Is there a 'Chinese privilege' in Singapore? | Street Talk

[Leishangthem]

Singapore broke off from Malaysia as a Chinese majority enclave during Tunku Abdul Rahman's (?) time, who was Malaysia's founding father. He was the first Chief Minister of the Federation of Malaya from 1955 to 1957.

That said, Singapore (ruled by ethnic Chinese) is a one party state essentially and tries to legitimize that by fostering western style equal rights for all citizens, i.e. Malaysians and Indian Tamils. But few Malaysians or Indians are in prominent places in Singapore Govt. anyhow.

Which is fine because a few hundred miles up the coast, Chinese have no place in Malaysian Govt. either (because Chinese are not Malay or "Bumiputra"). Govt, jobs in Malaysia are all reserved for Malays. Chinese run the industry and economy in Malaysia and for their contribution, Malaysia is such an advanced nation today. I wish we had Chinese folks in Bangladesh so we could have our country develop too. Maybe someday.

I know of one Indian ancestry Singaporean though, who is brilliant and I am a fan. Kishore Mahbubani.

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I was more interested in his opinion before he went to claim Indian ethnicity's excellence by highlighting Indians being most wealthy in the US in his book.He clearly don't get the reason behind has nothing to do with indian excellence on a comparative scale.

 

[Viet]

I was more interested in his opinion before he went to claim Indian ethnicity's excellence by highlighting Indians being most wealthy in the US in his book.

India is a country of extremes.
You have the most poorest on one corner, the most richest on the other.

 

[Song Hong]

India is a country of extremes.

A country that cannot even build toilets.

 

[serenity]

Singapore broke off from Malaysia as a Chinese majority enclave during Tunku Abdul Rahman's (?) time, who was Malaysia's founding father. He was the first Chief Minister of the Federation of Malaya from 1955 to 1957.

That said, Singapore (ruled by ethnic Chinese) is a one party state essentially and tries to legitimize that by fostering western style equal rights for all citizens, i.e. Malaysians and Indian Tamils. But few Malaysians or Indians are in prominent places in Singapore Govt. anyhow.

Which is fine because a few hundred miles up the coast, Chinese have no place in Malaysian Govt. either (because Chinese are not Malay or "Bumiputra"). Govt, jobs in Malaysia are all reserved for Malays. Chinese run the industry and economy in Malaysia and for their contribution, Malaysia is such an advanced nation today. I wish we had Chinese folks in Bangladesh so we could have our country develop too. Maybe someday.

I know of one Indian ancestry Singaporean though, who is brilliant and I am a fan. Kishore Mahbubani.

Kishore Mahbubani - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Kishore is one of those people who really understands the world and the unspoken stuff that is not popular among common people. He is a really fine mind. No wonder representative at UN head for some time.

Also honest and doesn't play stupid propaganda style games just says what he thinks and he is almost usually quite right in his views.

He is also pro Asian which is welcome. Doesn't matter if it is south asian or east asian or whatever. Just understands some ugly things about the reality of the world and peoples.

 

[Leishangthem]

India is a country of extremes.

There are extremes in all nation.

If low class uneducated people on the street pass these remarks, then only thing Govt. of Singapore can do is educate them about racial equality. It cannot muzzle them or stop them from passing hurtful comments by dictum or by passing laws. Although initial harsh penalties may work to set publicizing examples. But that is all GoS can do.

Comes with the territory I guess. My sincere best wishes to the brave couple above who decided to brave these tremendous odds for love. May their union and family live long and prosper. Things hopefully will change for the better.

Problem is far more acute in other homogenous countries, even Japan and Korea, though they are polite enough not to verbalize it (especially Japan). I myself know many Bangladeshi Guys married to Japanese, Korean, Thai, Malaysian, Indonesian and even Vietnamese women, though racial diversity problem in Bangladesh is not any less acute.

We don't have systemic racism in Bangladesh, though we have other issues. No one in Bangladesh would have problems with Singaporean or Vietnamese husband/wife, though it would be kind of an unusual culture shock initially. Bangladeshis take a lot of positive interest in foreign people generally.

We Asians need lessons on living in true racial harmony and need to appreciate each other's culture a lot more. No Asian has "incompatible" stamped on their forehead and no Asian should be perceived as such. If Asia needs to be as great as Europe, then it collectively and societally needs to reject these hackneyed racial stereotypes and accept 'differences in people' (appearances, culture, languages, skin tone) with open hearts and employ talents of each type of Asian, and not just from ASEAN region itself.

It is up to the new Y generation in Asia to uphold these open values, otherwise Asia as a collective entity cannot enjoy true greatness.

