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Is Trump handing over Afghanistan to Pakistan?

I disagree with the title. Afghanistan was never theirs to give anyone. More than 60% afghanistan is controlled by taliban and rest 40% is divided among afghan government and the persian speaking iranian groups.

Trump is leaving afghanistan to taliban, afghan government and the persian speaking groups.

These 3 groups own afghanistan and they should form Afghanistan's administration by proper elections and political practices. I hope Afghanistan doesnt opt for another civil war cuz Taliban can easily win in an armed conflict.

If Nato combined couldn't defeat Taliban then all afghanistan armed groups combined can't defeat them. Its better to engage in dialogue and political talk instead of violence . Afghanistan has had enough violence let them have peace now.

Freaking indians should pack their bags now. If india leaves , pakistan and china will leave there too.
 
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US media have reported that President Donald Trump is planning to withdraw half of American troops from Afghanistan. Analysts say the move would give the upper hand to the Taliban and their ostensible backer, Pakistan.


The Trump administration is reportedly planning to withdraw nearly 7,000 US troops – roughly half of the American military presence in the country – from Afghanistan.

US media claims that these soldiers could be heading back home within months.

These reports emerged after President Donald Trump announced Thursday that the "Islamic State" militant group had been defeated in Syria and thus the Middle Eastern country no longer required US troops there.

But the Taliban – the strongest militant force in Afghanistan – have not been defeated yet. On the contrary, their control over Afghan territories has increased manifold in the past few years. If this is the case, why must Washington reduce its presence in the war-torn country?

The US has intensified efforts to find a political solution with the Taliban in the past few months, with Zalmay Khalilzad, the US' special representative for Afghanistan, holding several high-profile talks with Taliban leaders in Qatar.

Read more: Direct talks with Taliban: 'US exploring all avenues,' State Department tells DW

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A victory for Pakistan?

These talks are being facilitated by Pakistan, whose prime minister, Imran Khan, maintains that the Islamist group can't be defeated through war.

However, both Kabul and Washington have been skeptical of Islamabad's long-term motives in Afghanistan. Afghan and US officials have repeatedly said that Pakistan backs some factions of the Taliban that destabilize the Afghan government. By doing that, the powerful Pakistani military hopes to minimize Indian influence in Afghanistan and a return of the Taliban in Afghan politics, they say.

Pakistan's military and civil establishment, analysts say, still consider the Taliban an important strategic ally, who they think should be part of the Afghan government after the NATO pullout.

Observers say that the Pakistani military hopes to regain the influence in Kabul it once enjoyed before the United States and its allies toppled the pro-Pakistan Taliban government in 2001.

Pakistan's Afghanistan policy hasn't changed since the US toppled the Taliban regime in 2001, but the Trump administration's stance toward Islamabad has wavered in the past few weeks, experts point out.

The potential US troop reduction would likely to give an upper hand to Islamabad in dictating the future political setup in Afghanistan.

Siegfried O. Wolf from the Brussels-based South Asia Democratic Forum (SADF) told DW that he was convinced that several elements within the Pakistani security apparatus still believe that the Taliban could be used as a strategic tool to counter Indian presence in Afghanistan.

Read more: 'Father of the Taliban' killed in Pakistan

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    MILITANT HAQQANI NETWORK - A BRIEF HISTORY
    Remnants of the Afghan war against Soviets
    The Haqqani Network was formed by Jalaluddin Haqqani, who fought against Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 1980s. In 1995, the Haqqani Network allied with the Taliban and the two groups captured the Afghan capital Kabul in 1996. In 2012, the US designated the group a terrorist organization. On September 4, 2018, the Taliban announced that Jalaluddin passed away after a long illness.

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'Weakening your own position'

It remains to be seen whether President Trump would actually withdraw 7,000 troops from Afghanistan, but the fact that the US Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis – one of the main supporters of a strong US military presence in Afghanistan – is leaving his post in February, 2019, has definitely created more uncertainty around the West's Afghan mission.

"If the US actually goes ahead with the troop reduction plan, it would be a manifestation of Trump's 'America First' policy," Thomas Ruttig, an expert from the Afghan Analysts Network, told DW.

"But at a time with Khalilzad is trying to negotiate with the Taliban, the troop reduction does not make any sense," he added.

"This would weaken the positions of both Washington and Kabul in the middle of peace talks," Ruttig emphasized.

But some experts are of the view that a potential troop withdrawal could be a calculated decision by Trump.

"The Taliban have repeatedly stressed that they would only make peace with the Afghan government once US troops leave the country," Wahid Muzhdah, a Kabul-based security analyst and a former Taliban official, told DW.

"Reports of the US troop reduction are probably meant to give some assurance to the Taliban – assurance that the US does not plan to stay in the country forever," Muzhda added.

