Is this how women are treated in North America?

[Azadkashmir]

black lives matter

 

[dbc]

And back home woman live like queens, compared to woman in west, thats my observation

according to National Institute of Population Studies (NIPS) [Pakistan] 28% of Pakistani women experience violence at home. Queens indeed ...

The past few months have been harrowing for Pakistani women

It feels as though we are experiencing an epidemic of violence against women, but it has always been this way.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Hack-Hook]

according to National Institute of Population Studies (NIPS) [Pakistan] 28% of Pakistani women experience violence at home. Queens indeed ...

The past few months have been harrowing for Pakistani women

It feels as though we are experiencing an epidemic of violence against women, but it has always been this way.

www.aljazeera.com

if its 28% then its better than USA

Quick Facts about Domestic Violence in the United States

More than 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced either physical violence, rape, or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.

www.planstreetinc.com

How many US households experience domestic violence?


1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. This includes a range of behaviors (e.g. slapping, shoving, pushing) and in some cases might not be considered "domestic violence." 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner.

and France is not that better

Domestic violence cases jump 30% during lockdown in France

Those confined at home with abusive partners are at increased risk during the coronavirus pandemic.

www.euronews.com

Then why usually people like you have the perception of Black is being discriminated or America is not safe??

And then how much you know about the Black People in America to form your own opinion??

such posts

Is this how women are treated in North America?

You in the West have enough of your own issues in the West... Don't talk to us about women's rights. We gave women their right. You have men stripping infront of children sickness!!

defence.pk

 

[Bilal9]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609682665820618767

Very Sad. Happened in Calgary, Canada I believe.

Calgary is the most conservative city in Canada and is the most "impolite" of all Canadian cities.

Basically the wild wild west - home of Canadian uneducated trailer trash.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

if its 28% then its better than USA

Quick Facts about Domestic Violence in the United States

More than 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced either physical violence, rape, or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.

www.planstreetinc.com

and France is not that better

Domestic violence cases jump 30% during lockdown in France

Those confined at home with abusive partners are at increased risk during the coronavirus pandemic.

www.euronews.com

such posts

Is this how women are treated in North America?

You in the West have enough of your own issues in the West... Don't talk to us about women's rights. We gave women their right. You have men stripping infront of children sickness!!

defence.pk

How many US households experience domestic violence?


1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced some form of physical violence by an intimate partner. This includes a range of behaviors (e.g. slapping, shoving, pushing) and in some cases might not be considered "domestic violence." 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner.

Come on how many people have never been pushed or shoved by an upset girlfriend or spouse? I can't believe it's only 1 in 4.

 

[Bilal9]

according to National Institute of Population Studies (NIPS) [Pakistan] 28% of Pakistani women experience violence at home. Queens indeed ...

The past few months have been harrowing for Pakistani women

It feels as though we are experiencing an epidemic of violence against women, but it has always been this way.

www.aljazeera.com

Why don't we look into French statistics too ?

Domestic violence: yearly number of women victims in France | Statista

This diagram gives information on the average yearly number of women victims of physical and/or sexual violence from their spouse or former spouse in France from 2014 to 2020, by type of violence suffered.

www.statista.com

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France Is in Denial About Domestic Violence​

The country’s culture of seduction has enabled an epidemic of misogynist crime.​

By Meaghan Beatley, a journalist based in Barcelona.

