The problem I have with radical secular nationalist Turks (or any other race) is that you assume everyone is your enemy. You need to calm down and relax.
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@HAIDER and I are Pakistanis, so you can't except us to everything about your history as a native Turk would. Also expect that we would be informed from Turks of differing political views than you. Our main sources of information are in English, (NYT, BBC,etc.) which may be eschewed owing to Western propaganda, and Urdu talk shows like Mubashir Luqman, Dr. Shahid Masood, Harf e Raaz, Khabarnaak.
I have been hearing this for a while. Some members of MHP were claiming that Erdogan insulted Ataturk. I don't know too much about Turkish history or your political parties as I am learning.
I see that İnönü was the successor of Atatürk and negotiated the treaty before that time.
Your previous post about Erdogan insulting founding fathers seemed to imply to me that you were talking about Atatürk also.
As stated above, there are some Turks with that view. Erdogan has always been unpopular among Turkish ultra-seculars. He is not a secular leader.
Its not an obvious lie, because I don't know your internal politics and details. You can't really expect me to know your personal views on the matter. Also you are accusing me and
@HAIDER of malicious intent which is a giant jump to make.
...the conference recognized Turkish sovereignty over the straits, although there were some concessions in the form of a demilitarized zone and an international commission to supervise transit through the straits.
You guys need to stop throwing the word 'troll' around. These are large accusations, when there are actual racists and anti-Turkish personalities on this forum. You want any proof, go to one of the Uyghur threads.
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@HAIDER and I are pro-Turkish and support the government of Turkey. It makes absolutely no sense to abuse us Pakistanis. Disagreement is fine, but keep it civil.
Otherwise what right do you have to condemn some of the Arab, Chinese nationalists who attack Turks in the same way.
I'm started to see a trend among Non-Pakistani users of PDF of having unhealthy views and jumping to attack other users. Remember, this is a Pakistani forum so obviously we don't spend all day reading Turkish, Chinese, Arab history/politics.