Read more: Why Taliban won't make peace with Kabul

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Alienating Kabul

Attiqullah Amarkhail, a retired Afghan army general, has a different take on the situation. He said that the media reports about a possible troop reduction could be a message for the Afghan government, which is not on the same page with Khalilzad on how to pursue peace talks.

"It sends a message to Kabul that it should back the US plan or face the Taliban on its own," Amarkhail told DW.

President Ashraf Ghani's government is reportedly unhappy with Pakistan-mediated talks between the Taliban and the US. It believes that it will further weaken its position and will leave it out of the future political setup in Afghanistan. That is why Kabul once again stressed that peace negotiations should be Afghan-owned and Afghan-led.

Analysts believe that Pakistan could be the main beneficiary if the Trump administration goes ahead with troop withdrawal.

"It shows that Trump does not care about Afghanistan," said analyst Ruttig.


https://www.dw.com/en/is-trump-handing-over-afghanistan-to-pakistan/a-46832240
Good news======
Poppy price will go down then...
Or is daesh waiting to take over afg..
Usa .airlifted a very significent numer of fighters from syria to..our dearly beloved brother afghani...
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Am just curious where will be the nesting and mating area of isis...after syria...????...
Becaused usa has cloned daesh ..blackwater to such an extent...
We dont see the difference anymore....

OUR BIG BROTHER.. ... ? CHINA?..
WILL BE THE DECIDING FORCE.. FOR FUTURE... HOPE NO UUUU TURNS.. THERE
 
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NO.
Not at all.

US is withdrawing at the most only 5000-6000 troops from Afghanistan and around 8000 will remain behind.

The withdrawal will be supplemented by 2000 Blackwater & other PMC contractors who will be far more effective.

So no benefit for Pakistan.

The terrorist movement Blackwater are dead on arrival.

Blackwater are easy prey. Lunch time for Taliban. They are much maligned by both the Taliban and the current Afghan government army folks.
 
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India is actually lucky since as bad Pakistan is acts as a buffer state for India to barbaric Afghanistan otherwise India may have shared a border with them and suffered from all the problems they have brought to Pakistan.
I do find the love affair odd since it's seems be more "enemy of my enemy is a friend" sort of alliance rather than a genuine friendship.
It was only few centuries they were pillaging our cities and enslaving our people till the Sikh empire taught them a lesson and even to this day they still have a creepy ethnic chauvinism against Punjabis and afghan nationalists often refer to Pakistanis as hindus as an insult so it shows they actually don't respect Indians either. Afghanistan is a mess and offers nothing to seal the border and wish them the best and let them to deal with their own country.
 
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Pakistan always had Afghanistan, US never had it
 
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NO.
Not at all.

US is withdrawing at the most only 5000-6000 troops from Afghanistan and around 8000 will remain behind.

The withdrawal will be supplemented by 2000 Blackwater & other PMC contractors who will be far more effective.

So no benefit for Pakistan.
Those blackwater contractors could be attacked freely while in the case of US soldiers we showed restraint. We will let the Taliban have a field day with them.
 
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So what is the problem with Indians here?
Either you want Afghanistan as your playing field to do whatever you want
or else its doomsday scenario? Their can be no middle ground?
First of All What is Indian Business in Afghanistan? Its doesn't border India, it have no disputes with India. Why is all the fuss and noise?
Pakistan however have Issues with Afghanistan, the long border, the Afghan Territorial Claims on Pakistani Land and so on. We want to secure our western Flank when we have a hostile India to the east.
I have said it a 100 times Afghanistan should become a neutral country siding no one. Or it should breakup into smaller states with various regions as the national fabric holding this land together is just Foreign Presence.
Either case Foreign powers have no role in this region except arbitration and diplomacy. Bordering countries however have stakes in each other so we need our concerns to be addressed just like any other country does. If Lets just say if Afghanistan becomes a hellhole, Nothing will happen to USA or India. But Pakistan and Iran Will suffer.
Only Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan should have major role in Afghan Peace Process being directly affected by the outcome. While USA and Russia should help being major influential powers.
India should mind its own business in this regard.
 
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EVERYONE here has missed the big point. The blackwater scenerio is a big ruse. They are ONLY there to protect the afghans who are american puppets, nothing more. Their numbers are insignificant. The americans are IN FACT withdrawing from afghanistan but are using the blackwater cover to hide their defeat and withdrawal from afghanistan. They don't want a backlash and public humiliation. The recent meetings between american and Pakistani officials were in fact a cladestine agreement to let the Taliban have defacto control of afghanistan but to nut fully scuttle american interests there.
 
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NO.
Not at all.

US is withdrawing at the most only 5000-6000 troops from Afghanistan and around 8000 will remain behind.

The withdrawal will be supplemented by 2000 Blackwater & other PMC contractors who will be far more effective.

So no benefit for Pakistan.

more contractor mean more trouble = stronger Taliban = you lose again
 
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