Even since medieval times,Europe has been united by common higher education & close intermarriage of the ruling class among themselves in Europe .
Asia is nothing like that,the closest common cultural influence is the Confucius influence in east Asia,which has its unique trait but East don't have the unity now due to western powers dividing it into camps.
Two out of 3 biggest economies in world are in asia-China & Japan. Asia,more like east asia is already greater than europe in almost every aspect.China is slightly behind on living standards but it's huge with 1.4b people.

Asia is just a nomenclature of continent,the population ,genetic trait and culture vastly differs, East Asia might have more affinity with Europe than with South Asia .

 

[Song Hong]

Meanwhile every now and then Malays are caught trying to kill Singaporeans. GoS never refer Malays as racists.

And now Malays really believe they are big victim of Chinese.

Meanwhile the Shia is Singapore will get shyt once Malay got power. Malays neva cease to go online and post hate speech against Malay Shia.

 

[Viet]

A country that cannot even build toilets.

ok hygiene is something to do with culture look at the Japanese they are so clean you can eat sushi on the asphalt.
But beware the smartest are coming.
here in Germany they pose a big threat. Instead of hiring a German or Viet engineer the companies hire five Indian engineers.

 

[Song Hong]

ok hygiene is something to do with culture look at the Japanese they are so clean you can eat sushi on the asphalt.
But beware the smartest are coming.
here in Germany they pose a big threat. Instead of hiring a German or Viet engineer the companies hire five Indian engineers.

I really love to stay in Vietnam. Never seen Hmong, Tay, Cham forever shout discrimination. Vietnam girls also very nice, very gentle. Nevertheless US is always trying to put victim hood into Hmong and Cham. Stir sht many times. GoS is like a sht stirrer now.

 

[Viet]

I really love to stay in Vietnam. Never seen Hmong, Tay, Cham forever shout discrimination. Vietnam girls also very nice, very gentle. Nevertheless US is always trying to put victim hood into Hmong and Cham. Stir sht many times. GoS is like a sht stirrer now.

You like Singapore bashing. I like the country. About chinese, chinese in Singapore is the opposite from chinese in Hongkong. The latter is rude. It’s all about culture.
When I am in HK I avoid to be recognized as Viet, but instead of chinese or japanese.
HKer see me a potential spy or refugee or criminal.

 

[Song Hong]

You like Singapore bashing. I like the country. About chinese, chinese in Singapore is the opposite from chinese in Hongkong. The latter is rude. It’s all about culture.
When I am in HK I avoid to be recognized as Viet, but instead of chinese or japanese.
HKer see me a potential spy or refugee or criminal.

Personally I would not like to stay in Germany. Vietnam is better, but salary too low.

 

[Nan Yang]

Nonsense
SG is the best example where different races live in harmony.
Landing at Singapore the first visible sign I see is cleanliness and different customs, immigration officers and servants from different colors. many of indian and malay ethnics.

I lived in Singapore when Devan Nair was the President of Singapore.
He could not get along with LKY.
According to him he resigned due to some medical issues which he kept secret.
But according to LKY he was forced to resign because he was an alcoholic.

Deven Nair is an Indian. LKY is Chinese. As a President, being an alcoholic is very shameful. LOL. What can go wrong ?

Then the Devan Nair jokes came. Fast and widespread.

Indians now hate Singaporean Chinese because of that. Even Malaysian Indians.

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[Song Hong]

Another thing that Malays and Indians keep quiet and stupid Chinese Singaporeans neva know is they hate one another MORE than Chinese.

The Hindu civilization hate Muslims a lot. Muslims are their no 1 sworn enemies and everyone still remembers 2 millions dies in the Indo pakistan partition. You try talk this to Hindus and sikh and see their face turn red,

Chinese in essence is their mediator. Nevertheless these shtty people like to stir a lot, and more unfortunately is that GoS is now stirring racial hatred against Chinese.

 

[MH.Yang]

You like Singapore bashing. I like the country. About chinese, chinese in Singapore is the opposite from chinese in Hongkong. The latter is rude. It’s all about culture.
When I am in HK I avoid to be recognized as Viet, but instead of chinese or japanese.
HKer see me a potential spy or refugee or criminal.

Nonsense, you are slandering the Chinese.
The Chinese have always been victims of racial discrimination, and we have no racial discrimination against anyone.

 

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Is there a 'Chinese privilege' in Singapore? | Street Talk

The Chinese seem to have never had a sense of privilege, but Singapore’s pursuit of Western multiculturalism and political correctness will have serious consequences.

 

[Song Hong]

After setting all the stage and political correctness for Chinese bashing, PM Lee Hsien Loong went on to deny any Chinese privilege. It is just crocodile tears, and attempts to white wash himself and confusion historians.

The PAP style works in this way. Media keep accusing Chinese or racists. Now the political correct narrative is Chinese are racists, Malays and Indians are victim. Then PAP big wig jump in and curse Chinese racism 99% of the time, punctuated by 1% occasional apologetics for Chinese.

Singapore elites are bringing the entire country to hell.

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