International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women protesters in France
Protesters take to the streets during the International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women in Toulouse, France, on on Nov. 23, 2019. ALAIN PITTON/NURPHOTO VIA GETTY IMAGES

When police knocked on her door in the early morning hours of Dec. 23, 2020, Valérie (a pseudonym to protect her identity) instinctively knew it had something to do with her ex-husband. The charming, funny, and seductive man she thought she had married in 2012 was, it turned out, a violent and paranoid master manipulator convinced of the world’s imminent end, for which he prepared by collecting canned food, weapons, and military radios—to communicate after the grids collapsed. Since she had left him in 2013, Frédérik Limol had repeatedly threatened to murder both her and their young daughter. According to Valérie’s lawyer, Wissam Bayeh, she reported him to the police at least three times, and, on other occasions, warned them that he was armed and dangerous. But, like a modern-day Cassandra, her complaints fell on deaf ears. “It was a permanent nightmare,” Bayeh said. “He’d sworn to poison her life, and he was succeeding.”
In the wee hours of that dark December morning, Limol made good on his threats of violence. Only Valérie wasn’t the target. A few hours before police arrived at Valérie’s door to escort her and her daughter to safety, Limol had shot four police officers as they responded to a domestic violence distress call at his home a few miles outside the tiny village of Saint-Just in central France. “Law enforcement suddenly discovered that violent men can be violent with everyone, not just with their wives or girlfriends,” said Suzy Rojtman, spokesperson of the National Collective for the Rights of Women, a coalition of feminist groups, unions, and political parties.


A woman—Limol’s most recent partner—had been perched on the roof of their large stone house while he stalked the grounds below wearing a bulletproof vest and wielding an AR-15. He shot the responding officers, set the house ablaze, and fled in a four-wheel-drive vehicle. Backup police found him later that morning less than a mile down the road. He had crashed his car into a tree, then turned a Glock pistol on himself. The woman survived the ordeal, but three police officers did not.

The news quickly spread across France, where gun violence is relatively rare. The regional paper La Montagne—which, just two days prior, had run an entire article on a man’s conviction for firing two shots in the air—featured a single word on the front page of its Dec. 24 edition: “Carnage,” above a picture of a military helicopter hovering above the scene of the crime. National media ran headlines evoking the “war scene” at Saint-Just, soon to be echoed by international outlets, including the Guardian and the New York Times. The news channel TF1 ran a lengthy segment on the growing dangers facing law enforcement in France.

In these Hollywood-esque scenes, the women Limol had terrorized were relegated to bit parts, their more mundane stories of intimate partner abuse eclipsed by the brazen act of public violence that followed. “What started this violence against the police was domestic violence, and we hardly talk about that,” Rojtman said.

While data specific to France is limited, the link between domestic violence and public violence is well documented elsewhere. In the United States, the perpetrator in more than half of mass shootings between 2009 and 2018 shot a current or former intimate partner or a family member, in addition to others. A U.S. study spanning from 1980 to 2006 found that domestic violence calls resulted in more than 4,000 officer assaults and six deaths on average each year. (French government data on police injuries and deaths does not specify the nature of the call.)

In 2019, 146 women were killed by an intimate partner in France, making it one of the more dangerous countries for women in Europe, behind Northern Ireland and Germany. While women come out to protest each year on Nov. 25 for International Day for the Elimination of Violence Against Women, and the term “femicide”—the murder of women on account of their gender—is now widely used, the threat of gender-based violence is still largely perceived as a remote one, the kind that does not happen in nice villages like Saint-Just. A France2 news segment in the wake of the Dec. 23 killings illustrated this well: While it included domestic violence as part of its coverage of the Limol affair, its focus was intimate partner violence far afield, on the French island of Réunion, off the coast of Madagascar. Footage from a police station showed white police officers processing Black couples accused of domestic violence.

“There’s a real blockage in France,” Rojtman said. Her collective was born in 1996 on the heels of a 40,000-strong feminist protest against the then-incoming administration’s decision to grant amnesty to anti-abortion activists. But she said that violence against women has not succeeded in mobilizing women the way abortion did.

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Liberté, Égalité, Virilité​

The French don't just tolerate their politicians' sexual dalliances -- they demand them.
EXCERPT | ELAINE SCIOLINO

France is the birthplace of “courtly love” and revered around the world as a cradle of seduction. Rojtman believes that these cultural touchstones may be preventing a more aggressive response to gender-based violence. She points to the now famous letter signed by 100 high-profile French women condemning the #MeToo movement as trying to hinder women’s sexual freedom. And it was only this January that the French Senate approved a law setting an age of consent: 13 years old.

