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RealClearPolitics - Are We Headed for a Fight with China?

SHANGHAI -- The Soviet Union is gone, al-Qaida is decimated, and Iran may never acquire nuclear weapons. But don't get too relaxed. If you're looking for reasons to be anxious about world peace, China offers an abundance.

It's a huge country with a growing economy, an expanding military and ongoing disputes with several neighbors. Nationalist sentiment has grown. China is a rising power, and history indicates that rising powers often assert themselves in ways that lead to bloodshed.

If you demand immediate evidence, look only to the South China Sea, where the Chinese are locked in an ominous standoff with the Philippines over fishing rights. The Obama administration recently underlined its worries by announcing it would deploy up to 2,500 Marines in Australia. As the longtime dominant nation in the Pacific, the United States has much to lose if China decides to mount a challenge.

Pessimism is a perfectly reasonable response to China's rise. It would not be surprising if it acts to become as dominant in its region as we are in ours. But in pondering the issue on a visit to China, I've found some reasons for hope as well. Tensions and disagreements may be inevitable, but military clashes and all-out war are not.

One encouraging fact is that the Chinese people are not naturally hostile to the United States. Shanghai pollster Victor Yuan told a group of journalists that included me, "Aside from politics, Chinese have a fully positive view of the United States."

American multinational corporations, he says, are regarded as good places to work. Western movies, music and consumer products are popular. Some 130,000 Chinese students are enrolled in the U.S.

It's true that, as Yuan says, the Chinese people rank the U.S. second among China's foes -- with first place going to Japan. But how much of this reflects Chinese belligerence and how much stems from our habit of invading other countries is hard to gauge.

In a candid, free-flowing session with a couple of dozen students at Peking University -- the country's most prestigious -- I asked if there are times when they feel angry toward the United States. Not one hand went up. Nor did any expect that America will help Taiwan break away from the mainland, which would undoubtedly be cause for war.

That consensus seems to be the prevailing view here. Yuan told us that 90 percent of Chinese expect the reunification with Taiwan to be accomplished peacefully.

Taiwan, which is part of China in theory but functionally independent, is the issue that could push the U.S. and China into a shooting war. But it always has been -- and the two sides have been able to keep it from mushrooming out of control. The Economist magazine reports that "relations across the strait have never been better."

Any assessment of the potential danger posed by China ought to incorporate its past behavior. MIT political scientist M. Taylor Fravel points out that since 1949, Beijing has settled 17 of its 23 territorial disputes. In most, it has offered significant compromises, "usually receiving less than 50 percent of the contested land."

"Over the past decade," he testified recently on Capitol Hill, "China has not used its armed forces to actively enforce its claims." Nor has it invented new claims to match its growing wealth and power.

Come to think of it, China hasn't fought a war since 1979. Its record is an encouraging contrast with that of the U.S., which has entered several wars of choice.


The Chinese have found that pushing their agenda can be counterproductive. When China acts assertively, its neighbors tend to seek safety in the arms of Uncle Sam. The Beijing government may have learned something from the experience of Germany -- which has gained a dominant role in Europe by being careful not to revive old fears.

China has followed that model in many respects, signing some 250 multilateral agreements, joining the World Trade Organization and taking part in United Nations peacekeeping operations. It's been generally supportive of international norms that mandate peaceful resolution of differences. It hasn't pursued drastic changes or used drastic measures.

That could change. Past results, we all know, are no guarantee of future performance. But peace has held so far, and it just might keep doing so.

From the Chicago Tribune.
 
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wishful thinking from Chinese neighbors?? :enjoy:

That's a pretty foolish wish. In a Sino-US war, neighboring countries are gonna be collateral damage, in the same way that Laos and Cambodia were collateral damage during the Vietnam war.
 
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Who writes such fantasy?

US and Chinese economies are intertwined beyond imagination. Destruction of one will be the destruction of the other.
 
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In American politics, there's always an imaginary enemy #1 and since the Soviet breakup China was chosen for the honor. That enemy can juice up nationalism and justifies defense spending. It's also good for election debates; who wants to listen to gloomy economic talks.

The medias.... well nothing sells better than the impending wars than the actual war itself. Does anyone know in the few years after 9/11, there are more articles written about China in American medias than OBL's Al-Qaeda and Iraq/Afghan wars combined. Lighter side of the news, I guess.
 
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In American politics, there's always an imaginary enemy #1 and since the Soviet breakup China was chosen for the honor. That enemy can juice up nationalism and justifies defense spending. It's also good for election debates; who wants to listen to gloomy economic talks.

The medias.... well nothing sells better than the impending wars than the actual war itself. Does anyone know in the few years after 9/11, there are more articles written about China in American medias than OBL's Al-Qaeda and Iraq/Afghan wars combined. Lighter side of the news, I guess.
You mean China does not do the same? Please show everyone how brainwashed and naive you really are.
 
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Kudos to the Chicago Tribune. Whoever wrote that has a very deep understanding of Chinese dynamics and understand the feelings of the Chinese people.

I just hope the Neocons in office don't hijack America's national agenda and try to foster dissent in China again. God knows the CIA is trying its best with the Dollar Lama and that joke of a leader Rebiya Kaboor.

There does not have to be war with America. However, the ball is in America's court at the moment, not China. America has to decide if the interest of the entire nation is worth more than the interests of their military industrial complex.
 
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You mean China does not do the same? Please show everyone how brainwashed and naive you really are.


I wonder how many of your 9,999 posts were wasted on belittling my country and my brothers. For your own sanity I hope you can stop here because the next post might be a curse for you.
 
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I wonder how many of your 9,999 posts were wasted on belittling my country and my brothers. For your own sanity I hope you can stop here because the next post might be a curse for you.
The article said China considers Japan to be enemy no. 1 and the US no. 2. Can you explain how is this NOT qualify as conjuring up an enemy to justify military spending, as you charged US?
 
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You mean China does not do the same? Please show everyone how brainwashed and naive you really are.

no we dont. now we can see the brainwashing part are devastating in usa when it continuously soaks up the fabrics of weak alien immigrants from places like vietnam

The article said China considers Japan to be enemy no. 1 and the US no. 2. Can you explain how is this NOT qualify as conjuring up an enemy to justify military spending, as you charged US?

we dont intitiate attacks. we dont invite a country's opposing orgs for any political fanfare. just to name 2.
 
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no we dont. now we can see the brainwashing part are devastating in usa when it continuously soak up the fabrics of weak alien immigrants from places like vietnam
And also from China. :lol: I work with a lot of Chinese immigrants, from Production to Engineering to Administration.
 
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I wonder how many of your 9,999 posts were wasted on belittling my country and my brothers. For your own sanity I hope you can stop here because the next post might be a curse for you.

Support, Bro!

And also from China. :lol: I work with a lot of Chinese immigrants, from Production to Engineering to Administration.

most of our countymen do not demonstrate the same kind of trait as you do! having the country that has massacred your own people and intoxicated millions and still its immigrants are treating it as lady gaga 24/7 and intensly blasting another country for any cause!
 
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The article said China considers Japan to be enemy no. 1 and the US no. 2. Can you explain how is this NOT qualify as conjuring up an enemy to justify military spending, as you charged US?


Oh my! You wast your landmark post on little me.

On topic. The article is a typical propaganda. China does not look at anyone as enemy. Her defense spending are in line for a country that has expanding trading routes, and in fact is considered low because her military hardware are considered outdated and not up to modern standards.

Even though she treats no one as an enemy but she knows there exist one that's trying to contain her to perform good for her citizens and thus such defensive deterrence are needed. She can never counter the spending of such country so forget about the enemy part.
 
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