or take money from another Bin Laden. This is how you teach these cockroaches a lesson. They were happy to spend billions and billions to make their life a misery. It was a generational lesson.

Pakistan on the other hand, borders wide open, bhai bhai Just like Indians, it's all about me me me, take take take.

Its funny how u ppl suddenly side with americans when it comes to the other sect, do u ppl have any honor and imaan? The same US u shout at now became brave fighter.
You are the idiot here. Its the west that will never dare to attack Afghanistan or try to take it over again. A harsh lesson was learnt by the west. The lesson those hypocrite lizards in south should learn. And Pakistan will always be bhai bhai with afghan brothers, we will not let india or their puppy iran create misteust again. The true powerful group is now in power and u ppl are crying.

 

[Vapnope]

What appears, to me, is that the current setup in Afghanistan is not going to last long; because they are in no mood to rectify themselves.

200% on the money.

Before the Kabul takeover i posted about it that Taliban will not accept Durand line again just like they didn't, back in Geneva accord.

Unfortunately, we have very limited options in Afghanistan and some of us knew that it isn't going to be rosy picture once talibs takeover but this was the lesser evil available to us in comparison to Ghani regime.

 

[SIPRA]

200% on the money.

Before the Kabul takeover i posted about it that Taliban will not accept Durand line again just like they didn't, back in Geneva accord.

Unfortunately, we have very limited options in Afghanistan and some of us knew that it isn't going to be rosy picture once talibs takeover but this was the lesser evil available to us in comparison to Ghani regime.

Correct. Fully agree. But, unfortunately, many Pakistanis don't comprehend this, and unnecessarily enter into pro- and anti- Taliban argument, instead of looking into this phenomenon in a geopolitical perspective, in view of Pakistan's security concerns.

 

[Menace2Society]

Its funny how u ppl suddenly side with americans when it comes to the other sect, do u ppl have any honor and imaan? The same US u shout at now became brave fighter.
You are the idiot here. Its the west that will never dare to attack Afghanistan or try to take it over again. A harsh lesson was learnt by the west. The lesson those hypocrite lizards in south should learn. And Pakistan will always be bhai bhai with afghan brothers, we will not let india or their puppy iran create misteust again. The true powerful group is now in power and u ppl are crying.

USA gear won us the 65 war. USA helped Pakistan set up their army in the 50s.

Afghanistan do not recognise the durand line, attacked Pakistan in the 50s when it was a newborn and cost Pakistan $100 billion dollars just because they didn't back Taliban/Al Qaeda/Bin Laden.

Did USA do the APS massacre or was it Afghans?

10 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan who have given support to TTP.

Brothers? Just because you are brainwashed doesn't mean I can't see the truth in your reality.

 

[SD 10]

anyone see its coming ? taliban VS taliban is not too far .

Yeah , although i was hoping it wouldn`t happen but it looks like it is heading in that direction.
@Imran Khan Afghan history is filled with civil wars.................. not a good look.

 

[SD 10]

USA gear won us the 65 war. USA helped Pakistan set up their army in the 50s.

Afghanistan do not recognise the durand line, attacked Pakistan in the 50s when it was a newborn and cost Pakistan $100 billion dollars just because they didn't back Taliban/Al Qaeda/Bin Laden.

Did USA do the APS massacre or was it Afghans?

10 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan who have given support to TTP.

Brothers? Just because you are brainwashed doesn't mean I can't see the truth in your reality.

Brother i get your point but you have Afghans who favour Pakistan too, the lower class that has trade with Pakistan theya are pro Pakistan.... have met with many of them but they dont get reported on tv or highlighted as such... Yes there are some shits but they needs to be eliminated ust like american does it in mexco, we need similar actions... hit them in their homes.

 

[Menace2Society]

Brother i get your point but you have Afghans who favour Pakistan too, the lower class that has trade with Pakistan theya are pro Pakistan.... have met with many of them but they dont get reported on tv or highlighted as such... Yes there are some shits but they needs to be eliminated ust like american does it in mexco, we need similar actions... hit them in their homes.

I understand your position, you are in between a rock and a hard place.

I just don't understand how Taliban can accuse Pakistan of backing USA when they had no choice, Pakistan would never back Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Instead of accepting where they went wrong in their support to Al Qaeda, they are angry at Pakistan for not providing support for their f**kup

This has happened because Pakistan has treated them with too much kindness and its a one way relationship as they do not respect your border or are willing to recognise it as a hard border. They have been using you.

If Turkey had a porous border with Syria, I can guarantee you ISIS would have gone into Turkey and do the same. What has saved Turkey is their ideology and border controls.

 

[SD 10]

I understand your position, you are in between a rock and a hard place.

I just don't understand how Taliban can accuse Pakistan of backing USA when they had no choice, Pakistan would never back Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Instead of accepting where they went wrong in their support to Al Qaeda, they are angry at Pakistan for not providing support

This has happened because Pakistan has treated them with too much kindness and its a one way relationship as they do not respect your border or are willing to recognise it as a hard border. They have been using you.

If Turkey had a porous border with Syria, I can guarantee you ISIS would have gone into Turkey and do the same. What has saved Turkey is their ideology and border controls.

Yes we should have established a buffer zone with afghan border, i supported that idea....... Now the afghan Taliban have a senior leadership and a young ones..... The ones speaking against Pakistan are of different fractions, as you can see they are not a single entity. We will see how this situation evolves.... will they get sidelined or get more prominent.......But yeah Pak would have never supported alqaeda or should i say couldn`t afford to .

 

[CatSultan]

Video : #ISI is My Enemy, Shahabuddin Liwal, a member of the #Taliban ministry's cultural commission .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1470017112282390529

"Enemy" might be taking it a bit too far. No foreign intelligence organization is a friend, obviously. They just sometimes have shared interests.

 

[CatSultan]

Did he mean ISIS?

 

[Adonis]

I am least worried about them and this is IEA official stance via spokesman yesterday..

“We advise TTP to focus on peace and stability in their country. This is very important so they can prevent any chance for enemies to interfere in the region and in Pakistan. And we request Pakistan to look into their demands for the better of the region and Pakistan.”

"The IEA stance is that we do not interfere in other countries’ affairs. We do not interfere in Pakistan’s affairs.”

Hence my biggest worry is actully people like @Trango Towers who are inside our borders

There is much more to your comments on the thread...... Taliban has realised that if they keep affiliated to Pakistan, their recognition, dole, grants, money from West, India will remain a distant dream..... hence they want to shrug off the label of Pakistan's puppet (or at least this is what they want world to assume). US is now dealing with Talibs directly in Doha....and giving dictations...

This belief of stronger Pakistan is in interest of all, we have geographical advantage, we are the gatekeepers etc are now talks of the past..... World will keep Pakistan alive..but just alive ...and lot let of flourish...till Pakistan again start dancing to their tunes....this is the cost you have to bear for moving to Chinese camp and for "Absolutely Not".

 

[Tomcats]

IEA will start an operation on TTP if they refuse to stand down.

No they won't unless Pakistan exerts some extreme pressure on them which even then i am doubtful they will act. They have reiterated several times or so that TTP is our problem and not theirs and so in their view they are not liable to take action against them and only in 'proven circumstances' where they do a cross border attack, all in all very vague.
I've seen you in every thread trying to defend the Taliban, please don't, mind you that they are pretty horrible group and while they may be more pliable and slightly better for Pakistani interests they are far from ideal and i doubt Pakistani influence will the retained in the long run.