France’s resistance to cracking down harder on gender-based violence contrasts with nearby Spain, which, in 2004, passed a pioneering law that established harsher penalties for offenders and made prevention of gender-based violence a priority. Rojtman’s collective drafted a similar bill in 2006 and presented it to the French government. Though some of the proposed measures were included in a law passed in 2010 aimed at protecting women from abusive partners, most were discarded. What laws do exist, she said, “don’t go far enough, or aren’t applied.”

In some cases, they can be manipulated to further victimize survivors. Before his death, Limol had brought a case against Valérie claiming that she had violated his parental rights by failing to notify him of a change of address. “For some time now, it’s become trendy to talk about things like ‘the year against violence,’ actions taken to fight gender-based violence, the word ‘femicide,’ etc.,” Bayeh said. “But in reality, nothing changes.”

The perception that intimate partner violence is a private family matter runs deep. “People close their eyes to it,” said Natalie Conte, who runs a bakery in Ambert, the town of 7,000 where the slain police were headquartered. Residents of the town were blindsided by the shooting. “Knowing they’re no longer here, it’s traumatizing,” Conte added. “And Saint-Just, where it happened, it’s so small, it’s a tiny village, we know most people there. It’s just shocking.”

A few miles down the road, Saint-Just is the kind of rural idyll into which American movies love to drop disaffected writers in search of inspiration, a cluster of stone houses with painted wooden shutters surrounding a squat stone church and, before it, a monument to the village’s lost combatants: two names for World War II, 40 for World War I.

On a snowy morning in January, three men in their 60s, the only people out, gamely chatted about the village’s dwindling numbers (down to half during the winter; many of the houses are summer homes for people from the regional capital, Clermont-Ferrand) and the kind of stone the houses are built out of (lime, not volcanic rock, like further south in the region). But they politely declined to comment on the events of Dec. 23. Limol was a recent arrival and an out-of-towner; they didn’t know him, they said. They’re weary of the press, who have flooded their otherwise peaceful village the last few weeks.
“It’s that way for the pilgrimage,” one said, jokingly pointing down the road toward what remains of Limol’s house: a blackened stone carcass with the terra cotta roof burned off.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Come on how many people have never been pushed or shoved by an upset girlfriend or spouse? I can't believe it's only 1 in 4.0

I knew it and its also the case for statistic for the rest of the world , its not like in USA and France its push and shove or speak loudly , but in middle-east and Pakistan its treating your partner WWE style

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

according to National Institute of Population Studies (NIPS) [Pakistan] 28% of Pakistani women experience violence at home. Queens indeed ...

The past few months have been harrowing for Pakistani women

It feels as though we are experiencing an epidemic of violence against women, but it has always been this way.

www.aljazeera.com

Its ironic when Pak try talkin about US cops forgetting the shit they face in their own country.

Id fukin take the US police over Pak police any day.

Unless off course i was a black man.

I knew it and its also the case for statistic for the rest of the world , its not like in USA and France its push and shove or speak loudly , but in middle-east and Pakistan its treating your partner WWE style

Lol, sad reality.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I guess black African people are also notorious liars to Pakistanis too since apparently any talk of discrimination by non-Whites sounds ludicrous.

Here is the gist of the video:

People stereotype black ppl as poor and unattractive.

Im honest, can you also try that?
Would you live in a society that thinks you are poor or one where a cop kight shoot you and the society stereotypes you as both poor and a suspect?

We arent perfect but i think we are a bit better at least in this regard.

I knew it and its also the case for statistic for the rest of the world , its not like in USA and France its push and shove or speak loudly , but in middle-east and Pakistan its treating your partner WWE style

You guys also have Makranis in Sistan, prolly face the same problem?

 

[jamahir]

Look at this little Viet boy going nuts on this thread. You probably wake up wishing you were white everyday?

Can't even put the Vietnamese flag in "origin flag" section. American used to see your people Vietnamese as their sex slaves .... although if you search web , you still can find out pics of Vietnamese girls and women raped by USA solders... They fucking raped your entire country and killed millions of your people yet you worship them The only people spinning in their graves are your fellow Vietnamese who were killed in the millions by the US.

Why does the truth always seem to hurt you? Nothing wrong happens in the paradise US right?

@jhungary @dbc, why negatives for ^^^ ?

no, thats not how they treated
They are treated like this,
An irish friend of mine use to say they are dumpsters, dump as much as u can in one and then on to the other, and that is the reality of women rights in west, they have given them rights but they are just an allusion, instead they placed standards upon them and in their mindsets having more bodies, partying, getting a job makes them strong and independent woman but in reality it makes life easey for men, u don't have to get married to get laid, u can live with one without marriage, she will be paying the bill, contributing half in half, and u can end everything with out worrying about what her family will do to u. And back home woman live like queens, compared to woman in west, thats my observation

As against typical glorious desi "men" who get dicked by mullahs, live an extremely Capitalist dog-eat-dog life of life-long "paying the bills" which they pass on to their children to never get out of the cycle, be irrational and mob-minded to the extreme doing three religious pilgrimages every five years and treat females like chattel who can be honor-killed, deprived of social movement, deprived of socio-economic freedom, be gangraped not so much for sex but to become an accessible victim for extreme torture like cutting away of the breasts, getting their vagina inserted with iron rods, have their eyes gouged out and their bodies burned with readily available cigarettes all because they were female and if nothing else be the victims of nonsense misogynist jokes and be denied of their existence of being female ? You claimed to me that you have been with many females and that they respect you. Bring them here and I will ask you all this in their presence.

 

[CLUMSY]

Pretty much every country has its fair share of issues with treatment of minorities and colored people. Discrimination against black people also exists in Pakistan, quite noticeable too tbh. Though it didnt escalate to what happened in the US recently. Also women are also treated badly by many in the west, but never have i seen a woman in the west get her eyebrows shaven off and hair cut for not marrying her friends dad. Fucked up people exist everywhere

 

[LeGenD]

That's how feminazi is on the rise.

When men treat women wrong, women become rebellious.

As if men do not suffer at the hands of other men and women? It cut both ways but men are lacking brotherhood and do not push for societal reforms, many are content with simping for women and happy with crumbs thrown their way.

Women can band together and fight for their rights on the other hand. Women came up with patriarchy slogan to convince others that the system is designed to favor men (BS by the way), and it worked.

System is designed and shaped for politics and money flows, it does not work in the best interest of masses in many countries.

 

[Foinikas]

Should I post a photo of Taliban beating women in the street and write

"Is this how women are treated in Central-South Asia? :'( "

Or do you understand how idiotic this thread is?

 

[dbc]

Why don't we look into French statistics too ?

do you have trouble with reading and comprehension? When did I ever claim French women are treated like queens?

if its 28% then its better than USA

Quick Facts about Domestic Violence in the United States

More than 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced either physical violence, rape, or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.

www.planstreetinc.com

and France is not that better

Domestic violence cases jump 30% during lockdown in France

Those confined at home with abusive partners are at increased risk during the coronavirus pandemic.

www.euronews.com

such posts

Is this how women are treated in North America?

You in the West have enough of your own issues in the West... Don't talk to us about women's rights. We gave women their right. You have men stripping infront of children sickness!!

defence.pk

another person that can't read did I claim women are treated as queens in France or North America?

 

[Hack-Hook]

do you have trouble with reading and comprehension? When did I ever claim French women are treated like queens?


another person that can't read did I claim women are treated as queens in France or North America?

you implied that they are treated worse than the rest of the world in certain place and i pointed out that statistically they are treated better than average of the world including certain countries